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All the focus on H & M - where's the outrage against Andrew? (Season 2)

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Samcro · 16/04/2025 19:16

Thread 2 of what is an interesting topic.

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TulipTiptoer · 24/05/2025 20:36

themightysossidge · 24/05/2025 20:02

😂

Who's that directed at?!

I do find these gifs weird

Samcro · 25/05/2025 07:40

its attention seeking. best ignored.

I think it would be a shame if they cut down on royal visits. it means a lot to the visited. I know it meant a lot to my dc school when Camilla visited.

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MadeInGrimsby · 25/05/2025 07:45

If that primary school visit was part of Camilla's support for literacy matters, then it would continue, @Samcro . Just as her visits to women's refuges as part of her support for DV charities. I think this is the sort of thing the royals should definitely be supporting.

Samcro · 25/05/2025 11:38

sorry I should have said that it was an sn school for severely disabled children.

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MadeInGrimsby · 25/05/2025 12:10

Samcro · 25/05/2025 11:38

sorry I should have said that it was an sn school for severely disabled children.

That's very positive, I'm glad it's got Royal support.

jeffgoldblum · 25/05/2025 12:17

Camilla does support sen schools and assistance programs, she visited the springboard preschool my ds went to .

Samcro · 25/05/2025 12:33

jeffgoldblum · 25/05/2025 12:17

Camilla does support sen schools and assistance programs, she visited the springboard preschool my ds went to .

my dc met her, I wasn't one of the chosen parents there though .

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jeffgoldblum · 25/05/2025 12:40

Samcro · 25/05/2025 12:33

my dc met her, I wasn't one of the chosen parents there though .

I didn’t meet her sadly, it was just before he started!
but I used to walk past the plaque every morning 😀

Samcro · 25/05/2025 15:38

I saw on another thread that William wants to move away from ribbon cutting. I think that will be sad , as it means so much to people.

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MadeInGrimsby · 25/05/2025 16:11

Samcro · 25/05/2025 15:38

I saw on another thread that William wants to move away from ribbon cutting. I think that will be sad , as it means so much to people.

No, the article didn't say that. It said that he wants to be more involved with projects and fewer superficial engagements. The RF will be far smaller in the next 10 years. He's planning ahead.
Positive work like Earthshot and the homelessness project, and Camilla's type of project will continue.

Enoughisenough689 · 25/05/2025 16:16

MadeInGrimsby · 25/05/2025 16:11

No, the article didn't say that. It said that he wants to be more involved with projects and fewer superficial engagements. The RF will be far smaller in the next 10 years. He's planning ahead.
Positive work like Earthshot and the homelessness project, and Camilla's type of project will continue.

Although well intentioned, I think it’s a bit naive wanting to tackle a project like homelessness which can only be solved by massive political changes. What difference can he really make?

MadeInGrimsby · 25/05/2025 16:27

Enoughisenough689 · 25/05/2025 16:16

Although well intentioned, I think it’s a bit naive wanting to tackle a project like homelessness which can only be solved by massive political changes. What difference can he really make?

Oh my god. So he shouldn't bother?
He's made an amazing difference already. The homeless charity in my town has benefited immensely.
He came in an ordinary looking car. No cavalcade or obvious "security". He was booked for one hour, and stayed for two. He spoke to everyone working there and every homeless person. He's informing himself rather than just self promoting.
I think the problem is that he's not doing it for social media, it's all under the radar, there's no fanfare like the Yorks & the Sussexes. It's a completely different approach.

Lazycatsitsonthemat · 25/05/2025 16:57

MadeInGrimsby · 25/05/2025 16:27

Oh my god. So he shouldn't bother?
He's made an amazing difference already. The homeless charity in my town has benefited immensely.
He came in an ordinary looking car. No cavalcade or obvious "security". He was booked for one hour, and stayed for two. He spoke to everyone working there and every homeless person. He's informing himself rather than just self promoting.
I think the problem is that he's not doing it for social media, it's all under the radar, there's no fanfare like the Yorks & the Sussexes. It's a completely different approach.

That’s really great to hear!

MadeInGrimsby · 25/05/2025 17:00

Lazycatsitsonthemat · 25/05/2025 16:57

That’s really great to hear!

I know! I was so impressed and how modest he was, low key, keen to learn. I really didn't used to have much time for him, but in all honesty, this is good work. It's not for self promotion, not for social media, not for the headlines.

Samcro · 25/05/2025 17:05

MadeInGrimsby · 25/05/2025 16:27

Oh my god. So he shouldn't bother?
He's made an amazing difference already. The homeless charity in my town has benefited immensely.
He came in an ordinary looking car. No cavalcade or obvious "security". He was booked for one hour, and stayed for two. He spoke to everyone working there and every homeless person. He's informing himself rather than just self promoting.
I think the problem is that he's not doing it for social media, it's all under the radar, there's no fanfare like the Yorks & the Sussexes. It's a completely different approach.

That is good to hear

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Baital · 25/05/2025 19:05

Enoughisenough689 · 25/05/2025 16:16

Although well intentioned, I think it’s a bit naive wanting to tackle a project like homelessness which can only be solved by massive political changes. What difference can he really make?

You could also ask what difference the DofEdinburgh awards make, or the King's (Princes) Trust. No, in isolation they don't change the world. But they do give opportunities to young people who wouldn't otherwise have them, and make many, many little changes that add up. And have become self sustaining initiatives.

It's early days to say whether any of William's initiatives take hold, but unless he (and the people he works with) try, then they definitely won't.

CurlewKate · 25/05/2025 19:32

Baital · 25/05/2025 19:05

You could also ask what difference the DofEdinburgh awards make, or the King's (Princes) Trust. No, in isolation they don't change the world. But they do give opportunities to young people who wouldn't otherwise have them, and make many, many little changes that add up. And have become self sustaining initiatives.

It's early days to say whether any of William's initiatives take hold, but unless he (and the people he works with) try, then they definitely won't.

I agree-with reservations-about the Prince’s Trust. But the DofE is expensive to participate in.

And I could be wrong, but didn’t William actually make a commitment to end rough sleeping by a particular date?

myrtleWilson · 25/05/2025 20:07

No, he didn't @CurlewKate he said that after 5 years of Homewards, he want us as a society to be on the road to preventing homelessness and that the Homewards locality initiatives will be demonstrator sites. Also, your reference to rough sleeping suggests a narrow understanding of homelessness (apologies if i've misunderstood). Some of the localites are using the funding to better understand and respond to the needs of particular cohorts of the population who are at risk of homelessness and may experience mutliple and complex disadvantages. This can hopefully enhance an evidence base that could lead to changes in allocation and rules around use of statutory funding pots. The changing futures northumbria work is a good example of how non stat funding can engender a different way of delivering public services which ulitmately deliver better outcomes at reduced cost. I think Homewards is looking at that challenge and testing through lens of homeless at place.
I've linked to changing futures if anyone is interested
https://www.changingfuturesnorthumbria.co.uk/rethinking-public-service

The Liberated Method - Rethinking public service

To share the learning we are generating and to invite people to get involved with our activities

https://www.changingfuturesnorthumbria.co.uk/rethinking-public-service

CurlewKate · 25/05/2025 20:39

myrtleWilson · 25/05/2025 20:07

No, he didn't @CurlewKate he said that after 5 years of Homewards, he want us as a society to be on the road to preventing homelessness and that the Homewards locality initiatives will be demonstrator sites. Also, your reference to rough sleeping suggests a narrow understanding of homelessness (apologies if i've misunderstood). Some of the localites are using the funding to better understand and respond to the needs of particular cohorts of the population who are at risk of homelessness and may experience mutliple and complex disadvantages. This can hopefully enhance an evidence base that could lead to changes in allocation and rules around use of statutory funding pots. The changing futures northumbria work is a good example of how non stat funding can engender a different way of delivering public services which ulitmately deliver better outcomes at reduced cost. I think Homewards is looking at that challenge and testing through lens of homeless at place.
I've linked to changing futures if anyone is interested
https://www.changingfuturesnorthumbria.co.uk/rethinking-public-service

Thank you. I used the term “rough sleeping” because I was under the impression that was the term PW used. Let’s hope he listens and takes advice from the experts.

MadeInGrimsby · 25/05/2025 20:59

Baital · 25/05/2025 19:05

You could also ask what difference the DofEdinburgh awards make, or the King's (Princes) Trust. No, in isolation they don't change the world. But they do give opportunities to young people who wouldn't otherwise have them, and make many, many little changes that add up. And have become self sustaining initiatives.

It's early days to say whether any of William's initiatives take hold, but unless he (and the people he works with) try, then they definitely won't.

This. Countless young people have gained so much from the DofE Award. So many people given opportunities with a helping hand from the Prince's Trust (King's Trust). They haven't changed the world, but have been very successful and incredibly helpful to many.

MadeInGrimsby · 25/05/2025 21:08

CurlewKate · 25/05/2025 20:39

Thank you. I used the term “rough sleeping” because I was under the impression that was the term PW used. Let’s hope he listens and takes advice from the experts.

He most certainly does. Why would you think he doesn't?

MadeInGrimsby · 25/05/2025 21:09

CurlewKate · 25/05/2025 19:32

I agree-with reservations-about the Prince’s Trust. But the DofE is expensive to participate in.

And I could be wrong, but didn’t William actually make a commitment to end rough sleeping by a particular date?

The DofE Award is subsidised. All the students at our school who do this, do so for free if they are PP or FSM.
It's an incredible scheme, and quite literally life changing.

MadeInGrimsby · 25/05/2025 21:20

Why knock something proven to be so incredibly successful and supportive, making a difference to people's lives?
At least this is about doing something. It's easy to sit on a sofa and say "that doesn't help everyone". Neither do most initiatives, but at least they help some, and the difference can be incredible. It's no exaggeration to say that doing the DofE saved me as a teenager, and no, I didn't have to pay.

MadeInGrimsby · 25/05/2025 21:21

Thank you for your details and the link, @myrtleWilson .

MadeInGrimsby · 25/05/2025 21:24

Maybe it's easy to knock something you have never had need of.

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