A genuinely nice and friendly thread about Meghan

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Hi everyone! As suggested on another thread, I’m starting this to provide some balance to the MM / MS threads which have been perceived as bullying and not joyful.

So please feel free to join in and share something pleasant and joyful about your day or any comments about MM / MS as an antidote if the other threads have caused you upset. Please be nice!

I’ll begin by saying that writing notes by hand is a lovely thing to do, and conveys sincerity beyond any effusive email or text message. And nice handwriting is a bonus! Hand cramp is a problem of the digital age.

Also, I’ve watched two episodes of the series now, and I love the garden plants in California. Waiting for the spring to bloom here!

You did compare. @FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger has said made it clear they are not interested in any discussion with you and you continue to goad them about their lived experience of racism. I think that’s enough don’t you?

Honestly?!!
so it wasn’t a mistake?
you actually think poc people deserve racist abuse because they criticise Meghans behaviour!
I actually have nothing to say , I’m actually shocked you would say this and mean it on a public forum

Oprah ( the same one who walked in , interrupted and loitered about the front row during Meghan's speech at the bookstore) is a snake and is reinforcing her position as Queen Bee showing she believes she has the power over the relevant community in the USA. She's marking her card. " Here let me show you this trier who I am hoping I get the disaster interview from".

Fucking hell, for the hard of thinking:

Calling someone a P* is abuse and racism.

Calling MM out on her lies and other poor conduct is not abuse and not racism. It's called justified criticism of a public and political figure.

Seems like the false dichotomy sunk deep into some heads.

@jeffgoldblum thank you for trying to explain. I wouldn't bother though.

I didn't say they deserve racist abuse. I said, quoting the poster who wrote that they wouldnt inflict negative things on other people, why do they then I flict negative things about megahn if they just said they wouldn't do it.

Honestly @Spectre8

I didn't compare. I took a sentence they wrote in a post that didn't not speak to racism but was a statement from that poster saying they woudknt inflict negative things on other people.

If that poster doesn't want a discussion neither me it's the first I knew of it. Besides if people dotn want to engage then don't. I'm not going to be keeping tabs on who wants to reply to me or not, thats silly. It's a forum anyone can make a comment on what is commented.

Why don't you stop twisting what I'm commenting on.

Yeah they should be honest in that they are hypocritical in saying they wouldn't inflict negative things on others but proceed to do it anyway. 💁‍♀️

Too late! , everyone saw what you posted, I even gave you the benefit of the doubt but you didn’t take it .
you should apologise to @FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger!
im afraid I can’t respond or acknowledge anymore of your posts .
please don’t tag me again.

I’m sorry @FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger, I had hoped by spelling it out , that she would see what she was actually saying and correct herself.

Lol i quoted the poster what they wrote...? Their words not mine. Don't make grandiose statements about not inflicting negative things on other people if then go write multiple negative comments about someone.

In the first instance I didn’t accuse you of bullying. I meant yours as a general term for those who have posted not yours individually. I understand your comments perfectly well so please don’t go down what seems to be a popular road on this thread. Whilst none of your threads have been deleted and neither have mine, other people from this thread have had their posts deleted for infractions on the Mumsnet rules. My point which I thought was quite clear in the beginning is that anyone can comment on any thread with their opinion. This is what I have done. You obviously don’t agree with my opinion and would probably prefer I was off this thread. But I am free to share my opinion as long as it is not bullying towards another poster. A lot of these post have been bullying in nature towards people who don’t share your or others opinion and the proof of that is in the deletions. I am happy to have a civilised debate but attempted bullying I will not put up with.

Oh and do show me where I wrote that poster deserved racial abuse? Oh wait you can't because I never did

You have really gone too far and I’m not sure you can see the wood for the trees with you comment

That not true. @FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger said to you that she didn’t want a further discussion with you but you clapped back. Why? It was obviously to goad her. I would suggest that you don’t engage with them any longer.

Hahaha okay. I'm not the one ripping apart a woman i don't really know over everything they do and then making bignstatements that I don't inflict negative things on others

Or do you think that is okay? Do you think it's okay to say i don't inflict negative things on others and then go ahead making negative comments about someone?

I honestly think you need to take a step back here. Please do not interact with me anymore either

So you don't want to respond to my question then so I'll assume you think it is okay then. Strange you won't answer it. Then again you put out alot of negative things about her to so not surprising if your okay about that

It's forum I'll respond to comments I want to. You can choose to not respond back anymore but you don't get to dictate what I should do

Then don’t dictate to me or anyone else.

Well so much for a positive thread about Meghan.

I wasn’t talking about your post.

In regard to this bit of my post that you have chosen to quote and highlight:

“Or do some posters just think they can say whatever and no one should challenge them?”

I was making the point that it wasn’t the people who don’t have a problem with Meghan that bought up the two topics of ‘accusations of Meghan being a bully’ and ‘accusations of racism’ on this thread.

Now, I believe that the rest of your post addresses the Muslim Council of Britain’s statement that I posted?

1. It’s a fact that Harry has said sorry, and no one else has. Another poster later said he had not apologised publicly for saying the ‘p’ word and I agreed. At no point did I say all people need to accept the apology. nor did I assume they had.

I do not believe any group of people have a hive mind. If that was what you think I meant by my posting of the comment from the Muslim Council of Britain? It was not my intention to convey that. My apologies if I’ve not been clear. That is not my belief.

And I did not tell anyone to move on from this. I’m not sure why you think I did? If that’s the meaning I’ve conveyed then I apologise for that. That was never my intent. I seriously don’t think I did say to move on from this.

In regard to the Royal Family:

It is my opinion, that neither the Royal Family generally nor their advisors seem to be able consider the racist history of colonialism adequately, and they really need to - if the commonwealth of nations is going to continue to have the British Monarch as its head. And if Charles, or William in turn, is to remain head of state of a number of those countries. I suspect their inability to grapple with this effectively will be the thing that ends much of it. This is my opinion.

When or if Charles or William, as Monarch and head of the Royal Family, eventually apologise to the Indigenous Peoples of the previous British colonised countries for their family’s condoning of colonization in the past, and the vast wealth they accrued from colonization, I am fairly confident some of the people they are apologising to will accept it, and others will turn their back. As is their right to do.

Harry is a product of his environment. I didn’t say he was a victim because of it. We are all responsible for our own actions.

But you are defending him of sorts by saying he is a product of his environment rather than just saying he should never had said those things.We are all responsible for what comes out of our own mouths and you can not blame the environment l. Though I am glad to see you included the part of all being responsible for our own actions because that is very true

I disagree. I have admired Oprah for many years.

I don’t think she’s a ‘snake’ or reinforcing her position of Queen Bee. She is a Queen Bee. 😂
No reinforcement needed.

Harry has done nothing to acknowledge or help to solve the African Parks atrocities. Interesting how everyone seems to ignoring the situation.