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A genuinely nice and friendly thread about Meghan

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MonteShitshow · 21/03/2025 15:09

Hi everyone! As suggested on another thread, I’m starting this to provide some balance to the MM / MS threads which have been perceived as bullying and not joyful.

So please feel free to join in and share something pleasant and joyful about your day or any comments about MM / MS as an antidote if the other threads have caused you upset. Please be nice!

I’ll begin by saying that writing notes by hand is a lovely thing to do, and conveys sincerity beyond any effusive email or text message. And nice handwriting is a bonus! Hand cramp is a problem of the digital age.

Also, I’ve watched two episodes of the series now, and I love the garden plants in California. Waiting for the spring to bloom here!

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MrsLeonFarrell · 24/03/2025 17:50

BasiliskStare · 24/03/2025 15:29

I think some articles about Meghan are just lazy and obviously space filling nonsense. Here's an example. In the last few days there was an article where a graphologist analysed the note Meghan sent to that podcaster. Now I think at best graphology is considered a "pseudo science". Personally I'd call it hogwash.

Anyway it just seemed to me that this woman knew what she wanted to say about Meghan - a lot of it unflattering - and just made stuff up from this short note. It irritated me. Maybe some people do believe you can tell someone's personality from their handwriting , I don't. I just thought this was lazy journalism for clicks. I haven't attached it but if anyone is interested I either can or you can Google graphology and Meghan and Daily Mail and you'll find it.

Now I was mildly irritated. Will Meghan give a Monty Shit , wandering round her garden in the sunshine picking fruit and watching the hummingbirds? Of course not but it's an example of the sort of article I do not like.

Well , I've got that off my chest 😂

The Mail is currently reduced to rehashing of news about the Sussexes from when the Queen died. They must be desperate for clicks, it's pathetic.

BasiliskStare · 24/03/2025 18:06

@shockthemonkey and @Spectre8 I've got different styles of handwriting too. If you compared mine when I'm writing a letter or a birthday card or a short note - one thing. Writing minutes when I'm just writing as fast as I can to not miss anything quite another - indeed the latter is so unfamiliar to me I find it hard to read it myself when I come to type it up 😂.

My son is dyslexic and in the past has struggled with handwriting. He's not too bad now but he's managed to find a way of writing which is quick enough and (mostly) legible. I don't believe that writing says anything about his personality at all. It might say he keeps very small spiders and dips them in ink before letting them crawl all over the page but as a arachnophobe I can tell you he doesn't in this house

Her "calligraphy" I'm not sure is true calligraphy , more her handwriting with some distinctive flourishes added - but it doesn't matter. It looks pretty and it is utterly harmless if she wants to make her notes or a menu or place cards etc look nice.

I do think there are things Meghan can be criticised for and I think there is quite a lot, but to me making stuff up about her handwriting to have a go at her diminishes the proper criticism. And there will be things which some people think deserve criticism and some who don't. I am of the view she puts out quite a lot about herself and she does need to some extent to be able to live with the flack but not saying she's vain or insecure or some such based on her handwriting - I cry bollocks to that. 🖋🖋🖋

NB All opinions are my own - others are available 😊

mynameisausername · 24/03/2025 18:37

I think she seems like a nice person.

She clearly irks so many people on here though - given so many (on this thread alone) all seem intent to smear every little thing she does to an obsessive degree, they are the ones losing out - funny that these people spend so much time being angry about her, writing horrible comments and generally avoiding their own lives because they are so obsessed. It's weird.

If you spend so much of your emotions and life hating on and smearing someone you've never met, you deserve to be miserable and unhappy. There really are no benefits to each one of you who are hating on this one person so much. You only stand to lose on a personal level by being so irked and nasty all the time. These behaviours crystallise your behaviour over time and you'll end up even more unhappy and angry.

MaturingCheeseball · 24/03/2025 21:31

But many, many people don’t think she seems like a nice person at all. Examples are far too numerous to mention, but I’ll just say “Oprah”.

RevolutionaryMode · 24/03/2025 23:26

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 24/03/2025 11:02

In re-enactment of a previous royal visit. The people who asked them to get in the Landrover were their hosts. Harry and Meghan stood on a balcony in Fiji in a similar pose in re-enactment of a previous royal visit. Prince Harry inspected troops in Nigeria last year in what can also be interpreted as a colonial looking inspection.

It supports my opinion that the RF and their advisors are failing in this regard.

RevolutionaryMode · 24/03/2025 23:50

I’ve come back after more than 13 hours and have not yet finished reading the full thread. So if the following has been pointed out in the many pages that followed my last post, pay no attention to this post. These are the first posts I can find on this thread that referred to Meghan being a bully and to the racism accusation. Posted by posters who don’t like Meghan and/or Harry.

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Munnygirl · 22/03/2025 17:22
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RevolutionaryMode · 22/03/2025 17:04
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A bit like how they both accused the RF of racism
without any proof

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MyWiseGoose · 21/03/2025 15:23
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If she's such a nice person why are there reports of her being a massive bully both in the UK and the US? I can't muster to say anything nice about a bully, sorry.

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If posters don’t want clap back on these topics then I suggest they don’t introduce them - on a thread that is supposed to “A genuinely nice and friendly thread about Meghan”

Or do some posters just think they can say whatever and no one should challenge them?

RevolutionaryMode · 25/03/2025 00:12

WatchedEverything · 24/03/2025 10:58

Enjoy the last episode. What are you cooking?

A multi vegetable soup with home made chicken stock and cream put in last. I love fresh vegetables and the selections of vegetables we’ve seen spread out on the kitchen bench in WLM look like ‘perfection.’

I’m moderately successful growing herbs, with four large pots on the terrace. I’m thinking of growing tomatoes next because there is nothing like homegrown tomatoes - my aunt used to grow them and we’d get buckets full of sweet red tomatoes from her to make pasta sauce, or just eat tomato with salt and a bit of olive oil on crusty bread. That was many years ago - my young son used to run around (outside) eating her tomatoes like they were apples.

mynameisausername · 25/03/2025 00:13

MaturingCheeseball · 24/03/2025 21:31

But many, many people don’t think she seems like a nice person at all. Examples are far too numerous to mention, but I’ll just say “Oprah”.

you just can't resist the dig.

RevolutionaryMode · 25/03/2025 00:38

FixThisKindOfFeeling · 24/03/2025 12:56

I’ve read the whole thread now and I must say, it is great to get some balance as the RF board is usually very one sided with most posters disliking Meghan. I’ve read threads about Meghan and Harry on other boards of mumsnet which show that the dislike does not carry through to mumsnet as a whole, which is quite revealing. I think that some of the posters on the RF board are so used to their echo chamber that they find it difficult when they’re confronted with other views.

Its not something I discuss often in real life, but when I have, most people don’t have any strong feelings either way on Meghan and Harry and I think we must remember that the RF board could give the impression that everyone is against Meghan and Harry, when it’s not the case at all. Out of my friends and family, some think Meghan and Harry were right to talk about what they’ve been through, some think they would have been best to keep things private, but they all agree that the obsessive hating of her from some corners is OTT, and is, or at least verges on bullying.

I think the whole situation must have been very upsetting for Meghan, Harry and the rest of the Royals and I hope that even if relationships can never be recovered, that each are able to move on and be happy. Families are complicated and tricky. Meghan and Harry seem to be doing very well and always look very in love and hopefully Kate will continue to recover from her illness and her and William will go on to do good things in future. We don’t always have to have a goodie and a baddie, people are complex.

Love this!

RevolutionaryMode · 25/03/2025 01:06

Maitri108 · 24/03/2025 16:28

As we see so often, unfortunately there are people who lap this sort of thing up as it’s anything to hate on certain people.

Oddly it's always women being analysed. I don't remember anyone analysing Johnny Depp's handwriting. No one analysed Andrew's handwriting. Just women.

Exactly.

Munnygirl · 25/03/2025 07:35

RevolutionaryMode · 24/03/2025 23:50

I’ve come back after more than 13 hours and have not yet finished reading the full thread. So if the following has been pointed out in the many pages that followed my last post, pay no attention to this post. These are the first posts I can find on this thread that referred to Meghan being a bully and to the racism accusation. Posted by posters who don’t like Meghan and/or Harry.

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Munnygirl · 22/03/2025 17:22
^^
RevolutionaryMode · 22/03/2025 17:04
^^
A bit like how they both accused the RF of racism
without any proof

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MyWiseGoose · 21/03/2025 15:23
^^
If she's such a nice person why are there reports of her being a massive bully both in the UK and the US? I can't muster to say anything nice about a bully, sorry.

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If posters don’t want clap back on these topics then I suggest they don’t introduce them - on a thread that is supposed to “A genuinely nice and friendly thread about Meghan”

Or do some posters just think they can say whatever and no one should challenge them?

Anyone can have an opinion which can be challenged and you yourself have challenged comments. When the comments have attempted to bully someone for having an opinion that is different to yours Mum’snet has removed them as they are against their rules. This is a discussion page where anyone can join in. You don’t need a code word and a secret handshake in order to join.

MonteShitshow · 25/03/2025 09:08

@RevolutionaryMode if you have a sunny terrace without too many birds, tomatoes would be an awesome pot crop. I once grew some from a few tomatoes which tasted superb- I took some of their seeds out and the tomatoes that grew tasted equally good. I loved spotting new baby tomatoes hidden between leaves.

I hope your herbs flourish!

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FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 25/03/2025 10:20

Or do some posters just think they can say whatever and no one should challenge them?

OK @RevolutionaryMode. I'm only on this thread because you posted a quotation from the Muslim Council of Britain about Harry using the term P* and telling people to move on. I found that highly offensive. I don't know why you might think they speak for all Muslims, never mind all people who have had that slur hurled at them, who include people of non Pakistani/Muslim ancestry like me. Smacks of all brown people should have a hive mind and we are all the same. No we're not. And no, I don't accept Harry's apologies and excuses, and I don't accept his blaming his family for his own conduct as an adult with a multi-cultural education and holding a high office. Plenty of us grew up hearing and experiencing all sorts of negative and abusive things, and we have not and do not inflict them on others. I'm sick of the victimhood narrative from people who have everything within their means to be and do better.

Munnygirl · 25/03/2025 10:33

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 25/03/2025 10:20

Or do some posters just think they can say whatever and no one should challenge them?

OK @RevolutionaryMode. I'm only on this thread because you posted a quotation from the Muslim Council of Britain about Harry using the term P* and telling people to move on. I found that highly offensive. I don't know why you might think they speak for all Muslims, never mind all people who have had that slur hurled at them, who include people of non Pakistani/Muslim ancestry like me. Smacks of all brown people should have a hive mind and we are all the same. No we're not. And no, I don't accept Harry's apologies and excuses, and I don't accept his blaming his family for his own conduct as an adult with a multi-cultural education and holding a high office. Plenty of us grew up hearing and experiencing all sorts of negative and abusive things, and we have not and do not inflict them on others. I'm sick of the victimhood narrative from people who have everything within their means to be and do better.

👏

Spectre8 · 25/03/2025 10:37

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 25/03/2025 10:20

Or do some posters just think they can say whatever and no one should challenge them?

OK @RevolutionaryMode. I'm only on this thread because you posted a quotation from the Muslim Council of Britain about Harry using the term P* and telling people to move on. I found that highly offensive. I don't know why you might think they speak for all Muslims, never mind all people who have had that slur hurled at them, who include people of non Pakistani/Muslim ancestry like me. Smacks of all brown people should have a hive mind and we are all the same. No we're not. And no, I don't accept Harry's apologies and excuses, and I don't accept his blaming his family for his own conduct as an adult with a multi-cultural education and holding a high office. Plenty of us grew up hearing and experiencing all sorts of negative and abusive things, and we have not and do not inflict them on others. I'm sick of the victimhood narrative from people who have everything within their means to be and do better.

Plenty of us grew up hearing and experiencing all sorts of negative and abusive things, and we have not and do not inflict them on others

Except you do inflict negative things about Meghan on this board 💁‍♀️

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 25/03/2025 10:40

Let me make this very clear to you once again @Spectre8 . I am not interested in anything you have to say.

DeirdreDarling · 25/03/2025 10:42

I agree @FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger - if I remember correctly this pki and rghed racial slur came years after his Nazi episode. With the Nazi episode there was a full programme of rehab talking to a Rabbi and an apology. With the pki / rghed incident years later he was a grown man in his mid 20s - there was no such apology or even acknowlegment from PH directly until nearly 20 years later ..... and the motive - one might conclude - was so that he could clear his name enough to be credible to chastise the press on racist coverage of his wife (legitimate) - rather than any concerns for the individual on the receiving end of his racist abuse or the many other communities offended and disgusted by his behaviour.

jeffgoldblum · 25/03/2025 10:43

Spectre8 · 25/03/2025 10:37

Plenty of us grew up hearing and experiencing all sorts of negative and abusive things, and we have not and do not inflict them on others

Except you do inflict negative things about Meghan on this board 💁‍♀️

Are you seriously comparing warranted criticism of Meghan.
to actually receiving racism and abuse to a poc?!
this is victim blaming at it’s worst.

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 25/03/2025 10:45

DeirdreDarling · 25/03/2025 10:42

I agree @FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger - if I remember correctly this pki and rghed racial slur came years after his Nazi episode. With the Nazi episode there was a full programme of rehab talking to a Rabbi and an apology. With the pki / rghed incident years later he was a grown man in his mid 20s - there was no such apology or even acknowlegment from PH directly until nearly 20 years later ..... and the motive - one might conclude - was so that he could clear his name enough to be credible to chastise the press on racist coverage of his wife (legitimate) - rather than any concerns for the individual on the receiving end of his racist abuse or the many other communities offended and disgusted by his behaviour.

Absolutely, @DeirdreDarling . From the outset of their relationship, he set up the false dichotomy that you are either with them or a racist. He could only do that from a position of absolving himself by establishing his own racism as a form of victimhood.

Edit for typo

Spectre8 · 25/03/2025 10:49

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 25/03/2025 10:40

Let me make this very clear to you once again @Spectre8 . I am not interested in anything you have to say.

Okay and? I can still lreapond to your comments

jeffgoldblum · 25/03/2025 10:53

Spectre8 · 25/03/2025 10:49

Okay and? I can still lreapond to your comments

Do you realise that you have just posted to a poc poster the equivalent of saying.. she deserves to be called racist names because she has criticised Meghan?
im assuming you didn’t really mean to post what you did?

BasiliskStare · 25/03/2025 10:56

I've got another example of another article about Meghan which I don't think we needed. . Two days ago there was an article (entitled The surprising royal protocol rule Meghan Markle broke and how it was 'disrespectful' to the Queen) based on a "resurfaced" clip of Meghan at the Young Leaders Awards Ceremony at Buckingham Palace in June 2018. Well - perhaps enough said already. Apparently she was criticised for a protocol faux pas by crossing her legs and this reportedly by some Royal fans showed "disrespect to the Queen." Meghan is sitting , albeit it with crossed legs , with a demure hem length. She was hardly channeling her inner Sharon Stone 😂. In fairness they did show Camilla , Diana , Kate sitting with crossed legs.

It wasn't harshly critical - in fact probably as much pointing out some of these strange protocols as anything - but the headline did seem to imply that M had been disrespectful in a way that I don't think most people would have recognised as such. It's not the worst thing but just at the moment Meghan is doing enough I think to warrant articles about her current activities , (whatever the view ) not dragging stuff up from seven years ago. But hey ho

Spectre8 · 25/03/2025 10:57

jeffgoldblum · 25/03/2025 10:43

Are you seriously comparing warranted criticism of Meghan.
to actually receiving racism and abuse to a poc?!
this is victim blaming at it’s worst.

Well maybe that poster should write that they don't inflict negative things on other ppl. It's not about comparing at all. If you are going to make such a statement make sure you actually don't do it yourself first.

RevolutionaryMode · 25/03/2025 11:01

Munnygirl · 25/03/2025 07:35

Anyone can have an opinion which can be challenged and you yourself have challenged comments. When the comments have attempted to bully someone for having an opinion that is different to yours Mum’snet has removed them as they are against their rules. This is a discussion page where anyone can join in. You don’t need a code word and a secret handshake in order to join.

I didn’t bully anyone.

As far as I’ve seen, none of my posts have been deleted.

I was pointing out that those who don’t dislike Meghan did not bring up the racism or bullying topics first on this thread. I was not referring in any way to any bullying that may have happened between posters on this thread, if that’s what you are saying?

I don’t understand your ‘code word or secret handshake comment. And you don’t seem to understand my posts either.