As ever launch

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Launches tomorrow.

So we will find out the prices and how the products will be sold

Well why should products that are affordable look cheap? They don't have to. Lots of products out there that look beautiful, packaged beautifully but are in the affordable range.

This "logic" is even more perverse than MM's. Affordable products don't need to look cheap. Who said they should As you say, there are loads of good looking affordable products out there (most of the Duchy Originals range, in fact).

Affordable products must be, first and foremost from the perspectives of both producer and consumer, good quality. If there's a choice to be made between quality and packaging, both producer and consumer choose quality first: consumers because times are hard, producers because they want to stay in business.

If there's no choice to be made between quality and packaging because the product can be affordable even with both targets being hit, then there's no problem. But that's not what MM said. She said she wanted products that "look more prestige", ie look more prestige than they actually are.

Which point are you addressing with "Well why should products that are affordable look cheap?"? This is the sort of weird contortion of reasoning that MM supporters regularly have to resort to because there's no other way to deal with the tripe she puts out. You all have to make something nonsensical make sense.

Was it Rouge Noir?

ETA apologies for the most off topic post ever

I'm glad to see that it's not only me who sees how she ties herself in knots with her word salad !

Environmental concerns and sustainability are of very high importance now with goods and services. It has been this way for many years now in the UK - not so much in the USA. Recycling of containers, removal of unnecessary packing on fruit and veg, refillable containers etc. Look at Harry with his latest output about not enough people thinking about sustainability when they are booking their flights , not looking at their CO2 footprint etc ( not that it seems to bother him). You would think he would be saying to Meghan " hmmm what about all this unnecessary packaging ? Is it needed ? " . This is the opposite of what Travalyst is aiming for.

I know! I was kinda horrified but all that unnecessary packaging!!

so hypocritical

I don’t usually eat packaging. I would rather have a quality affordable product simply packaged but tasting great than a sloppy runny pseudo spread in the most elaborate packaging known to mankind

May be off topic but it's exactly what I was wondering...

I don’t usually eat packaging. 🤣🤣🤣

@Uricon2 Just because so many people etc etc 😉
and @LaMarschallin

Yes!Yes! it was Rouge Noir! guilty as charged. 😊 ( which probably dates me but I don't care - at the time I wanted it and it was between all other expenses not something I would have bought for myself) But Oh how happy I was to unwrap it from under the tree in its black and white packaging. In current day prices it is £30. So an "accessible" luxury but but Chanel have taken decades and decades to build their brand. ( & I fell for it. 😂)

I wanted to create products that look more prestige, but are more accessible and affordable**

This is the influencer perspective. When Meghan says this, she's talking about them looking more prestigious on Instagram. Not in an actual kitchen, being opened and cooked with and eaten. Tbh it doesn't look that brilliant to me in digital form either, but that is what she's thinking of.

Your post makes no sense.

I imagine it was symbolic in some way of the new monarchy It won't have been done on some whim!

Whatever the reason, can you not even find it in yourself to be compassionate to a bereaved man, just because you hate him? Have a word with yourself.

You don't need an explanation. You just need to accept that it happened. And that the bereaved man had a brief moment of irritation and frustration and you won't even give him a bye-ball in the difficult circumstances. I think it's really callous.

Oh ffs. Time will tell. She's built no empire yet, let's face it!!

It probably is very true to Meghan, ie more bullshit.

I'm not shocked either that it has sold out - because I reckon there was fuck all of it in the first place!

Well the packaging is shite. Really twee.

WTF does jam or whatever the heck it is need to come in any packaging? Compare and contrast, Harry's "do as I say not as I do" lectures for Travalyst? Travesty more like.

I don't want to buy cheap crap for a high price because of the bloody packaging! Are you mad?!

I loved Rouge Noir too, back in the day!

Does it date me? - I expect that I am much older than you & I think I was late to the party. Actually I might get some for if the sun ever comes out & I shall refer to my pedicure as classic with a vintage twist.

The bugger about Rouge Noir IME was you needed a steady hand. Clear / pale pink / nude - much more forgiving to the non nail painting trained. 😊💅😂

Well I'm 62, though I have no idea how the heck that happened, so... Couldn't do my own nails now - it would be all over the place! I think I had it as a student so early 80s?

Spot the difference !

Forgot the price 9.49

I’m telling you - if the dried flowers are the same as for pet rodents, someone needs to check that shortbread mix. I didn’t hear any talk of shortbread before the launch, but lots of talk about dog biscuits!

The bunnies get much better value :)

It’s basically pot pourri isn’t it?

If only one of us had wasted our money got our hands on some of the As Ever ones we could have done a taste test.