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Serenster · 27/03/2025 18:24

I don’t want to divert the thread from Sentabale but I thought Camilla Batmangelidjh had been cleared by the High Court?

What I said was that their reputations had been “forever tarnished” by all the interventions and court proceedings, and that none of the people involved in Sentabale presumably want that kind of attention here. And I stand by that comment.

The founder and trustees weren’t ultimately disqualified from being directors, no. But that was just one aspect of the case. There were also damning National Audit Office investigations, and a highly critical Commons Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee report which stated that the Commitee had heard "an extraordinary catalogue of failures of governance and control at every level - trustees, auditors, inspectors, regulators and government". Alan Yentob appeared before the Treasury Select Committee to explain his role in the Charity and was accused by MPs of misusing his position at the BBC to influence coverage of the charity.

The Trustees had the stress and cost of defending High Court claims brought by the Official Receiver personally and having to give evidence to various committees and investigations. No sane person would want that!

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 27/03/2025 18:26

PopeJoan2 · 27/03/2025 17:58

And how is your life going @Atlusvue? Are you wealthy in good healthy with children and a partner who loves you? Have you ever tried to make a difference in a troubled world?

What a strange comment!

I assume you're referring to Harry here, "ever tried to make a difference in a troubled world"? Well pardon me if I'm not massively impressed because this was literally what he was born and reared to do. It's not exactly altruism now is it?!

jeffgoldblum · 27/03/2025 18:30

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 27/03/2025 18:26

What a strange comment!

I assume you're referring to Harry here, "ever tried to make a difference in a troubled world"? Well pardon me if I'm not massively impressed because this was literally what he was born and reared to do. It's not exactly altruism now is it?!

im not impressed either! , if he’s trying, he’s not doing very well on his own without all the nameless little people doing the work for him!
yes those nameless people paid peanuts, who get no recognition while he is soaking up the glory!

Serenster · 27/03/2025 18:58

jac120w · 27/03/2025 18:15

According to CNN she might not have an injuction.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/26/africa/harry-quitting-african-charity-scli-intl-gbr/index.html

The news agency said she claimed she had reported the trustees to the UK’s Charity Commission and that a UK court had issued an injunction to stop her dismissal. CNN has not seen a copy of the alleged injunction from the UK’s High Court. A source familiar with the matter told CNN that no such order had been issued.

A claim has definitely been filed - it’s listed on the (publicly available) court record. That won’t show you if any interim orders, like injunctions, have been made, though.

caseboard.io/cases/df6ce1bb-2cc5-49b3-9a92-41e254f82b06

Thedom · 27/03/2025 19:02

This is what she said in her statement when she responded to Harry and Seesio statement. She didn't mention having an injunction in place.

Why would the High Court of England and Wales accept her application to hear the matter at all if the case had no merit?

I read elsewhere, maybe The Times, that because the vote to oust her didn't go ahead and the trustees resigned, there was no need for the court to proceed with her application..

AtIusvue · 27/03/2025 19:03

Bryony Gordon, making an absolute embarrassment of herself. Basically, Harry just really really cares.

‘It seems extraordinary, but in my experience this kind of in-fighting is all too common when it comes to the third sector. Voluntary work naturally attracts lots of empathetic people such as Prince Harry, but unfortunately, it also attracts those with far less honourable intentions.For every ten people who are drawn towards the third sector to give back, it seems there's at least one who's only there to take.’

She then goes on at length to talk Captain Toms daughter, Naomi Campbell, Kids company and all their dodgy charity dealings. Almost like she’s implying that DrC fits into this category…..it’s def not Harry she’s talking about.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-14543857/BRYONY-GORDON-Harry-charity-boss-claims.html#

https://archive.ph/nIlOw

BRYONY GORDON: The Harry I know will be heartbroken over charity

The thing I have always admired about Prince Harry - the thing that makes me raise my head above the parapet to stick up for him time and time again - is that he cares.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-14543857/BRYONY-GORDON-Harry-charity-boss-claims.html#

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Serenster · 27/03/2025 19:04

That record shows you that the claim was filed on 5 March 2025 and something happened on March 13 that added to the file. It wasn’t the defendants filing an acknowledgement of service, because if they had done so, their solicitors would be listed on the record along with the claimants’ solicitors (Cole Khan - whistleblowing specialists).

So the record is consistent with an ex party injunction being granted after the claim was filed on- but others things could have happened too!

AtIusvue · 27/03/2025 19:06

PopeJoan2 · 27/03/2025 17:58

And how is your life going @Atlusvue? Are you wealthy in good healthy with children and a partner who loves you? Have you ever tried to make a difference in a troubled world?

😂

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Serenster · 27/03/2025 19:07

Surely this can’t be Prince Harry, famed condemnor of the "leaking and... planting of stories" as part of a "dirty press game" leaning on sympathetic journalist Bryony Gordon to try and undermine the claimant….

Thedom · 27/03/2025 19:07

Serenster · 27/03/2025 18:58

A claim has definitely been filed - it’s listed on the (publicly available) court record. That won’t show you if any interim orders, like injunctions, have been made, though.

caseboard.io/cases/df6ce1bb-2cc5-49b3-9a92-41e254f82b06

That is interesting timing Serenster, She filed that on March 5th, she said nothing and no one knew anything until March 26th when Harry and Seesio announced they were resigning.

It explains her comment about Harry using the media he claims to hate.

Thedom · 27/03/2025 19:07

cross post @Serenster

Munnygirl · 27/03/2025 19:10

PopeJoan2 · 27/03/2025 17:58

And how is your life going @Atlusvue? Are you wealthy in good healthy with children and a partner who loves you? Have you ever tried to make a difference in a troubled world?

You need to stop making this personal it’s kinda sad you go down this road. I can tell you that H and M have made NO difference in this troubled world

SoNotaRealHousewife · 27/03/2025 19:12

@MunnygirlNow that’s not true…. They have provided hours of entertainment

Munnygirl · 27/03/2025 19:13

SoNotaRealHousewife · 27/03/2025 19:12

@MunnygirlNow that’s not true…. They have provided hours of entertainment

Well I was thinking of adding that but I don’t want to upset people who are already pretty mad. 😆

Serenster · 27/03/2025 19:14

Thedom · 27/03/2025 19:07

cross post @Serenster

Good point that Dr Chandauka appears to have taken no steps to proactively publicise the litigation in the more than 3 weeks since it was filed.

Newspapers have journalists who check the court lists every day to see if any interesting cases have been filed, so this will have come up as a newly filed claim at some stage. As Prince Harry obviously has a high profile this will have doubtless led straight away to journalists querying both Dr Chandauka and Sentabale. Do we know when all the resignations actually happened? After or before the claim was filed?

Lunde · 27/03/2025 19:18

Serenster · 27/03/2025 18:58

A claim has definitely been filed - it’s listed on the (publicly available) court record. That won’t show you if any interim orders, like injunctions, have been made, though.

caseboard.io/cases/df6ce1bb-2cc5-49b3-9a92-41e254f82b06

Interesting that the link shows she filed it on March 5th - which is 3 weeks before the resignations

BasiliskStare · 27/03/2025 19:22

Slightly off track here but I think ubuntu is such a fabulous word.

"in the spirit of ubuntu: to whom much is given, much is expected " From Dr Chandauka's statement. I know that wording is from the bible and I don't know the exact translation but what a lot that word conveys. I can't think of an equivalent word in English and we have a rich language. I suppose why we have had to nick "noblesse oblige" from the French. I think Harry's keener on the noblesse than he is on the oblige. 😊

Thedom · 27/03/2025 19:34

The new trustees were appointed on March 25th, not sure if Sentebale were without trustees for a few weeks or not, I don't know if that is even legally possible.

TenInchNails · 27/03/2025 19:38

I've had a nosey at the Lesotho social media chat around this and unsurprisingly there's little support for Dr Chandauka.

AnnaMagnani · 27/03/2025 19:44

Interesting @TenInchNails

Nobody in Lesotho is going to see a woman, however highly qualified, from Zimbabwe as local talent.

Even using the word Ubuntu isn't going to work for a Sesotho speaker. It's for the international audience.

TenInchNails · 27/03/2025 19:46

Exactly. Lots of people saying could they not find someone local. A few comments unfortunately a bit sexist in nature also.

EsmaCannonball · 27/03/2025 19:50

Harry is notoriously tight-fisted with his own money and polo is expensive. I wonder if there was a clash over how much the charity was funding his luxury hobby and it has particularly come to a head now that he is having to fund more of his own lifestyle?

StartupRepair · 27/03/2025 19:56

I agree that Harry thinks that 'doing good' means going somewhere, shaking hands and hugging, playing with kids and listening with concern to people's stories. I can't picture him thinking about governance, accountability, sustainability, listening to experts or even reading board papers.

AnnaMagnani · 27/03/2025 20:01

Sadly not suprised by the sexism.

People I met it difficult to know what to call me as the naming conventions are to greet you as 'Girl' or for an adult woman 'Mother son's first name'. Obvs Girl and Mother are said in Sesotho.

Even the female doctors and senior nurses were all 'Mother son's first name'.

It was interesting wathcing people panic as they clearly couldn't call me Girl but WTF were they supposed to say!

I don't know if this is less of a thing in Maseru but it was completely normal in rural areas.

Dr Chaudauka isn't Basotho, hasn't spent her career in Lesotho and honestly would have more respect for being 'Mother son's name' than her PhD.

TenInchNails · 27/03/2025 20:11

It's less bad in more urban areas, especially now. In Mafeteng you'd probably have been called Dr Anna, Dr Firstname was the convention for our friends working at Mafeteng hospital, for both sexes.

Also among more educated, middle class people attitudes are much more modern, which is I'm sure a fairly global phenomenon.

When i was in the Middle East I got called Mrs Husbandsfirstname. Sigh.

I will say the sexism comments weren't virulent, more just mimping about too much feminism these days kind of thing.

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