Why is Sarah Ferguson at the Easter service?

[Lazycatsitsonthemat]

I am really perplexed about why SF attends all Royal events since the death of the Queen when Andrew
is present. She behaves like his wife but she isn’t his wife. What on earth is going on? I cannot think of another situation like this where an ex wife lives with her ex husband and attends all public events with him as though they are still married. It’s bizarre.

Have just read the latest Chat GPT in style of Spare chronicling the duck saga and the missing heir/heir missing his faith on the other thread @PrettyFlyforaMaiTai 😂

Also no obvious police/security in attendance to keep the crowds in some sort of order

Nobody's suggesting someone would want to shoot them, but all it would have taken is one idiot to fancy a selfie for them to be completely mobbed - and let's face it, some of these types who hang around for hours to catch the merest glimpse don't always seem the brightest lamps on the street

It’s not a bias. It’s an opinion. Are you biased or opinionated? Your bias shows calling others biased.

Does that mean your bias calling my bias is showing your bias?

Very good. I’m saying I find it strange that people that disagree with you are biased, whereas presumably people who agree with you have an opinion. I don’t have a bias, I have no skin in the game. I have an opinion, much like you do. It’s revealing that you call us biased though.

I think this is such an important point - if not an argument against monarchy, it is at least an argument against an established church.

Much of the speculation on the thread has surrounded the Prince of Wales potentially having no faith. It would also be a very difficult position for a man of strong faith who fundamentally disagreed with some of the Church of England's teachings.

I don’t have a bias, I have no skin in the game. I have an opinion, much like you do. It’s revealing that you call us biased though.

No bias. No skin in the game.
So who's "us"?
You don't sound like you think you're part of a particular group.

Nah, it’s just bias when you (not you personally) are having a pile on on someone you don’t like and changing the goal posts (like others on here have been doing).

People are entitled to call William out if they think he is lazy etc. But on this occasion, they were wrong about the church thing and some people can’t admit when they’re wrong.

Genuinely this is the one thing that makes me rethink my views on monarchy.

You cannot force someone to follow a specific faith. How can the King be Head of the Church of England if he does not believe in God/Christianity/Protestantism (not just William or Charles, literally any future King).

What if George wants to convert to Catholicism? I think there should be a separation of Church and Monarchy before this issue actually does arise and causes a problem. Imagine the optics if a big company fired the boss because he was Catholic or Muslim. It’s discrimination.

Let not even get into being forced to forfeit your place in the line of succession for being a Catholic.

I think I’m part of the cohort on here that thinks William is lazy. I suppose that’s my “us”. I don’t care that he didn’t go to church with his father, but I’m glad he went at all given his position. Not sure what your points are.

Agree with this. No one should be forced to follow a particular faith. There should be a separation of state and church.

Yes it was Henry VIII who made himself the head of the Christian church in England because the Pope wouldn’t allow him to divorce Catherine of Aragon @Tbrh
It was all a bit silly but the effects were far from silly.

The repression of Irish Catholics in their own country for one.
Penal Laws anyone.
The appalling atrocities on both sides when different monarchs on different sides of the religious divide took over power in Britain.

William and family were at a church service yesterday at Sandringham apparently but I think William will relinquish his claim to be head of the Church of England.

@FuturehappinessDo you mean lack of freedom in terms of religion? In which case I agree with you-although generally people
do tend to choose the religion-if they choose one at all-that their parents followed. And in any case, many members of the Church of England are only following it as a matter of form “The Tory Party at prayer”
But if you’re talking about freedom generally, then he does seem to be able to do practically anything he wants to-what do you think he hasn’t got the freedom to do?

seeing that photo, no wonder they left by the back door, imagine taking your children into that.

I count myself as a Christian and am a regular church goer; I don't mind too much whether the monarch is head of the Church of England or not.
I appreciate that Charles' faith seems important to him and that he's also interested in other faiths (so am I).
While he's on course for becoming the head of the C of E, I think William should continue to attend church, at least on important dates, which he does/has.
He's also had his children Christened and I guess he'll have them confirmed.
If he decides he doesn't believe in the Christian faith, it's better if he says so and steps away from his religious role.
You don't have to be a Christian to do good.

I doubt many people in the UK would be that bothered. I'm surprised that so many people on MN suddenly appear so concerned about the church but I accept the small group on the RF threads (myself included) are hardly representative.

Yes, very different from the crowd control at Windsor and at Sandringham at Christmas.

Where is Holy Willie ( Burns style) when you need him? Never mind there are plenty of Holy Williaminas on here!

You don't know that they " pretend" though do you? You are speculating ...

You are fueling this discussion about POW. Every time it dies down ( which it likely would have completely after it became clear he did go) you leap in again with “ humble pie” or “ I love how this thread has changed ( and it hadn’t really; it’s about Royals attending Easter Service) to “ bash” William.”
Saying that it is good optics for the heir to the throne to attend Easter Service in a country where the Monarch is Defender of the Faith is hardly bashing or anti-RF or any of these other weird claims - especially as a) he DID go and b) he normally has, as did the King as POW. It is for that reason people were taken aback when it was suggested he didn’t go at all. It was early on suggested he possibly went elsewhere. In fact people caring about it is more an assertion of the fact they have a role there that some ( not all, but some) value.

There are weird attempts to twist on this thread. Your posts are seeming determined on whipping up controversy. Are you actually anti- POW? Because that’s how it’s starting to come across.

Exactly.

Exactly! I am not the slightest bit 'outraged', I haven't been so on this thread at all. Yet having a different opinion and saying that I thought William should've been at the Easter sunday service is apparently 'outrage'. And I should stick my head in a huge plateful of humble pie and choke on it!

I could be outraged at all sorts of stuff... William not attending with his Dad at Windsor ain't one of them! And when I heard he went to another service, I just said that is good to hear. No 'outrage' there.

Those that bang on about 'outrage', to me, are the ones outraged that anyone dare not agree with them!
It is very peculiar!

I thought William had said he has no faith? I phrased it badly though, sorry. They either have to have faith or pretend they do.

I think some posters are trying to impute their own feelings to others, in the hope they can make them say what they really think themselves - which is why your responses have been “given a coat of gloss.”

I think that’s a bit of a stretch 🤣

Do you just.