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mainecooncatonahottinroof · 28/03/2025 17:01

Theeverdisappearingpen55 · 28/03/2025 08:28

It depends doesn’t it? Even quite serious commentators have referred to the Royal Family as dysfunctional.

I certainly think being part of an institution where your father and sibling determine your rank, housing and wage, where family members have separate offices that brief against each other in order to win public favour, where you have to make an appointment to visit your parent, and where historically that parent has favoured his mistress ahead of you, and where any personal relationship is sacrificed on the altar of the survival of said institution, with all of its creaking anachronisms and ridiculous trappings, may be psychologically very stressful.

I think H and M are probably quite relieved that their dc are well out of it.

Is it really substantially different to working for the family business?

I'm not convinced either that the offices brief against each other. Don't most of us make an arrangement to visit our parents rather than just rocking up unannounced? Most of them appear to be in generally happy relationships. There's been breakups like any other family.

If H&M think they are well out of it, why cling on so desperately to the bloody titles?!

Mylovelygreendress · 28/03/2025 17:01

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 28/03/2025 16:53

The whole thing, bar maybe the set up photos, could have been avoided if Meghan had kept her father onside. The more she closed him out, the more bitter he became, and more and more vocal. I don't recall him saying anything about money but I didn't follow it closely so I don't know.

It's beyond bizarre that Harry never met his wife's father. Wasn't it rumoured that the Queen wanted them to go to see Thomas to settle the whole thing down?

I think he became increasingly embittered and he was vengeful then, which to an extent you can understand. His pampered princess baby girl, who he'd brought up single handedly for years had cut him off without so much as a backward glance. Meghan was happy enough to set up photo opportunities. Why was it such a crime that he did the same?

Yes , the late Queen told Harry and Meghan to fly over and sort things out but Meghan refused .

BigWillyLittleTodger · 28/03/2025 17:05

Theeverdisappearingpen55 · Today 08:15
I definitely think Thomas has done worse.
I think any father who appears on a tv documentary and says in so many words, that they have raised their daughter and it’s now time for monetary payback, is not worthy of the name father. Seriously, what loving father says that?

What loving son gets interviewed by Oprah to complain that Daddy cut him off financially at the age of 40, especially when the accounts show he wasn’t, Harry is no better in my opinion and although I agree what TM said publicly was rather crass I can see why he feels a bit aggrieved, he is clearly quite poor and it must be really hurtful that his daughter who is a multi millionaire hasn’t make his final years a bit more comfortable considering what he did for her growing up, if I was Meghan I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night, even if I didn’t want a relationship with him I would make sure he was comfortable and looked after in his old age at the very least.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 28/03/2025 17:06

Theeverdisappearingpen55 · 28/03/2025 08:44

It takes two to tango though doesn’t it?

Harry immediately flew over to see his father after the cancer diagnosis and by all accounts Charles only allowed Harry forty minutes for a meeting.

From what I have observed, The Royal Family is no different to other toxic institutions, in that you have to give up a lot of autonomy when you join it, so it is notoriously difficult for people marrying in, you have to follow the rules at cost to your own psychological wellbeing to remain a member, and you become persona non grata if you dare to reject its so-called values and escape. A bit like the Scientologists and the Amish! 😀 The emotional and financial rejection of those who step away serves to discourage others from doing so. And it enhances the sense of importance and “belonging” of those left behind,

Charles didn't trash the family in public, did he?

I think Harry was fortunate that he agreed to see him at all, at Charles's inconvenience. And then what did Harry do, but spill the beans in public about the meeting?

What a shit he is.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 28/03/2025 17:14

MayaKovskaya · 28/03/2025 15:16

Imagine anyone spending their waking hours complaining that they're a rich white prince 🙄

and posters on here raging at the injustice 🙄😂

smilesy · 28/03/2025 17:19

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 28/03/2025 17:06

Charles didn't trash the family in public, did he?

I think Harry was fortunate that he agreed to see him at all, at Charles's inconvenience. And then what did Harry do, but spill the beans in public about the meeting?

What a shit he is.

Yes. He is indeed succeeding at being a number 2 🤪

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 28/03/2025 17:24

GiveMeSpanakopita · 28/03/2025 09:38

Better Up is a real rabbit hole...loads of allegations of toxicity and bullying. It doesn't seem to be a very happy or pleasant workplace.

Why does that not surprise me...

jeffgoldblum · 28/03/2025 17:25

smilesy · 28/03/2025 17:19

Yes. He is indeed succeeding at being a number 2 🤪

@smilesy🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 28/03/2025 17:26

PopeJoan2 · 28/03/2025 09:44

if he was my dad selling stories on me I would be very mad. And I bet if I wrote to this forum you would all tell me to go NC.

He hadn't sold any stories when Meghan cut him off.

Words · 28/03/2025 17:26

Lilibet. Poor child. Every time I see thé name I cringe inside. It was a sweet private family pet name.

Appropriating it was just appalling. Why not call her Diana and be done with it?

Could easily have been sweetum or snookums or something.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/03/2025 17:27

The whole thing, bar maybe the set up photos, could have been avoided if Meghan had kept her father onside

Wise words, @mainecooncatonahottinroof; it's often the best way with difficult relatives, or even those who aren't difficult but who others have been deemed "unsuitable" in some way

On a similar note I've sometimes wondered what "advice" the Middletons offered Uncle Gary on the run-up to W&K's wedding and would love to have been a fly on the wall Grin

jeffgoldblum · 28/03/2025 17:30

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 28/03/2025 17:26

He hadn't sold any stories when Meghan cut him off.

No as I recall the stories all started after he failed to show the letter ( written with an eye to be seen publicly!) that she sent him , her friends were then forced to reveal snippets of the contents to defend her???!! ( I’m still confused as to why she needed defence from an unseen letter?!!) , that is when he started speaking out , originally to defend himself.. later more critically.

MissRoseDurward · 28/03/2025 17:32

Harry immediately flew over to see his father after the cancer diagnosis and by all accounts Charles only allowed Harry forty minutes for a meeting.

Well he could have waited to find out when would be best for him to come. And not announced it to the world beforehand.

....where you have to make an appointment to visit your parent...

Don't all children of working parents (and parents of working children, come to that) have to plan their visits around the other person's work commitments? Or should Harry just have been permitted to barge in when his father was holding an investiture or meeting a foreign dignitary or about to set off for an engagement in Wallsall or Wigan or Worksop?

'No, I won't be at home on Wednesday. Thursday after 6pm is fine, though.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 28/03/2025 17:38

Munnygirl · 28/03/2025 16:11

Beautifully put especially the bit about William’s super human strength 💪

I wouldn’t mess with William 😂

Harry resigns from Sentebale, the charity he founded!
Serenster · 28/03/2025 17:50

The emotional and financial rejection of those who step away serves to discourage others from doing so. And it enhances the sense of importance and “belonging” of those left behind,

Does this also apply to Diana, Tony Armstrong Jones, Mark Phillips, and Autumn Kelly? Or just Meghan and Harry and Sarah Ferguson?

MayaKovskaya · 28/03/2025 17:51

"emotional and financial rejection" 😂
Yes, Harry and Meghan have been persecuted, right enough 😆

PippistrelleBat · 28/03/2025 17:53

financial rejection

I got financially rejected when I stopped working for my last employer too.

Lunde · 28/03/2025 17:53

MayaKovskaya · 28/03/2025 16:16

Well. You're absolutely right, both about the content and the aims.
What about the USA, what about the treatment of the Native Americans? The USA has a very rich history of colonialism. As does Belgium, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Portugal, the Medieval Islamic Empire, the Vikings, Romans, Greeks etc
So many countries tarnished with the odious trade in human exploitation.
As you say, low fruit, for personal gain.

USA is still trying to be a colonial power - wanting to annex Greenland

MayaKovskaya · 28/03/2025 17:54

PippistrelleBat · 28/03/2025 17:53

financial rejection

I got financially rejected when I stopped working for my last employer too.

True!
I think I'd get emotionally rejected if I slagged loved ones off for money!

MayaKovskaya · 28/03/2025 17:54

Lunde · 28/03/2025 17:53

USA is still trying to be a colonial power - wanting to annex Greenland

Yes. Plus Canada, it would seem.

PippistrelleBat · 28/03/2025 17:58

Lunde · 28/03/2025 17:53

USA is still trying to be a colonial power - wanting to annex Greenland

Not to mention all the colonialism funded by USAID attempting to impose US culture around the world. Whenever you read ‘decolonising’ what is actually happening is colonising.

PippistrelleBat · 28/03/2025 17:59

MayaKovskaya · 28/03/2025 17:54

Yes. Plus Canada, it would seem.

Plus haggling with Putin over Ukraines resources.

IdaGlossop · 28/03/2025 18:01

PippistrelleBat · 28/03/2025 16:47

Academics, even American ones, don’t get paid enough.

In my fantasy scenario, his better brain tells him that the millions inherited from gan-gan, granny and grandpa, and mummy, are sufficient to buy a house big enough for all his books, feed his dogs, and lease a land-rover. Meanwhile, his salary covers food and the purchase of a new pair of cord trousers and acashmere pullover every few years.

MayaKovskaya · 28/03/2025 18:01

PippistrelleBat · 28/03/2025 17:58

Not to mention all the colonialism funded by USAID attempting to impose US culture around the world. Whenever you read ‘decolonising’ what is actually happening is colonising.

Good point

jeffgoldblum · 28/03/2025 18:03

For the love of god let’s not go there!!! , it’s inviting a maelstrom of invaders!

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