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Prince Harry Telegraph interview

186 replies

AtIusvue · 11/04/2025 19:01

Delusional as ever. He claims it was the RF removing his security to trap him. Completely disregarding that the RF have no say over such matters and its an issue for the Home Secretary/RAVEC.

Imagine what must go on in his mind. Stay away from drugs kids.

https://archive.ph/gn01o

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2025/04/11/prince-harry-police-protection-withdrawn-trap-royal-family/

‘He suggested that he would find it hard to forgive his treatment and added that his “worst fears have been confirmed” by secret evidence he had heard in court.
The Duke believes his taxpayer-funded security was removed in a failed attempt force him to stay in Britain, after he announced they were stepping back from public duties and moving to the US.’

‘The Duke made clear that he will continue to fight for what he regards as justice, whatever the outcome of the case.
When he believes he has uncovered a wrong, he said, he is unable to let things lie and feels the need to “get under the bonnet and fix it”, adding that he was “driven by exposing injustice”’

And of course he’s been shocked by all the secrets revealed during the trial ….which of course he can’t tell you about. Convenient that?

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Teajenny7 · 13/04/2025 09:08

Totally agree.
If you want the privileges earn them.

If you miss blighty, come and live here, work and pay your taxes.

If not seek citizenship of your new adopted homeland and work and pay your taxes.

Drop the ludicrous titles.
Or if they want to keep them do something for the people and area of Dumbarton, Kilkeel and Sussex!

MayaKovskaya · 13/04/2025 09:09

Lazycatsitsonthemat · 13/04/2025 09:02

Unfortunately therapy isn’t always the answer. Someone in our family has turned into an unrecognisable person since having therapy. Angry, entitled, lacking in empathy and blaming his family for all his issues. He is completely estranged from us now.

How dreadful. I do think that having a good job or something engaging to focus on other than yourself is a good idea. It stops people being self absorbed and frames the day. Gives you purpose.

Mightymoog · 13/04/2025 09:20

vera99 · 13/04/2025 08:23

My perception is that die-hard royalists hate Harry for two main reasons: first, because he had the audacity to walk away from his birthright role as an active member of the Royal Family; and second, because he remains popular, has married an American actress who presents well, and is willing to air the monarchy’s dirty laundry in public. This outspokenness is partly a reaction to years of coercive control, allegedly exercised by his father through immense wealth and power. Add to that the heavy, unyielding hand of the Establishment, which balks at the idea—especially in the age of social media—of an "alternative" royal figure overshadowing the official heir.

There really is a "Get Harry" campaign in full flood especially in the British media and here we are. To parapharse the Life of Brian he's not a devil just a naughty boy and the second son of His Majesty King Charles III, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of His other Realms and Territories King, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith.

wow, you really are into them, aren't you!

utterexasperation · 13/04/2025 09:31

I don't think that people " hate" Harry because he " had the audacity to walk away from his birthright role" blah blah. This isn't the 1930s. This isn't the Middle Ages. Most sensible people now realise that the RF face the same issues at times as ordinary people. The 1936 Abdication was shocking and of a totally different time. To be frank Harry always seemed to be a bit of a wanker but many people were glad for him that he was getting married. He has however gone on to whinge and moan constantly. What a waste of a life. He himself creates negative criticism. He can't let go though of Britain and the RF. I think the worst thing in British eyes that you can be is an ungrateful layabout and that's Harry's image. He doesn't take responsibility for his own actions.
As for Meghan she has talked with disrespect and lies about various members of the RF. She clings on however to a title from that same institution. She is seen as a " blawbag" and a waster by many. They both bring out the worst in each other.

DuchessOfPort · 13/04/2025 09:40

When do we finally see the judge end this? If this appeal fails are we done with the whining that bespoke taxpayer funded security isn’t good enough?

EasternStandard · 13/04/2025 09:40

NewAgeNewMe · 13/04/2025 08:36

I’m a constitutional monarchist. Not a royalist. The two are different.

Until such time as a properly thought out alternative is available (not off with their heads/get rid of them) I’ll stick to the status quo.

After Brexit I do not want another daft referendum with ‘sort it out later’.

Same. The whole Harry thing is ridiculous anyway.

I agree with pp that he comes across as spoilt, with a victim mentality and someone who thinks he should be getting more and more whilst doing less.

Nominative · 13/04/2025 09:46

His objection seems to be to having to give 30 days' notice, which I assume is necessary so that the relevant plans can be made and security staff and police assigned. The alternative would be to have a squad permanently on standby ready to drop everything and take over his and his family's security every time they decided to pop into the UK on a whim, even if it was a few hours' notice because they suddenly decide they want to go to Wimbledon or a party or something. There is simply no sensible reason why the British taxpayer should pay for that.

Mylovelygreendress · 13/04/2025 09:52

DuchessOfPort · 13/04/2025 09:40

When do we finally see the judge end this? If this appeal fails are we done with the whining that bespoke taxpayer funded security isn’t good enough?

I think it was @serenster who explained what could happen next but can’t remember the exact details !

Espresso25 · 13/04/2025 09:56

He’s entitled and delusion. He plays out perfectly what it means to have a birth right and an ensuing feeling of superiority - he believes irrespective of his actions he’s entitled to the same rewards as always. To my mind it’s like leaving a job and expecting to still be paid.

Nominative · 13/04/2025 10:05

vera99 · 13/04/2025 08:23

My perception is that die-hard royalists hate Harry for two main reasons: first, because he had the audacity to walk away from his birthright role as an active member of the Royal Family; and second, because he remains popular, has married an American actress who presents well, and is willing to air the monarchy’s dirty laundry in public. This outspokenness is partly a reaction to years of coercive control, allegedly exercised by his father through immense wealth and power. Add to that the heavy, unyielding hand of the Establishment, which balks at the idea—especially in the age of social media—of an "alternative" royal figure overshadowing the official heir.

There really is a "Get Harry" campaign in full flood especially in the British media and here we are. To parapharse the Life of Brian he's not a devil just a naughty boy and the second son of His Majesty King Charles III, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of His other Realms and Territories King, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith.

I really don't think so. For a long time I was very much Team Harry. I thought bringing Meghan into the RF was a breath of fresh air, and that she could very much strengthen it and bring it into the 21st century. When they decided to bugger off, I thought it was a pity but ultimately up to them.

However, all the nonsense around the Netflix series and "Spare" made me change my mind. There was so much "poor me", so many lies, and the way he interpreted his family's actions was blatantly ridiculous time and again. I was particularly sickened by the way they both sought to monetise the Diana connection. I see no logic in his action against RAVEC: he's as safe as he needs to be when he comes to the UK, and there is no reason why he should be entitled to paid-for security in the US when going there was solely their choice. I fear that all of this is going to be the prelude to several whinging interviews and another book, and he's going to discover that he still can't earn enough to pay his legal costs and will panic and whinge yet more. Really the press should just ignore him.

MonteShitshow · 13/04/2025 10:07

Lazycatsitsonthemat · 13/04/2025 09:02

Unfortunately therapy isn’t always the answer. Someone in our family has turned into an unrecognisable person since having therapy. Angry, entitled, lacking in empathy and blaming his family for all his issues. He is completely estranged from us now.

I apologise if this is considered derailing the thread, but I am very interested in the point you make. Do you have any idea why your family member changed so much - was he already this person inside, before therapy brought it out into the open?

is he a lot happier and reconciled with himself in spite of what the rest of the family can see?

EasternStandard · 13/04/2025 10:08

At this point it’s more likely ‘die-hard’ Harry supporters are posting as pp did rather than royalists . He manages to irritate more than just the latter.

Nominative · 13/04/2025 10:13

MonteShitshow · 13/04/2025 10:07

I apologise if this is considered derailing the thread, but I am very interested in the point you make. Do you have any idea why your family member changed so much - was he already this person inside, before therapy brought it out into the open?

is he a lot happier and reconciled with himself in spite of what the rest of the family can see?

Sometimes therapy goes very wrong indeed. The husband of a friend began having awful cluster headaches for which he turned to therapy. He ended up believing all sorts of nonsense: he left his job and expected his wife to support him and the children, then began accusing her of causing the headaches by poisoning the trees in the garden. Ultimately he went to live with the therapist and her husband, bizarrely. Not surprisingly, friend divorced him and he sadly cut off contact with the children. It was all an utter nightmare.

NOTANUM · 13/04/2025 10:14

If you can go to the Ukraine with nothing more than local police protection, you can go to your friend’s weddings and have coffee in Chelsea.

Mightymoog · 13/04/2025 10:16

MayaKovskaya · 13/04/2025 08:59

He's had a lot of therapy, but I'm wondering why he behaves the way he does.

because he's had a lot of therapy?

shockthemonkey · 13/04/2025 10:22

Theunamedcat · 13/04/2025 08:58

Harry had therapy too they both did to cope with the loss of their mother

There’s having therapy and there’s doing the work required for the therapy to succède.

The work is sometimes uncomfortable and takes discipline. Without knowing either of them personally, it’s quite plausible that only one of them did the work.

MonteShitshow · 13/04/2025 10:22

Thank you @Nominative . I’m trying to unpick in my head (with great difficulty) if these examples of ‘ therapy going wrong’ are badly performed therapy or whether the subjects themselves feel totally better and therefore have drastically changed their behaviour after their true selves have been released.

it sounds utterly disastrous what happened with your friend and her children, I don’t think that kind of outcome is what I would expect from therapy at all omg. Like most people, I am quite sure she would have thought therapy could have helped him manage life with the headaches.

Mightymoog · 13/04/2025 10:26

MonteShitshow · 13/04/2025 10:22

Thank you @Nominative . I’m trying to unpick in my head (with great difficulty) if these examples of ‘ therapy going wrong’ are badly performed therapy or whether the subjects themselves feel totally better and therefore have drastically changed their behaviour after their true selves have been released.

it sounds utterly disastrous what happened with your friend and her children, I don’t think that kind of outcome is what I would expect from therapy at all omg. Like most people, I am quite sure she would have thought therapy could have helped him manage life with the headaches.

I don't know.
I've yet to come across anyone where I think therapy has actually improved them/ their lives at all.
It just seems to make peopkle selfish/ angry/ dismissive of others' feelings

Thedom · 13/04/2025 10:29

Don't overlook Harrys' use of drugs, that has more impact on his cognitive skills and reasoning, if you are in the therapists chair and high on whatever hallucinogenic he uses, its not going to have any hope of working. I would be surprised if he is ever stone cold sober at any of his public events, you can regularly see how glazed over his eyes are.

Mightymoog · 13/04/2025 10:34

Thedom · 13/04/2025 10:29

Don't overlook Harrys' use of drugs, that has more impact on his cognitive skills and reasoning, if you are in the therapists chair and high on whatever hallucinogenic he uses, its not going to have any hope of working. I would be surprised if he is ever stone cold sober at any of his public events, you can regularly see how glazed over his eyes are.

Do such people not have to have any security checks at all?
You'd think they'd still want to check luggage for explosives etc. and if they found drugs whilst doing so what would happen/ Just pretend they haven't seen it?
Just pondering how he would get drugs whilst in another country; his "people" can't have local decent dealers details for everywhere?
( ready to be told how naiive I am!

RandyRedHumpback · 13/04/2025 10:41

DuchessOfPort · 13/04/2025 09:40

When do we finally see the judge end this? If this appeal fails are we done with the whining that bespoke taxpayer funded security isn’t good enough?

There is no "end" as such, he won't stop moaning because he clearly doesn't understand what judicial review is for. A judicial review looks at the way a decision was reached by an official/governmental body. The body's decision making must be legal, rational and procedurally proper. The court looks at the way the decision was reached, not the rights and wrongs of the conclusion reached. The judge will most likely decide that the decision making process carried out by RAVEC - which resulted in the bespoke process for the very unique circumstances of Harry - was not illegal, irrational or improper. In the remote chance Harry wins his appeal, all that happens is that RAVEC will have to carry out another assessment, and it's highly likely they will come up with the same conclusion/bespoke process - that he only will have protection in the UK, and upon giving sufficient notice. Because, as I said, judicial review only looks at the process of decision making, not the results of the decision making.

As an aside, Harry did an interview just a couple of weeks ago when he was asked what he missed about the UK. He literally could not come up with a single thing he misses about his life here. So to claim the UK is somewhere he really wants to keep coming back to? Pull the other one. This JR, as with everything this man baby does, is all about his envy of what his brother has.

Snorlaxo · 13/04/2025 10:41

A few points

There isn’t a Get Harry campaign. His wife and him are the King and Queen of clickbait because they talk about the BRF, make statements and do more publicity stunts like pap walks compared to the rest of the BRF combined. The BRF don’t respond to their actions because it creates more clickbait and they don’t want to be in the news for that kind of thing. Being the target for newspaper clickbait doesn’t mean that they are picked on. There is a ridiculous amount of clickbait about them and there’d be an article if Meghan just farted in public but they must have a developed strategy with their PR company that says that this is good for their brand. They clearly want to be famous and photos and articles are part of that - especially when living in a country that rejected British royalty in a revolution.

The Jeremy Clarkson comments were criticised by royalists in the same way that Sussex fans on here have said that Sussex Squad are too extreme. Royalists have also condemned the conspiracy stories about the kids. JC’s dd also condemned him for his comments about Meghan.

I agree that Meghan gets more blame than Harry because a lot of people still believe the image of Harry created by the men in grey suits. He knows how things are but makes no acknowledgment of how he benefitted from that system. I wonder if he duped her somewhat in his desperation that she marries him. I’m not saying that M is blameless - she did her own solo interviews making false allegations like the children being harassed on the school run but she must be the family breadwinner rn in a world that’s about to roll into recession.

Thedom · 13/04/2025 10:44

Mightymoog, I don't know how the international drugs scene works, but I am sure Harry is not carrying anything in his bag nor calling around for a drugs supply, they have fixers to sort that sort of stuff out for them.

Nominative · 13/04/2025 10:45

MonteShitshow · 13/04/2025 10:22

Thank you @Nominative . I’m trying to unpick in my head (with great difficulty) if these examples of ‘ therapy going wrong’ are badly performed therapy or whether the subjects themselves feel totally better and therefore have drastically changed their behaviour after their true selves have been released.

it sounds utterly disastrous what happened with your friend and her children, I don’t think that kind of outcome is what I would expect from therapy at all omg. Like most people, I am quite sure she would have thought therapy could have helped him manage life with the headaches.

I think this was just a bad therapist. I know there are good ones. However, I suspect Harry would only stick with a therapist who bolstered him in what he wants to think, i.e. that he is a tragic, persecuted, hard-done by person who can do no wrong and who bears no responsibility whenever any of his decisions have bad consequences.

Espresso25 · 13/04/2025 10:45

Snorlaxo · 13/04/2025 10:41

A few points

There isn’t a Get Harry campaign. His wife and him are the King and Queen of clickbait because they talk about the BRF, make statements and do more publicity stunts like pap walks compared to the rest of the BRF combined. The BRF don’t respond to their actions because it creates more clickbait and they don’t want to be in the news for that kind of thing. Being the target for newspaper clickbait doesn’t mean that they are picked on. There is a ridiculous amount of clickbait about them and there’d be an article if Meghan just farted in public but they must have a developed strategy with their PR company that says that this is good for their brand. They clearly want to be famous and photos and articles are part of that - especially when living in a country that rejected British royalty in a revolution.

The Jeremy Clarkson comments were criticised by royalists in the same way that Sussex fans on here have said that Sussex Squad are too extreme. Royalists have also condemned the conspiracy stories about the kids. JC’s dd also condemned him for his comments about Meghan.

I agree that Meghan gets more blame than Harry because a lot of people still believe the image of Harry created by the men in grey suits. He knows how things are but makes no acknowledgment of how he benefitted from that system. I wonder if he duped her somewhat in his desperation that she marries him. I’m not saying that M is blameless - she did her own solo interviews making false allegations like the children being harassed on the school run but she must be the family breadwinner rn in a world that’s about to roll into recession.

I suspect the idea of a “quiet life” was appealing when it was funded by the BRF, but on realising they weren’t going to keep their BRF income they need to keep in the public eye to keep an income stream. They’re like a classy version of Katie Price, need to keep inventing dramas to get an income.