Harry and RAVEC #2

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Because he faces no conscience as he is one of the most privileged people in the world.

Plus, he is as thick as mince.

My summary:

Suck it up, you entitled whining cunt. Please stay in California. Thanks.

It's the same room as the Jane Pauley interview took place

He is absolutely deluded. How can he expect reconciliation with his family is he will only listen to his own truth.

This pair of grifter need to be stripped of their royal titles now. They don’t understand key words like loyalty and service and so they don’t belong in our royal family anymore.

Get thee gone Hal and don’t come back.

This is insane, he believes, or wants the world to believe, his father has colluded with the British government to expose him and his family to mortal danger, and in the same breath he says he wants reconciliation, he is crazy.

So much for the honeymoon period Meghan is claiming, seems like it’s a honeymoon for one.

Can you imagine living with him? He's so bitter and resentful. That interview was so contradictory and petulant, it was indicative of a man so clearly used to getting his own way, he can't cope when he doesn't.

I've just posted this on another thread, I would love it if he could list all the occasions he wanted to bring Meghan and the kids back to the UK but couldn't due to the lack of security

Dear oh dear Harry. I feel really sorry for the king and William et al having to put up with this whiney brat.

If Harry was expecting an outpouring of worldwide sympathy after his latest tantrum it really does seem to be having the complete opposite affect.

Agree!

he is deluded

How come they were fine coming to the U.K. before the Queen died but suddenly it is dangerous now his dad is on the throne. What changed?

Or it is that he’s a bit an afraid of his family now that he’s aired everyone’s dirty laundry and he trying to force them into giving him what he wants.

I'm astonished that Harry can sit there and say all these things, can he not see how much damage he and Meghan have done (rhetorical question) the awful lies in the Oprah interview, the very personal things he wrote about in Spare (I'd be furious if my sibling described my private parts in a book for 1,000s of people to read) . His level of delusion is astounding, how can he see what he's done so differently from everyone else?
It's like 1,000 people watching Cinderella 999 all see it as a love story and 1 as a horror movie.

If Harry and Meghan had managed to create that billion$ brand they were predicted to become, Harry would have a different outlook, he would be gloating instead of complaining or trying to blackmail his family and the government on BBC.

Everything they have touched is a failure, Harry’s charitiy patronages are in turmoil, Invictus has lost all credibility. Their so called philanthropy is in the toilet, with no traction at all. Meghans Netflix series is rubbish and she only got the opportunity by using their contacts in high places, the two podcasts are also rubbish and have failed miserably. She is back being an influencer, albeit with a higher profile than her previous influencing, and even that is a failure as she has had to succumb to using her kids to garner interest.

Now Harry is back to square one, slating his father and his family in a TV interview.

Such losers.

I think you're right @Thedom and I suspect all this pettiness and spitefulness has It's roots in his own failures. He's not self reflective, as we know, he always looks to blame others, to make wild conflicting claims and to lash out. As the judge said, his grounds for challenge were based on "a sense of grievance", which isn't grounds at all. So now, it's confirmed that he's not an IPP, not the same level as KC, the PoW or the Obamas, and that's tough for him to deal with.

To be fair he’s been serving up entertainment for much of it. Buggered if I can work out what that service amounted to otherwise.

Talk about an inflated sense of yourself!

It's all about the audience, isn't it? The NY Times audience was American, the BBC interview, British. He just says whatever he thinks the given audience wants to hear.

However, as someone who lived in the US for a number of years, I would be very surprised indeed if there weren't things about the UK that Harry misses. The UK is his home and he lived here and nowhere else until 2020. California is LOVELY and where he lives is particularly lovely, but everything is modern and shiny and new and bland. I bet he misses home a lot.

I wonder if one of the problems is that he thought he was an IPP? It would be an understandable mistake to make in his circumstances. This all seems to stem from his misunderstanding of his status as a working royal and his mental struggle with being the spare. Add that to his need to rescue Diana and i can understand why he is so emotional about this. But his feelings aren't facts and the law and RAVEC work on facts.

Harry is not entitled to security now, he would have known that before he separated from royal duties. This isn’t a family matter it’s a state matter and Charles would be in the wrong if he intervened. We as taxpayers absolutely should NOT be funding his security and certainly not since he himself has goaded the Taliban and put himself in that position. He has only himself to blame. Spoilt entitled little brat.

He is entitled to taxpayer funded security whenever he comes to the UK. His own personal actions have no bearing on that. He will always have security.
He just wants it to be limitless and also, it would appear, provided for him in the USA.

Seems like he wants the status that provides taxpayer funded security in any country he goes to or lives in. Get a grip harry, you aren't the heir to the throne ffs.

... you're the Spare...
Which is at the heart of his problems. Why is he so desperate? What did he promise Meghan during their whirlwind romance?

Bloody hell. Harry is just utterly deluded isn’t he. It’s bizarre that he can’t see the most basic contradictions in what he’s saying.

Although I’ve ceased to be shocked by much he comes out with, I think the claim that his father / the Royal household are central to denying him the kind of security he wants because they wish harm to come to him is unbelievable.

for him to then say he wants reconciliation in the same breath is just insane. Firstly because why would you want to reconcile with someone you feel is actively out to put you in harms way, and secondly because how on earth can he think that saying these things would make anybody want to reconcile with him? But, as ever, Harry thinks he can say and do whatever he want and that should have no bearing whatsoever on how people feel about him.

the other comment he made which I find appalling is that he “doesn’t know how long his dad has left.” Now while it could be a generalist comment because his father is older and he’s totally frozen out, it’s pretty inflammatory as it suggests that the King’s cancer is terminal and he might not live that much longer - something which has absolutely not been suggested to the public in any communication.

he's just a horror.

I do find it interesting that BP chose to issue a statement this time having ignored so much else that has happened - and I thought the statement said a lot without saying a lot - it shows that they are sick to the back teeth and utterly fed up with Harry’s behaviour on this issue.

It will be interesting to see what, if anything, happens now. Harry has flounced - obviously he’s trying to now leverage other powers that be to support him on this but he will fall on deaf ears - I can’t see any way that Starmer or Cooper are going to get involved. And then what? At some point surely he will run out of options.

It did make me wonder though if California are indeed providing him some security. Not that Harry minds contradicting himself, but the statement about “other governments seeing fit to provide” security seems very strange if he’s not getting anything in the country he’s actually chosen to live in when apparently he’s totally unsafe without fully taxpayer funded police security. And if Newsom has been on Newsnight defending the Sussexes position (I don’t know what he said), maybe there is something there. Or it could be Harry’s usual cognitive dissonance.

He might not always have security though.

he will always be risk assessed and provided security if needed, at a level deemed appropriate. But many other working Royals don’t receive security outside of official engagements, and I suspect this is what he’s been told - that if he’s coming for private reasons (rather than attending a high profile event), he won’t necessarily get any physical bodyguards to accompany him.

Generally on his visits that we’ve seen he has been provided with met police protection - but they may not be with him all the time, and perhaps there have already been occasions where he’s not received this - after all, he’s more than capable of coming and going from the UK without anyone knowing about it if he doesn’t choose to publicise the fact.