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AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 26/03/2025 09:15

If the charity commission report doesn't go the way H would like then wonder if he'll do the same as Tom Moore's daughter and release a statement calling them liars and awful bullies. Maybe Hannah will lend him her script.

ColourlessGreenIdeasSleepFuriously · 26/03/2025 09:15

Insanely rich people indulging in jollies with an inefficient charity as a figleaf. What a shocker.

I just did a quick search and there were at least six other charities with the same purpose, just on the first page of results. How very efficient. Definitely designed to maximise donations on the ground rather than spunking money on expensive overheads.

CatsChin · 26/03/2025 09:16

This situation looks like a charity nightmare. A volunteer chair suing to stay in post! I cannot see how the problem here lies anywhere but with the chair. If the trustees wanted them to stay, they would stay.

I love being a charity trustee and would recommend it to anyone! But this sort of drama is utterly hideous. Managing volunteers especially can be incredibly difficult.

The rest of it largely doesn't make sense, so I don't think anyone can helpfully comment.

jeffgoldblum · 26/03/2025 09:18

I’m finding this all very odd , he’s stood down publicly and made quite a nasty comment about her “being voluntarily “ .
but he did nothing about African parks!
no statements condemning the awful attacks and rapes!
very odd!

meercat23 · 26/03/2025 09:20

AtIusvue · 26/03/2025 09:01

Yeh he hadn’t visited in 6 years and the income was down.

I really thought Sentebale was close to his heart. Not that close if he hasn’t visited for 6 years.

MrsLeonFarrell · 26/03/2025 09:22

LunaNorth · 26/03/2025 08:55

Harry just can’t function out on his own in the real world, can he?

Utterly institutionalised. He must find life bewildering.

He doesn't seem to have grasped how much support the men in grey suits he loathes actually gave him and his charities. Charity work is hard, hard to set up, hard to manage and hard to be effective, giving vague speeches and playing polo is not enough.

JoyousEagle · 26/03/2025 09:24

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 26/03/2025 09:03

misogynoir’ is a strange word. Surely it should be ‘misomelas’, which would mean ‘dislike of black’ , or I suppose if you want it only to refer to black women ‘misogymelas’ ( taken out the n for elision). Also the Chair’s statement seems to have got into a bit of a muddle about thé charity’s recipients

‘in the spirit of ubuntu: to whom much is given, much is expected.’

Surely she mean ‘From whom much is given…’
Anyway, I suspect this is quite a lot about USAid funding, which has now probably vanished. Whoops!

Misogynoir is a fairly widely used term. I assume coined because it rolls off the tongue easily, and because everyone understands “noir” so it’s easy to work out what misogynoir is.

Thedom · 26/03/2025 09:29

AtIusvue · 26/03/2025 08:42

The Chair contacted the CC over governance issues.

I wonder what came first, her whistleblowing to the CC or her being asked to resign.

viques · 26/03/2025 09:30

MayaKovskaya · 26/03/2025 07:03

It's a shame because it gave him something positive to do.

Perhaps he can join his wife with her new online second hand clothes business. I am pretty sure he could cope with sticking stamps on parcels……….

medlobath · 26/03/2025 09:30

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 26/03/2025 09:03

misogynoir’ is a strange word. Surely it should be ‘misomelas’, which would mean ‘dislike of black’ , or I suppose if you want it only to refer to black women ‘misogymelas’ ( taken out the n for elision). Also the Chair’s statement seems to have got into a bit of a muddle about thé charity’s recipients

‘in the spirit of ubuntu: to whom much is given, much is expected.’

Surely she mean ‘From whom much is given…’
Anyway, I suspect this is quite a lot about USAid funding, which has now probably vanished. Whoops!

Uhhmm, no I think it means "To whom much is given, much is expected." I think you might be in the muddle.
I've goggled and it appears to be a form of a biblical reference but her statement makes complete sense. "To whom much is given, much is expected". Sadly not very common these days but a version of; if you are lucky to be have riches, education, intelligence, for example, then there is an expectation for you to repay society in some way. Think of it like philanthropy.
Your version "from whom much is given" - I'm not sure that even makes sense semantically. Could you explain?

Anyway, more importantly that is one hugely intelligent and eloquent woman. And if she's on the opposite side to Prince HumDum then my money is on her.

sweetgingercat · 26/03/2025 09:32

I don’t think you should assume Harry and his posho white friends as you disparagingly call them got kicked out.

There is a different role for fundraisers in the West who can bring in large sums of money and local program managers who have aid and development and health experience locally.

We have to wait for the report, but In sure it’s more nuanced than you make out.

SirHoglet · 26/03/2025 09:33

NotsosunnyShropshire · 26/03/2025 07:30

I really hope the press do an expose on what has been happening to the women and children there.

What's this about?

AtIusvue · 26/03/2025 09:34

sweetgingercat · 26/03/2025 09:32

I don’t think you should assume Harry and his posho white friends as you disparagingly call them got kicked out.

There is a different role for fundraisers in the West who can bring in large sums of money and local program managers who have aid and development and health experience locally.

We have to wait for the report, but In sure it’s more nuanced than you make out.

It’s says it all there. They are choosing local experts from now on, they’ve made that clear.

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AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 26/03/2025 09:35
Judy Sheindlin GIF by Judge Judy

"Harry and his posho white friends as you disparagingly call them."

SirHoglet · 26/03/2025 09:36

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Southwestten · 26/03/2025 09:36

Op, you sound very gleeful about it.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 26/03/2025 09:37

She's a lawyer, she knows about evidential standards, and she knows she'd have a lot to lose if she raised her case without a good chance of winning/exposing the other side.

How many of the ex-trustees were/are women, do we know?

Can't pre-judge a case obviously, but with his substantial private means and his familiarity with the courts, it's surprising that he wouldn't fight to stay... If you founded something and knew you were right, and had the money to privately protect it, you WOULD stay and fight, right?

I'm very impressed at her statement. I've served as secretary to Charity Trustee meetings and raised complaints to the Chair about Trustee treatment of me, but especially of other staff who were drawn from the charity service users. The Chair heartily agreed with me that one member would go (who was underperforming and was being kicked out anyway), but the other man "didn't mean it, would be ever so sorry to think anyone was upset"... And whose family had happened to have made a substantial donation.

Vespanest · 26/03/2025 09:38

it is interesting reading social media, it does leave a few squirming, Meghan and the racists in the royal family came from Harry as she was not in the room and many have taken that as gospel because Meghan repeated it and here we have a dark skinned African woman being judged on whether she feels her race and sex are being discriminated against and the same people want further information. It seems you can add colorism to misogynoir.

JudgeJ · 26/03/2025 09:38

AtIusvue · 25/03/2025 22:55

Basically, they’ve replaced all the posh white men who don’t even live on the continent, with local experts. How’s that a bad thing Harry?

So the jolly for Harry’s pals is over. No more polo matches! So Harry’s quit!

This just makes him look bad .

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That particular example of 'posh white men' is the reason that the vast majority of us have even heard of this charity however, the same as many charities with royal patronage.

Can we take it that MN will allow sneering comments about 'poor, black women' or is that a silly question?

TizerorFizz · 26/03/2025 09:39

We have far too many charities all doing the same work. If Meghan was interested in this, he would have put more effort in. He needed a front to visit Africa and a charity was the vehicle. Made him look good but his interest wained. It’s not in California is it?

AtIusvue · 26/03/2025 09:40

JudgeJ · 26/03/2025 09:38

That particular example of 'posh white men' is the reason that the vast majority of us have even heard of this charity however, the same as many charities with royal patronage.

Can we take it that MN will allow sneering comments about 'poor, black women' or is that a silly question?

So we all have to be very grateful to the posh white men do we? …..As if.

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AtIusvue · 26/03/2025 09:41

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 26/03/2025 09:37

She's a lawyer, she knows about evidential standards, and she knows she'd have a lot to lose if she raised her case without a good chance of winning/exposing the other side.

How many of the ex-trustees were/are women, do we know?

Can't pre-judge a case obviously, but with his substantial private means and his familiarity with the courts, it's surprising that he wouldn't fight to stay... If you founded something and knew you were right, and had the money to privately protect it, you WOULD stay and fight, right?

I'm very impressed at her statement. I've served as secretary to Charity Trustee meetings and raised complaints to the Chair about Trustee treatment of me, but especially of other staff who were drawn from the charity service users. The Chair heartily agreed with me that one member would go (who was underperforming and was being kicked out anyway), but the other man "didn't mean it, would be ever so sorry to think anyone was upset"... And whose family had happened to have made a substantial donation.

Not only founded, but founded in name of his mother. But he walks away so easily……

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AtIusvue · 26/03/2025 09:43

Southwestten · 26/03/2025 09:36

Op, you sound very gleeful about it.

Gleeful about racism and sexism allegations. I think not.

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CatsChin · 26/03/2025 09:44

> If you founded something and knew you were right, and had the money to privately protect it, you WOULD stay and fight, right?

Not at all - stepping down is very often the appropriate and dignified thing to do, particularly if you need to step down for others to resolve a situation where your (well known) presence is going to add more heat.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/03/2025 09:45

MayaKovskaya · 26/03/2025 07:03

It's a shame because it gave him something positive to do.

I agree, and what with this, the concern over African Parks, issues with Archewell, controversies around Invictus and questions about BetterUp I'm wondering what else will come to light

It was certainly one hell of a statement from Sophie Chandauka, and while she'll naturally aim to put herself in a good light we've yet to learn where the truth really lies

It doesn't look good for Harry though, and more importantly what about those who these charities are supposed to help? Some trustees appear to have done rather well out of it, but then what's to say the "local" people the chair's said to favour for positions would be any better?

So many questions, and as ever few answers ...

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