Harry and RAVEC #2

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You're right, @elessar . He only has to look at Anne and Edward - no security unless they're doing official duties. He obviously thinks he's more important than them, though.

Other countries give him security?

Would that be Ukraine, an actual war zone?
Colombia, with the high risk of kidnap for ransom?

Security provided in circumstances where it is necessary, exactly what RAVEC is already providing for him here.

Even his own arguments and statements support what RAVEC is providing.

Well he has been serving the public for 35 years and is still in public service doncha know. Next to Harry, Anne and Edward and the Duke of Kent and Gloucester are public service novices.

He needs to find a way to monetise the extreme responses he and Megan trigger in online forums, that seems to be their unique selling point.

He should monetise the panto characters.

I'd love to put him alone in a room with Anne 😂

I would like to put him in the room with anyone who could reach him. I do feel extremely sorry for him because he is obviously really unhappy and needs help. I know it is all the result of his own actions but in a human level it is hard to watch him repeatedly blowing up his family relationships.

He's not even the spare anymore. He hasn't been the spare for 10 years, since Charlotte was born. And that's part of the problem. As the spare, there is a chance you will sit in the big seat one day. He's far less important than he was when he was the spare and he can't cope with that.

Yes, and years of therapy haven't helped.

He's just not dealing with it.

Embarrassed perhaps, Mylovelygreendress?

There's actually no need because we all make mistakes, but it can't be easy to have thrown quite so much support behind them, only to be made a fool of by the couples' own words and actions

It's not even as if we can blame the media for much of what's happening now; it's pure H&M, and naturally people are going to notice

I do find it fascinating that you can counter nearly everything Harry says from his own words. That is some advanced level cognitive dissonance he has going.

I think this might be the crux of it. He is desperate to have the security for his commercial/charity ventures, but as we saw with the whole Sentebale polo/NF debacle, if you add in a commercial element it changes the whole situation. He doesn't get that. The commercial enterprise is the one needing to sort the security. He doesn't understand the real world.

It is absolutely right that when Taylor Swift was in the UK she received upgraded security based on the terrorist risk. Harry's sense of risk is based entirely on feelings not actual threat.

There was a serious terrorist threat against Taylor Swift, so the security services rightly put in protection. Harry seems to be unable to work out the basics.

Im starting to think that maybe meghan is holding the security thing over his head as a reason to not bring the kids. And now he's lost so they can't possibly go because it's just not safe. And harry becomes even more isolated from everyone, if that's even possible

I actually laughed out loud when I read him describ RAVEC as "secretive" like it was a bad thing. Surely if you are a committee dealing with high profile people, secretive is imperative. Given Harry's loose lips, sharing this knowledge with him would be an extremely foolish thing to do.

Do you not subscribe to RAVEC Weekly , a fascinating read , available in all good newsagents!

I've always thought this, especially when Harry's said that he told her their security would remain unchanged

The only difference is that I don't believe she'll ever let the kids visit the UK - at least not on their own with their dad - and therefore giving them 24/7/365 security may have revealed other problems rather closer to home

Yep, I'm sure a lot of RAVEC stuff will be "need to know", a concept Harry must be familiar with if he paid any attention at all to any security training he had whilst in HM Forces.....

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Aahh, I think I can see where there might be a problem.

She was never going to let them visit, but this case gave harry the hope that maybe she would. She knew full well what would happen but even if he had won I'm sure it still wouldn't be safe for whatever reason. Add it to the the long list of how harry is an idiot

He's completely isolated now. Fool.

Harry kept saying yesterday that he has the highest risk assessment in the family, that only the Queen was close.

Meanwhile, in the judgment that actually went through the facts, the Chair of Ravec said that a threat assessment were extremely sensitive” and would not ordinarily be disclosed, not even to the people they were about. It seems highly unlikely then that there would be chatter about where people ranked on the threat scale!

This was the problem.

It's well known that Harry left camp during mandatory drug testing which an offence. We don't know what other things were waved for him.

I strongly suspect it is a significant part of the problem

I don't see any evidence that Meghan is behind this. To me it is clear that this is about Harry, his trauma and paranoia. Meghan may not be keen to come here but I think that is a separate issue. The Harry in that interview and statement wouldn't let his children come here regardless of what his wife thought.

He was indulged over and over again to try to compensate for his loss of his mother (who happily waved him.off to boarding school and expected him to accept her most recent lover).

Now the rubber has hit the road and he is accountable for his actions.