Harry resigns from Sentebale, the charity he founded!

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14536443/prince-Harry-resigns-charity-cofounder-leadership-row.html

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The Times

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Oh the irony of this comment. Is t this EXACTLY what h and m have done?

‘It seems extraordinary, but in my experience this kind of in-fighting is all too common when it comes to the third sector. Voluntary work naturally attracts lots of empathetic people, but unfortunately, it also attracts those with far less honourable intentions.For every ten people who are drawn towards the third sector to give back, it seems there's at least one who's only there to take, such as Prince Harry.'

Fixed that for her.

My understanding is that there was a more recent and personal breach of privacy that had just happened beyond OW interview (Mar 21), NF docuseries (Dec 22) Spare autobiography and accompanying promotional interviews (Jan 23), Omid Scobie / Endgame 'racist identified' (Nov 23)

It was reported that KC3 was very upset that a FT call he had with A&L for his birthday (Nov 2023) was then publicised by H&M. KC3 saw the call as a private family call whereas H&M exploited it to reinforce A&L's royal adjacency. He announced his cancer in the Feb 24. I think KC3 was pretty gracious and evidently still offering olive branches and contact despite the relentless onslaught from H&M and their mouth pieces throughout the time he had lost both of his parents. PH had shown he could not be trusted time and time again.

TBH if I were Charles or Kate I would be concerned about talking to H&M for fear that details of my ongoing health battle were made public. Because that has constitutional / political implications as well as personal ones.

There's a long-standing rumour (ie, I heard it before Megxit) in media circles that the real reason that W&K and H&M were visibly not getting on was because on a visit to them, Meghan had been found filming one of the children's bedrooms on her phone. I subsequently heard that it was that incident, not a row over bridesmaid dresses or lip gloss, that was ultimately behind the row that ended up with Harry being tossed across the room onto a dog bowl (which story I doubt, for purely physical reasons - there wasn't a huge weight difference between the brothers at the time and you need to have Hulk-level strength to, from a standing start, flip the equivalent of your own body weight up so that it becomes airbourne and lands with so much force it shatters a dog bowl, which are typically made from hardy material and are shallow, so quite hard to break with a weight coming down from above. I believe there was a row, and there might have been a bit of pushmepullyou, but an aerodynamic feat which breaks the known laws of physics? Unlikely.)

TBF to H&M, William was allegedly not terribly keen on Meghan from his third or fourth time meeting her, like Philip and the Queen he thought she was fine for a girlfriend but not for a wife, and told Harry to slow down, which enraged Harry so much that he sped up and demanded that the wedding take place stat.

And they only lived a couple of hundred miles drive from him for th last 5 years until he moved to Thailand very recently.

MM never wanted TM in her perfect wedding photos - he doesnt compare visually with Michael Middleton and TM would be a record and a reminder to the world of her 'imperfect' background. She also knew he had loose lips and might undo the embellished narrative she had spun - so out he goes never to be seen again. I have no issue with her being cross with him for speaking to the press before the wedding but I think that her DC have missed out and her own reputation has taken a hit and his subsequent media updates could have been avoided. Obviously the relationship was solid before as she wrote how amazing he was in The Tig and hosted him and Doria together for Thanksgiving in 2016 when she was dating Harry. Odd that Harry had never met him.

As recently as 2017 Meghan was posting positive stories about TM. Then....

On a personal level, I don't think I'd marry someone without meeting their parents. You need to know what you're marrying into, right?

Especially as Harry was in such a high profile position. TM was going to walk her down the aisle in front of 2bn viewers. You think he'd want at least a chat.

I think it's all reflective of the rush - almost panicked rush - with which the wedding was held; it happened much more quickly than usual royal engagements. Harry acknowledges and talks about this in Spare, even going so far as to admitting that he and M may have been a little, shall we say, difficult to work with in the run-up, due to the stress of having to get such a big thing sorted so quickly, and due to the slowness (from Harry's perspective) of the Palace.

It's an interesting few paragraphs because, to read Harry telling it, he was so keen to get the wedding done, FAST, that he was almost in a desperate state of mind. He gives no explanation as to the reason for this great haste, although the rumour mill has inevitably furnished a few possibilities.

I do wonder how the dynamic and co-dependency going on between Harry and Meghan would play out if one of them wanted to reconcile with their family. Would the other one encourage it or do everything they could to make it not happen? Is the estrangement from both families a big part of what keeping them in love so to speak.

....Meghan had been found filming one of the children's bedrooms on her phone.

I recall reading that she had been found poking around in areas of Windsor Castle she had no business being in. Whether she thought she was picking out an apartment for herself and H, or gathering footage for Netflix...

Re dogbowl, I can believe W & H were engaging in a bit of shoving - as they probably had done many times before, but this time it was ill-natured - William caught Harry off balance and he ended up on his backside sitting in the dogbowl - and the rest is H's exaggeration.

TBH if I were Charles or Kate I would be concerned about talking to H&M for fear that details of my ongoing health battle were made public. Because that has constitutional / political implications as well as personal ones

Yes, @GiveMeSpanakopita, and that's why it made sense for H&M to hear about Kate's cancer only when the rest of us did

I'm well aware that this was reported rather than said by the couple themselves so would normally avoid it, but I'm pretty damn sure that if it wasn't true there'd have been a clapback about how "such and such called in tears" or whatever

On Harry meeting Thomas to know "what he was marrying into" though, such things might matter to most folk but maybe not so much to the RF who have history for cutting out the inlaws almost completely (the Middletons being the only real exception)
That said, on the basis of normal human empathy I'd expect the groom to have wanted to meet, but who's to say whether or not the idea was blocked?

They are not restranged from the RF. They have been invited and included in the Jubillee, Funerals, Coronation all very close in time to OW, NF, Spare etc. v generous one could conclude.

But they ar at arms length and on a strict information diet. Trust has gone.

I suspect it is very much in H&M brand/commericial interests to push for visible adjacency. Although I suspect this will be rejected by W&C down the line with 'arms length' becoming a 10 ft barge pole. All the risk of reconcilliation is weighted on the BRF as an instituation and all the benefit will be for H&M commercially.

They are not restranged from the RF. They have been invited and included in the Jubillee, Funerals, Coronation all very close in time to OW, NF, Spare etc. v generous one could conclude

It takes two hands to clap and I’m pretty sure that despite the invitations Harry and Meghan consider themselves estranged from the RF.

...not so much to the RF who have history for cutting out the inlaws almost completely

Who was cut out? The Mountbattens weren't, nor the Bowes Lyons.

They are not restranged from the RF. They have been invited and included in the Jubillee, Funerals, Coronation all very close in time to OW, NF, Spare etc. v generous one could conclude

This is true, @JessicaBlabbit, but it's well seen that to the RF their carefully curated image is all, and there's the issue of "being seen to do the right thing" regardless of whether H&M's presence was actually wanted

Hence, I suspect, the deafening silence in response to their more painful allegations, where any response could have led to the situation becoming even uglier
Entertaining maybe, but probably best avoided while they leave H&M to work things out for themselves

Edited to add you're right about Mountbatten, @MissRoseDurward - though good luck to anyone tring to keep him out!! - but I honestly don't recall much of a presence from any of the other inlaws and certainly not since the late Queen's children started getting married
The Phillipses, the Rhys Jonses, Ferguson (except with his "Massage parlours"), the Tindalls, the Kellys, the Brookbanks ... I couldn't even tell you what most of the parents looked like

Nor the Spencers, Rhys Jones, Tindalls.... plus didn't they invite Doria to Sandringham?

I’m sorry if this has been asked before, but is it true that the charity paid for H’s expenses when travelling to polo tournaments?

I felt sorry for Thomas Markle at the point he was photographed being fitted for a suit. His subsequent press campaign made me wonder what type of parent he was. It was relentless and I don't blame Meghan for cutting him off at that point. Neither he or his children seem very stable or nice to be around.

I have never understood the narrative that having family members determine rank, housing and wages of other family member is some sort of miscarriage of justice. Why H is spun as being some sort of exception is a complete mystery given his entire extended family are subject to the exact same rules as he was.

Furthermore, H attended school with plenty of other aristo “spares” who were figuring out their lives with the understanding that they too were not going to inherit an estate. UK aristos either work for siblings who would determine housing and wages or strike out on their own. Most, however, do so without trashing their family of origin.

An obvious example is Prince Richard, current Duke of Gloucester, who the child of a “spare” and also a “spare” himself. He opted out of being a working royal and began a career in architecture. Tragically, his older brother died in a plane crash and R chose to give up his career as an architect and went on to serve his aunt and now his cousin as a working royal.

And it is not just UK aristos. Perhaps H can ask his new Nigerian "in-laws" how inheritance is determined there. In Yoruba culture, the eldest male child, or Dawodu, automatically assumes control, management, and trusteeship of their deceased father’s estate. Sound familiar? Or Igbo culture which follows a patrilineal system where only male children can inherit, with the first son (called the “Okpala”) receiving the lion's share as the new family head. Or Hausa-Fulani culture where family law follows Sharia.

For the first time I find we are at odds @GiveMeSpanakopita

Re thé Mysterious Incident of thé Dog Bowl in the ( oh never mind!)

I can entirely see if there was an unseemly pulling and pushing thing going on in thé kitchen between the brothers it would be very easy for Harry to step back onto a bowl or something, skid, and fall over.

Those things (especially thé lighter kind, not thé Mason Pearson ones) aquaplane like mad on surfaces like quarry tiles. I've done it myself, all on my own! Christ it hurt.

Although my quarry tiles are not elevated with curated designs of precious ink harvested from organic plants on the slopes of the Botswana mountains. So what do I know? 🤣

@PippistrelleBat I agrée that H has had far too much therapy, of thé wrong kind.

Being thé Spare is entirely normal in aristocratic families. It's just the way things are. Rather than inheriting the family estate (or what is left of it), and being saddled with the onerous responsibility of how to make it pay, the spare usually finds another avenue.

It's nothing remotely horrifying or unusual. It's not a term of denigration. Many of his pals at Eton would have been in a similar position.

SNP @My2cents1975 !

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