Best advice for Harry going forward?

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I have all the same initial reactions as many others on MN regarding Harry i.e. whiner, grifter, stupid, entitled etc and it's easy to dole out the criticism.

However while I wouldn't say I have sympathy for him, as so much of his situation is of his own making, I actually do have some underlying feelings of concern for him and his future (and children).

He reminds me an awful lot of a relative of mine who is neurodiverse with a mild learning disability and a tendency to be self-absorbed with an overdeveloped victim complex - always lashing out, blaming others, seeing conspiracy where there is none etc.

Harry is clearly a damaged man, with childhood trauma and issues which continue to plague his mental health.
As with my relative, he has grown up with a support network which has probably quietly managed and enabled his passage through life, but when big outbursts happen (as have happened in our family too) everyone backs off and 'grey rocks' him until he has calmed down. Some people just give up, too exhausted by the constant drama of it all.

No one looks at Jason Statham & thinks ‘urgh’ I don’t get this male (?) obsession with hair?

It wasn't WLM related as such. MM was in her own kitchen making some dessert she has named after Lily. She asked her mum to taste it and confirm that it tasted nice. One of her instagram missives that have become so frequent.

Oi, hands off Michael Kitchen, he's spoken for!!!

This is all because of how unpleasant Harry was about William going bald. People are just responding to his nastiness, really.

And it’s the clearly useless attempts at hair transplants. I read that when actual hair transplants fail, the next port of call is, er, pubic hair. 🤢

Oh dear lord, please don't give him ideas for Spare 2 🤮

The thing is that for Harry his mother was killed in a car crash led by paparazzi, and he's done two tours of Afghanistan.

He's not an alcoholic, he doesn't have drug addiction, but probably has ptsd. When the worst imaginable thing has happened, you know it can happen.

Understandably he thought people cared - wouldn't you if you saw the level of public upset when Diana died? The flowers? Does anyone remember - there had never been anything like it. So, you have to die for people to care 😂

Yes he needs to move on from the past - instead he is stuck in a loop.

In reality all he needs to do is to accept that there are people that view the world in an opposing way to him and with whom there is no chance of changing their mind as much as he would wish for it.
Accept that truth is relative - increasingly this is what we are coming to know in modern society - even scientific understandings get overturned.

He's not going to move on, @GreenFressia , because where he is now makes them loads of money and keeps them in the headlines.
Neither of them are going to change that.

Oi , @RandyRedHumpback outside . I might be knocking on a bit and short on height but be very afraid 😂Join the queue 🕵

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I would agree he is stuck in a loop. I remember the flowers , I think some were meant in a heartfelt way but it was also a bit touristy. It does not take away from a relatively young woman losing her life though & my goodness she was popular.

Some truths are relative to the person who remembers them ( so "my truth" ) Some truths are fact. I do think Harry from what he has said tends to the former and ignores the second. Some truths are just true because they are fact. Of course some science gets overturned , but equally there are often two opinions in eg medicine which run together but rigorous scrutiny will point out which is true. Diana's death much more so than Harry's security case have been scrutinised to the nth degree. Sometimes the best evidence is against you & I don't think Harry quite likes his world view being disagreed with. I think he is much more about his truth than "the truth" . & I am increasingly , I have to admit , a bit sorry for him in that he can't come to an acceptance which might make him much happier. But that's an opinion ( not fact 😊)

Many of us on here have lost a parent tragically, and over the years we've coped with the loss and buried the grief (always there, but only brought out occasionally to be examined and then put back). Would it have made my grief harder to deal with if my father had been public property and I'd had to share my tragedy with the world? Is this what makes it so hard for Harry to deal with Diana's death and let go? I've no idea but I think I would be very upset to have his name and picture constantly popping up in the media making me share the loss all over again. Hmmm 🤔

@Lifestooshort71 - that's a thoughtful post. Sorry about your father 💐. I am sure Diana being so very famous when she died made it more horrid for him ( and to be fair for William as well) But - and I may be wrong here - over time Diana does not appear in the newspapers on a regular basis , H brings her up more than the press do - I think - & do anyone tell me if I am wrong. Yes there are those silly outfit filling a gap on a slow new day things with a sweet nod to Diana , but honestly I don't see a lot about her written. So I can see her fame was another thing to deal with at the time , but since then I am not sure she is a constant reminder - in the press. Of course , how Harry remembers his mother is completely different. But & I know people have said before William was only two years older. But taller so not sure he got the sympathy ( wrongly in my view) in the same way.

Doria is absolutely lovely looking. I don't have anything to add on the other points, but whenever I see her I'm always struck by how elegantly pretty she is.

I think she's one of these women that's comfortable in her own skin. She keeps it all natural. She's very attractive.

Doria is absolutely lovely looking. I don't have anything to add on the other points, but whenever I see her I'm always struck by how elegantly pretty she is.

She got it absolutely right at H&M's wedding. Cool, elegant, unfussy. Her outfit was Oscar de la Renta, who I think Meghan has used, so I suppose she went there at M's suggestion.

I think he should live quietly in California. Other people manage it. So basically, go away and shut up!

For these reasons I think most people did have a lot of sympathy for him.

But there is a limit and this is a man who has publicly trashed his family and “recollections may vary” and then done nothing but whine about it ever since. He’s shown himself to be one of the most self absorbed selfish individuals on earth.

He has done nothing proactive - no therapy, nothing other than facilitate his wife’s grifting.

Every time he opens his mouth it makes him look worse and worse. His recent comments that he has “forgiven them” were unbelievable. Really really bad.

Given his status I find it hard to believe he has no one advising him, which means he is not taking advice - at all.

I have actually wondered if he has some sort of personality disorder - he seems to truly believe he has been personally wronged in so many ways. And his trauma at an early age …

But then given he is royal I suppose delusions of grandeur aren’t exactly delusions which would make a diagnosis a bit tricky ! Not that he would listen.

I don’t dislike the fact that he’s going bald (besides his awful comments about William’s hair 🙄), it’s that the remaining hair is so unkempt looking, it really looks like it hasn’t been washed for years and smells foul. It looks like a self-cut too! He should spend more time paying attention to his grooming, he is a millionaire after all…

He seems to think his tragedy trumps all. My husband lost his father young, in very sudden and shocking circumstances. My cousins lost their dad in a car accident while they were still in primary school. My childhood friend was only 15 when she found her mother dead in bed of heart failure. I could give more examples, some even more tragic but I dont want to be too morbid. None of these people had millions to make their lives easier, far from it.

I find Harry contemptible. Think of the good works he could've done if he'd chosen to help bereaved children, particularly those who are bereaved and in poverty. How anyone can have any sympathy left for someone like him is beyond me.

Those pictures are sad because you just know she doesn't smile at her mother like that off camera, it's all performative. I imagine she only regards her mother in terms of how useful she is to her.

So many people ( including Harry) seem to forget that William was only 2 years older when Diana died . He was also devastated and traumatised yet Harry and some others make out that H’s trauma is the worst and he should never have walked behind his mothers coffin but can you imagine the tantrums if he hadn’t been allowed ?

I'm short, have a bad back and grey hair, but I have a big handbag! But violence is never the answer. I might agree to a timeshare.

I think the world had moved on from Diana quite significantly until Harry started invoking her with regards to his wife at any given opportunity.