Why is Sarah Ferguson at the Easter service?

[Lazycatsitsonthemat]

I am really perplexed about why SF attends all Royal events since the death of the Queen when Andrew
is present. She behaves like his wife but she isn’t his wife. What on earth is going on? I cannot think of another situation like this where an ex wife lives with her ex husband and attends all public events with him as though they are still married. It’s bizarre.

Oh look moving goalposts, again.

William is terrible because he didn't go to church on Easter Sunday.

(It emerges he went privately)

William is terrible because there are no photographs to prove he goes to church frequently.

I'm not sure this latest stick to bash the Wales family is going to be sustainable but it is always interesting to see new negative talking points being circulated.

Struggling with the Church of England isn't evidence of having no faith. It's evidence of having questions about the institution which is very different.

Absolutely

Said this on another thread about Kate & I know this is about Sarah Ferguson but as this thread has mentioned the Waleses a bit:-

God the smearing of the Waleses would turn me away from ever being a republican & im not a royalist. It’s getting exhausting which I suspect is the point.
Why on earth would we want more instability in the U.K. by getting rid of a constitutional monarchy where parliament is sovereign? I’m beginning to suspect ulterior motives. I’ll probably be deleted but it’s getting ridiculous.

I agree but I also find the emergence of new talking points a fascinating study in social media narratives. It reminds me of the way advertisers shift ground to sell you things like washing powder, they have to keep inventing things that might be wrong with your laundry so you buy their new, more expensive, product.

The Wales family are consistently among the most popular royals and the quest to find a negative narrative that will change that is interesting to watch. I'm not saying everyone posting the new talking point is part of a conspiracy against them. That's mad. But watching a new theme spread out of no where indicates that somewhere these talking points are being thought up and then seeded through social media to be picked up by those who are already not keen.

And that is why the Monarchy is going nowhere and I have no idea why you think otherwise. People in the UK are allowed to discuss the monarchy, the heir, the wider family, what we actually think of their actions, what we would like to be different, without being labelled as a russian bot

Why can't we discuss our Monarchy? This country does have free speech.

Wow that's quite the leap! Do you also think this about Meghan Markle, because while I'm not a fan, there is definitely something fishy with the "PR" she gets, particularly all the hate on here.

I didn’t say a Russian bot? I said ulterior motives and I should imagine most people are genuine in discussing the monarchy but beginning to suspect not all are. I’ve said elsewhere that I’m not against a republic if it can be properly thought out but after Brexit I’d be wary of change. So I’m part of the issue myself!

I think it happens with everyone in the public eye. It's just not usually as easy to spot as it is in this case. The 'William should go to church' narrative is new for this Easter, popped up out of no where and suddenly on every thread.

I'll think of an example for Meghan but, as I say, it's not usually as easy to spot because usually they are seeded more carefully.

Could you please explain what the ulterior motives are?

I have no idea what that can be.

I don't disagree with you at all re the benefits of a constitutional monarchy. I think people do take offence though at someone taking money and not doing much for it, especially when most face challenges with the CoL. The Queen worked hard, as do most of her children so I don't think this was ever questioned (although I may be too young to know this). But when the future King doesn't appear to be doing much, it's good for people to question that. The late Queen and her father, no doubt those before them knew that it was important to be needed, and wanted by their 'subjects'.

Oh I see. I have often seen comments about William being workshy, but am always shocked at the hate towards H&M as it can only be described as hate, and seems to be at least a new thread weekly. I don't frequent this board, only see what pops up on active.

Wow! So if you don't see photos of W walking into a church, then you are assuming he has no religious feelings? Would you be happy if he went to church very publicly every Sunday and ran the 21st century equivalent of the Hellfire Club in his spare time?

The founders of the US believed in the separation of church and state. Washington was a semi-regular churchgoer:

https://www.mountvernon.org/george-washington/religion/george-washington-and-religion#:~:text=Over%20the%20course%20of%20his,averaging%20about%20once%20a%20month.

I don’t know. Destabilising the U.K., is there a pattern? After Brexit I’m more wary I suppose. (And the comments I got when going to get my EU citizenship and passport which I was fully entitled to & that was definitely anti uk).

And the changing of narrative about this particular one of William not attending church, he did and then the narrative changed to well he should have met well wishers. Don’t know just seemed a bit off to me. Or I’m seeing stuff that isn’t there <shrug>.

Yes there is an ongoing narrative that William is lazy, which I'm a bit on the fence about. Yes there is plenty of negative stuff about Harry and Meghan too. These though are established and tend to be repetitive. The church going demand was new.

There is a new story about Meghan and a gardener but I am not sure if that is new or just new to mumsnet. The whole thing is interesting in terms of what gets traction, what spreads between social media and what the tabloids pick up. I do feel sorry for the humans in the centre though.

On the meeting will wishers thing. Wouldn't that be seen as taking the attention from the royal Easter service in Windsor? That's the one where a walkabout is expected at Easter.

I have no idea! I can only speak for myself. I originally said it was wrong for William not to attend the Easter church service and it would have been good if he could have been there to support his 76 year old father who is suffering from cancer. United front and all that. Good optics etc.

Then I hear he went local, and I said good I am glad to hear that, he really should go to church on Easter Sunday given his position as heir. That's it, quite simple!
However there are certain posters on here who were screeching eat humble pie! You've got egg on your face, I bet you feel stupid now! Like some sort of weird gotcha.

No destabilising from me, I comment as I see it. I'm a simple creature 😂

Oh really? That's hilarious 😆 Well I guess the Royals always sell papers so the tabliods certainly will want to ensure they remain in the spotlight! 😉

I suppose it’s rare for someone to actually admit to / ask for utter hypocrisy in their church leaders rather than pretending it’s not the case.

One of the few things I have any sympathy with the RF about is this ridiculous requirement for them to pretend to be Christian

I think I Read somewhere her and Andrew are back together

The one thing I will say about them is... they are very well suited and deserve each other. They have both made a huge amount of money from being part of the royal family, they are two peas in a pod. And who else will call Andrew a rock, the most principled man they know, and a giant of a man.

He needs her to come out with this guff!

I love how this thread went from discussing Fergie attending Easter service when she isn’t a royal or officially a part of the family any more.

To outrage that William isn’t attending the public Royal Easter service.

To outrage that William isn’t attending church at all considering he will one day be Head of the Church of England.

To outrage that William is prioritising his (recovering) wife and kids over his father.

To outrage that William did actually attend but it ‘suspiciously’ got leaked as he is PR conscious.

To outrage that Williami doesnt attend church regularly (as far as they are aware)

And I got accused of tying myself in knots trying to defend him (or you know, thinking logically that he will probably be attending a local church with his kids and wife). Some people are very determined to shit on William and they are making their biases very well known 🤣🤭

You forgot “Well ok he did attend church but he should have met with the well-wishers.”

Followed by “Well if the 150 people were too much for a walk about without requisite security, then the Wales’ should have sent a message to the crowd explaining why they left through the back door”

These were on the I’m glad Kate is better but… thread.

Yup.

It reminds me of the ‘Where is Kate’ threads. And some people had the audacity to say it was her own fault and she created the media storm by not disclosing her private medical details.

People really do have short memories.