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Prince Harry Telegraph interview

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AtIusvue · 11/04/2025 19:01

Delusional as ever. He claims it was the RF removing his security to trap him. Completely disregarding that the RF have no say over such matters and its an issue for the Home Secretary/RAVEC.

Imagine what must go on in his mind. Stay away from drugs kids.

https://archive.ph/gn01o

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2025/04/11/prince-harry-police-protection-withdrawn-trap-royal-family/

‘He suggested that he would find it hard to forgive his treatment and added that his “worst fears have been confirmed” by secret evidence he had heard in court.
The Duke believes his taxpayer-funded security was removed in a failed attempt force him to stay in Britain, after he announced they were stepping back from public duties and moving to the US.’

‘The Duke made clear that he will continue to fight for what he regards as justice, whatever the outcome of the case.
When he believes he has uncovered a wrong, he said, he is unable to let things lie and feels the need to “get under the bonnet and fix it”, adding that he was “driven by exposing injustice”’

And of course he’s been shocked by all the secrets revealed during the trial ….which of course he can’t tell you about. Convenient that?

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blandierst · 13/04/2025 10:56

Harry is the absolute paradigm argument for abolition of the monarchy because he shows the weakness of a system where people's only qualification for a job is by accident of birth.

He is uneducated, sulky, not very bright, self obsessed, lacking in empathy or understanding of how his actions are pereived, deeply entitled and completely lacking in any kind of ability to do anything except for his brief period in the military.

I wouldn't give him a job to do anything at all. In theory, given a death and a major accident, he could become monarch.

It's just all too random and uncertain. Charles isn't much better intellectually either but Harry is off the scale with his lack of common sense. Simple example is the eco-warrior persona v using private jets. Any fool could see the issue.

Thedom · 13/04/2025 11:02

The daily mail today,

Look at the video of Harry, 😞I remember it being discussed here at the time. When I look at all those instances of how he is diminished by his wife, I can't help but feel sorry for him. His mouth opening like a fish, poor guy.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14588219/lip-reader-meghan-markle-prince-harry-colombia.html

Mightymoog · 13/04/2025 11:03

Thedom · 13/04/2025 10:44

Mightymoog, I don't know how the international drugs scene works, but I am sure Harry is not carrying anything in his bag nor calling around for a drugs supply, they have fixers to sort that sort of stuff out for them.

I'm sure they do but that implies his trusted people must have connections everywhere they go?
Just wondering how the life of a jetsetting imbiber actually works in a practical sense!

TheMovieFlopped · 13/04/2025 11:20

Oh bugger off back to California Harry and don’t come back!

notimagain · 13/04/2025 11:27

Mightymoog · 13/04/2025 11:03

I'm sure they do but that implies his trusted people must have connections everywhere they go?
Just wondering how the life of a jetsetting imbiber actually works in a practical sense!

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Rumour has it that it's really not that difficult almost anywhere in the world...

eg. Somebody in the hotel knows somebody who knows somebody etc

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StopStartStop · 13/04/2025 11:30

People used to get 'exiled'. Can we exile him? I don't want him here, I don't care if he's lacking security. He's as bad as his bloody awful drama-queen mother.

BunnyLake · 13/04/2025 11:35

Does anyone even want this guy in the UK? I don’t think there's a single (intelligent) person who actually cares if he never sets foot in this country again.

Mightymoog · 13/04/2025 11:37

notimagain · 13/04/2025 11:27

Rumour has it that it's really not that difficult almost anywhere in the world...

eg. Somebody in the hotel knows somebody who knows somebody etc

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ah right, of course. Guess high end hotels get a lot of special requests!

Snorlaxo · 13/04/2025 11:37

BunnyLake · 13/04/2025 11:35

Does anyone even want this guy in the UK? I don’t think there's a single (intelligent) person who actually cares if he never sets foot in this country again.

I suspect that his dad would like to see him
sometimes but normal people would rather he stay in the US.

BunnyLake · 13/04/2025 11:38

vera99 · 13/04/2025 08:23

My perception is that die-hard royalists hate Harry for two main reasons: first, because he had the audacity to walk away from his birthright role as an active member of the Royal Family; and second, because he remains popular, has married an American actress who presents well, and is willing to air the monarchy’s dirty laundry in public. This outspokenness is partly a reaction to years of coercive control, allegedly exercised by his father through immense wealth and power. Add to that the heavy, unyielding hand of the Establishment, which balks at the idea—especially in the age of social media—of an "alternative" royal figure overshadowing the official heir.

There really is a "Get Harry" campaign in full flood especially in the British media and here we are. To parapharse the Life of Brian he's not a devil just a naughty boy and the second son of His Majesty King Charles III, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of His other Realms and Territories King, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith.

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😂😂😂

BunnyLake · 13/04/2025 11:40

Snorlaxo · 13/04/2025 11:37

I suspect that his dad would like to see him
sometimes but normal people would rather he stay in the US.

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I’d guess that the idea of seeing the Harry of today would cause Charles great stress. He most likely does miss the old Harry (even if he was still spoilt it was more under control).

FoxedByACat · 13/04/2025 11:47

MonteShitshow · 13/04/2025 10:07

I apologise if this is considered derailing the thread, but I am very interested in the point you make. Do you have any idea why your family member changed so much - was he already this person inside, before therapy brought it out into the open?

is he a lot happier and reconciled with himself in spite of what the rest of the family can see?

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I have a family member who has had therapy and it does seem to have made them worse. I think the issue can sometimes be that therapy can be an echo chamber. I am sure this depends on the therapist. But in my relatives case it seems that they feel strengthened in their victim mentality and more justified in their belief that everyone is awful to them. The problem is that the therapist only gets one side of the story. And I can imagine if the person having the therapy already has a victim mentality/blows things out of all proportion and sits there telling the therapist that xyz happened, if the therapist takes that on face value and starts talking along the lines of “well that’s terrible, I’m not surprised you feel awful that someone did xyz” then the person just feels vindicated and more bitter.

Printorplainthatisthequestion · 13/04/2025 11:47

BunnyLake · 13/04/2025 11:35

Does anyone even want this guy in the UK? I don’t think there's a single (intelligent) person who actually cares if he never sets foot in this country again.

I don’t think that people generally hold the same views as those on the RF threads.

Tbh all these threads full of people wanting Harry never to come home, never to reconcile with his father and brother, not to succeed with his charities, or his marriage, or his legal cases, are a bit much imho. Enough is enough,

Lots of people have disagreements with their families, especially when a family business is involved. So many posters on Mumsnet go lc or nc. Whether he is right or wrong Harry is allowed an opinion and autonomy of action. And now he has sued the tabloids, he is never going to be portrayed in a good light ever again. It’s up to ordinary members of the public to take a more objective view imho,

Bluntly, I don’t understand how anyone intelligent can go along with the rhetoric that everything the RF does is somehow perfect and golden, and everything H&M dis malign! If you have a brain you know that real life is far more nuanced than that.

MayaKovskaya · 13/04/2025 11:52

@Printorplainthatisthequestion - your last paragraph, I've never seen anyone on here claim that. There are quite a few claiming that H and M are innocent victims, and the RF is malign. They often post stories about W and C, on here, or C and C, as if it were evidence.
Harry has a relationship with the press, frequently giving information and details. Of course he does, he and his wife are celebrities and very much pursuing that lifestyle. They clearly want the headlines and the clicks, but seem to be unable to manage negativity.
All this is about is security case and the issues pertaining to that.
It has exposed a lot more about Harry's personality

BunnyLake · 13/04/2025 11:53

Printorplainthatisthequestion · 13/04/2025 11:47

I don’t think that people generally hold the same views as those on the RF threads.

Tbh all these threads full of people wanting Harry never to come home, never to reconcile with his father and brother, not to succeed with his charities, or his marriage, or his legal cases, are a bit much imho. Enough is enough,

Lots of people have disagreements with their families, especially when a family business is involved. So many posters on Mumsnet go lc or nc. Whether he is right or wrong Harry is allowed an opinion and autonomy of action. And now he has sued the tabloids, he is never going to be portrayed in a good light ever again. It’s up to ordinary members of the public to take a more objective view imho,

Bluntly, I don’t understand how anyone intelligent can go along with the rhetoric that everything the RF does is somehow perfect and golden, and everything H&M dis malign! If you have a brain you know that real life is far more nuanced than that.

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But does anyone care if he’s in the UK or not?

Tomatotater · 13/04/2025 11:58

blandierst · 13/04/2025 10:56

Harry is the absolute paradigm argument for abolition of the monarchy because he shows the weakness of a system where people's only qualification for a job is by accident of birth.

He is uneducated, sulky, not very bright, self obsessed, lacking in empathy or understanding of how his actions are pereived, deeply entitled and completely lacking in any kind of ability to do anything except for his brief period in the military.

I wouldn't give him a job to do anything at all. In theory, given a death and a major accident, he could become monarch.

It's just all too random and uncertain. Charles isn't much better intellectually either but Harry is off the scale with his lack of common sense. Simple example is the eco-warrior persona v using private jets. Any fool could see the issue.

Agree. It's the same with all of them. I do think Charles has a level of intellectual curiosity even if he's not traditionally ' book clever', like his father but I don't think he has passed that on to either of his sons. I agree that Harry is what happens when you put one ordinary family on a situation where they are held up as somehow higher than everyone else, surround them with people who never say no to them, then take away their entire purpose ( running the country) but let them stay there. The environmental issue ( as well as the ending homelessness and the early years stuff are things they cannot do anything about because they require political solutions and money which comes from tax , (which they are exempt from) and opens them up to easy accusations of hypocrisy as they own several properties, huge swathes of land and fly around in helicopters. Harry is not an outlier. He's just not protected anymore.

Theunamedcat · 13/04/2025 11:58

Printorplainthatisthequestion · 13/04/2025 11:47

I don’t think that people generally hold the same views as those on the RF threads.

Tbh all these threads full of people wanting Harry never to come home, never to reconcile with his father and brother, not to succeed with his charities, or his marriage, or his legal cases, are a bit much imho. Enough is enough,

Lots of people have disagreements with their families, especially when a family business is involved. So many posters on Mumsnet go lc or nc. Whether he is right or wrong Harry is allowed an opinion and autonomy of action. And now he has sued the tabloids, he is never going to be portrayed in a good light ever again. It’s up to ordinary members of the public to take a more objective view imho,

Bluntly, I don’t understand how anyone intelligent can go along with the rhetoric that everything the RF does is somehow perfect and golden, and everything H&M dis malign! If you have a brain you know that real life is far more nuanced than that.

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He is allowed to do as he pleases and pay for it himself

JoyousEagle · 13/04/2025 12:01

notimagain · 13/04/2025 11:27

Rumour has it that it's really not that difficult almost anywhere in the world...

eg. Somebody in the hotel knows somebody who knows somebody etc

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I don’t know if the charges were dropped, but I think two hotel staff members were charged for supplying Liam Payne with drugs.

Printorplainthatisthequestion · 13/04/2025 12:17

MayaKovskaya · 13/04/2025 11:52

@Printorplainthatisthequestion - your last paragraph, I've never seen anyone on here claim that. There are quite a few claiming that H and M are innocent victims, and the RF is malign. They often post stories about W and C, on here, or C and C, as if it were evidence.
Harry has a relationship with the press, frequently giving information and details. Of course he does, he and his wife are celebrities and very much pursuing that lifestyle. They clearly want the headlines and the clicks, but seem to be unable to manage negativity.
All this is about is security case and the issues pertaining to that.
It has exposed a lot more about Harry's personality

Well shall we say that is the general thrust of the argument on the majority of these threads which appear to be quite partisan. I’m not including PA threads obviously!

And respectfully I don’t really agree with your interpretation of events. They want to earn their own living and the things that they already have experience in, ie charity work, acting, blogging, are all “public activities”. That’s very different to wanting headlines and clicks.

Rhaidimiddim · 13/04/2025 12:20

Mightymoog · 13/04/2025 11:03

I'm sure they do but that implies his trusted people must have connections everywhere they go?
Just wondering how the life of a jetsetting imbiber actually works in a practical sense!

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Soho House- type of organisation?

Mightymoog · 13/04/2025 12:29

@Printorplainthatisthequestion

Bluntly, I don’t understand how anyone intelligent can go along with the rhetoric that everything the RF does is somehow perfect and golden, and everything H&M dis malign!

I'd be surprised if anyone on here as expressed that view.
Who are you thinking of, or which comments?

Mightymoog · 13/04/2025 12:29

JoyousEagle · 13/04/2025 12:01

I don’t know if the charges were dropped, but I think two hotel staff members were charged for supplying Liam Payne with drugs.

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interesting (despite not knowing who Liam Payne is)

MayaKovskaya · 13/04/2025 12:49

Printorplainthatisthequestion · 13/04/2025 12:17

Well shall we say that is the general thrust of the argument on the majority of these threads which appear to be quite partisan. I’m not including PA threads obviously!

And respectfully I don’t really agree with your interpretation of events. They want to earn their own living and the things that they already have experience in, ie charity work, acting, blogging, are all “public activities”. That’s very different to wanting headlines and clicks.

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I respectfully disagree. Pap walks, photo opps, being controversial, constant social media posting would indicate what kind of lifestyle these royals are pursuing.
They can only "earn their own living" by trading on their royal status. Not much else they are able to do, really
.

utterexasperation · 13/04/2025 12:58

Printorplainthatisthequestion · 13/04/2025 11:47

I don’t think that people generally hold the same views as those on the RF threads.

Tbh all these threads full of people wanting Harry never to come home, never to reconcile with his father and brother, not to succeed with his charities, or his marriage, or his legal cases, are a bit much imho. Enough is enough,

Lots of people have disagreements with their families, especially when a family business is involved. So many posters on Mumsnet go lc or nc. Whether he is right or wrong Harry is allowed an opinion and autonomy of action. And now he has sued the tabloids, he is never going to be portrayed in a good light ever again. It’s up to ordinary members of the public to take a more objective view imho,

Bluntly, I don’t understand how anyone intelligent can go along with the rhetoric that everything the RF does is somehow perfect and golden, and everything H&M dis malign! If you have a brain you know that real life is far more nuanced than that.

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"It's up to ordinary members of the public to take a more objective view" ??? What the heck ? That doesn't even make sense 😂

utterexasperation · 13/04/2025 13:02

Yes @FoxedByACat I knew someone like that too. If you indulged them by agreeing it was even worse. If you ignored them it continued to brew. If you challenged them like Harry is being they lie. They are stuck in their own miserable view of everybody else being responsible for their misery.