Best advice for Harry going forward?

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I have all the same initial reactions as many others on MN regarding Harry i.e. whiner, grifter, stupid, entitled etc and it's easy to dole out the criticism.

However while I wouldn't say I have sympathy for him, as so much of his situation is of his own making, I actually do have some underlying feelings of concern for him and his future (and children).

He reminds me an awful lot of a relative of mine who is neurodiverse with a mild learning disability and a tendency to be self-absorbed with an overdeveloped victim complex - always lashing out, blaming others, seeing conspiracy where there is none etc.

Harry is clearly a damaged man, with childhood trauma and issues which continue to plague his mental health.
As with my relative, he has grown up with a support network which has probably quietly managed and enabled his passage through life, but when big outbursts happen (as have happened in our family too) everyone backs off and 'grey rocks' him until he has calmed down. Some people just give up, too exhausted by the constant drama of it all.

Thats a very good point.

I think he’s suggestible & from his account in Spare it was Meghan who altered him to her presence & influence apparently beyond the grave. Didn’t see him referencing much with Chelsy etc.

Yes he thinks it's still the 1990s!

@Orangemintcream An accurate summary, imo. He does have delusions of grandeur in that he refuses to accept that no longer being a working Royal means that he’ll no longer receive the security and the various perks of the job.

Here in the US, my son (16) has met a prince through sports and although everyone knows that he’s a prince, he doesn’t receive special treatment, he’s just another teenager playing on the team. PH wanted to live a normal life too and wanted his children to do the same- why doesn’t he just get on with it?!

His brother, who went through she same trauma, has made different life choices and that’s fine too. PH needs to start behaving like the middle-aged adult that he is.

I agree. Meghan knew/knows exactly which buttons to press with Harry! I find her efforts to emulate Diana, even copying her outfits and poses, in very poor taste. It's sad and rather pathetic that this very blatant manipulation seems to have worked a treat on Harry.

Can you imagine if W & K spotted all this & were powerless? The graveside channelling perhaps the most disturbing & the kids apparently drawn to Diana ‘signs’ in ordinary paintings etc. It really did feel Hitchcockesque in Spare almost steps away from Mrs Danvers ‘she’s here, she wants you to leave, your father is evil & owes you’…

@CoffeeCantata Mrs. Danvers - excellent analogy!

To be fair to M not graveside channeling but time alone at grave ‘eyes shut, palms down.. said she was praying for clarity & guidance’. Oddly H had asked for just the same quietly in his head. How did Meghan know?

To add the fact Meghan can read H’s mind is very interesting. It points to clever, studied psychology on her part, very Derren Brown. A smart way to
manipulate others? Either that or the supernatural really at work…

I read on Reddit that her first husband said she had a "vision board" with a photo of Harry on it. Years before she met Harry, and contradicting her later statements that she knew hardly anything about the royal family.

Apparently she was referencing Catherine and the wedding to William on her Tig blog too, again in the same period of her pre-Harry life when she now claims to have been largely unaware of British royalty.

The ‘science’ of manifestation etc…I’d heard this, I hadn’t realised H thinks she can accurately read his mind & somehow his mother is also intermittently the channel. That’s next level.

PH wanted to live a normal life too and wanted his children to do the same

And yet he named his daughter Lilibet and lumbered them both with royal titles - which will be of no use whatever in the US.

Didn't Diana's mother leave/lose custody of her children? I'm sure M has made this simlarity to her life known to H. In fact quite of lot of absent/distant mothers. KC as well (QE2 lived in Malta/long royal tours/nannies/boarding schools).

Anyone else cringe when they hear "Princess Lilibet?"
I seem to recall they said she would be known as Lili (which I like) but the media are determined to keep using the full name - presumably to remind us all why we're pissed off about it.

I see Gwyneth Paltrow is interviewing a great British entrepreneur/ founder Emma Grede on her Goop podcast. Am I wrong in thinking she may be throwing a little bit more shade in Meghans direction. Showing her how to do it more professionally?

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Exactly! I have used this same photo on other fora re Meghan.

Once you see it you can't unsee it.

"The media" use it because it is that child's given name. The responsibility for her being called Princess Lilibet Diana rests solely with Harry and Meghan.
Why does "the media" get blamed for every choice this couple make?
Them or the RF.

I totally agree @MayaKovskaya . They constantly do this, as do their supporters. They put stuff out there about their lives via one of their many media vehicles (both direct and as sources) and then claim victimhood when the media and the public talk about it.

Every time I see the name Lillibet, I just think what a pair of cheeky fucking stalkers they are. So greedy they even stole a pet name from a woman they hurt badly, and whose legacy they continue to shit all over.

Yeah I agree. The hypocrisy of using the late Queen's pet name, used only by Philip and Margaret and a precious few close friends. To do that and trash what that woman's legacy was? Absolutely vile.
Yet here we are again; oh, it's the media's fault for using the given name of their daughter!!!

It is deeply crass. That nickname was one of the last remnants of who the elate queen was in private. To use it for harry's daughter is to tear away the final layer of privacy she had left.

And why did they not name her after Doria? The only relative they are still in touch with? At least for a middle name? I wonder why they didn't chose Elizabeth? Much more classy and could have been nn lili or indeed lilibet.

I fear Trump will soon if not already see Harry as a loser - Harry has nothing to offer Transactional Trump (unlike his family in the UK)

He’s rapidly losing social capital - if indeed any left at all.

Or Lily? Beth? Eliza?
No. That was very deliberate.

I agree. All those suggestions are way above his ability and drive.