A genuinely nice and friendly thread about Meghan

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Hi everyone! As suggested on another thread, I’m starting this to provide some balance to the MM / MS threads which have been perceived as bullying and not joyful.

So please feel free to join in and share something pleasant and joyful about your day or any comments about MM / MS as an antidote if the other threads have caused you upset. Please be nice!

I’ll begin by saying that writing notes by hand is a lovely thing to do, and conveys sincerity beyond any effusive email or text message. And nice handwriting is a bonus! Hand cramp is a problem of the digital age.

Also, I’ve watched two episodes of the series now, and I love the garden plants in California. Waiting for the spring to bloom here!

By saying

But, of course, some would argue that we don't actually know these police officers, so shouldn't criticise.

you are presumably referring to people that say the obsessive criticism of Meghan should stop because people don’t know her, otherwise what is the relevance of your comment.

I don’t know anyone that would say we don’t know these police officers so they shouldn’t be criticised, when they pleaded guilty, there was evidence and they should be held to higher account due to their previous jobs.

So yes, you were trying to compare people saying Meghan shouldn’t be criticised, (which no one really says anyway, it’s just the level and type of criticism that is the issue, the mocking etc) with these police officers. That is madness.

I’ve never said Phillip didn’t utter disgraceful remarks. The difference is Harry filmed himself doing it

Views based on what she has physically said and been recorded saying as well as the places visited and been recorded visiting. There is no reportedly about it

This

what I find a bit odd is your absolute refusal to believe that people have derived their opinion about Harry and Megan from the numerous books, podcasts, interviews, reality shows that they have taken part in. Words from their own mouths recorded for prosperity. It is not taken from tabloid media.

6 racist policemen. Tabloid headings like ‘straight out of Compton’ and ‘niggling’, and an article about Meghan, the Hubb Kitchen mosque and terrorists. 2 white supremacists planning to kill Meghan. Powder that looked like a toxin sent to Meghan at a palace. That’s not all but it’s what I can recall st this moment. Is any wonder Meghan feels her time in the UK was over shadowed by racism? Oh yes, I nearly forgot, Archie compared to a baby ape. It’s a wonder she did not leave earlier.

Meghan says silly things occasionally, and she contradicts herself at times, and it also seems like she may embroider stories sometimes (this last bit I’m not 100% sure about but it’s likely. I can’t - nor do I want to - sift through the mountain ranges of critical shit that’s made up about her in order to work it out - if anyone even could do that at this point.) But these things are what most of us do. And for some reason those things are trumpeted as evidence that she’s an evil woman, a liar and so on. I think if someone was tracking every word any other person said they’d find they also say silly things, contradict themselves and some even embroider stories about themselves to make them more interesting. It’s all human behaviour and really quite common. And it doesnt make you a bad person, just human.

One day I may recall my working life as intense, and too much hard work and usually horrible. Another day I might relate a story about how much fun it was to sit in the office laughing and talking with fellow workers and talk happily about my working life. The stories are contradictory but both are true. I, however, don’t have anyone recording everything I say in the newspapers or on sm and screaming liar when I recall a different memory of the same thing. The amount of surveillance Meghan is under is extraordinary.

Harry and Philips behaviour was racist, as was the woman’s who wore a racist brooch. Philip would have been aware he was on camera as would the woman wearing the brooch. It proves that there is racism in that family, that it’s something they feel comfortable expressing, even when they know they are being seen by the world. That is the reason it’s believable that there were concerns expressed over a child’s skin colour. If they’re happy to be racist publicly and let that stand, then doing so in private would be no problem at all for them.

It's not the tabloid gossip and speculation that's calling out MM's appalling behaviour - its dozens of her very own staff (including a current senior colleague) who have consistently reported experiencing or witnessing the distressing impact this has had on them personally.

Four separate, independent investigations by credible publications Vanity Fair (last month), The Hollywood Reporter (6 months ago) The Times and Courtiers have collated consistent testimonies from numerous victims and witnesses over many years.

Some victims have been reported to have been hounded from their jobs whilst others have needed to seek professional help for the emotional impact of MM's behaviour.

These reports would have undergone rigorous legal tests before publication to avoid libel claims. Its telling that the characteristically highly litigious focus of these reports has not taken legal action to challange the reports in order to uphold their reputation.

I think there is a double standard here:

Without recording conversations, it’s hard to get proof of some things, so it’s just down to what you think is likely really and as I said, I don’t find it hard to believe that there were concerns about skin colour. If it’s true, I think it’s unforgivable.

So, it’s ok to make a serious accusation of racism based on lack of proof and what you think? so then surely the same applies to other posters opinions with regard to bullying. I don’t find it hard to believe that there was/is bullying. I’d also find that unforgivable coming from a humanitarian and a champion of positive mental health.

The accusations of bullying are not from tabloid fodder but respected publications and staff themselves across two continents.

Is this another double standard where we are all to be concerned about MM mental health during her time in the RF but we are not allowed to show the same concern for the mental health of the staff she employs?

So Harry had no control over what came out of his mouth and no control over what he wore because you believe they are all racist? Is Harry that weak that he doesn’t know right from wrong? William comes from the same stock and he hasn’t been caught saying anything. I’m sorry but I find it odd that you wholeheartedly believe something for which there is no proof whatsoever. And didn’t Harry backtrack and say the RF weren’t racist?

That’s my comment which I explained in a pp on 22/3 at 19:43

I find it incredible that so much is made of her being mixed race. She doesn’t look it, I don’t see it, plus she’s not embraced it by spending money on cosmetic procedures to not look it 🤷‍♀️

And rinse and repeat. It’s obvious to many that Meghan doing anything is her doing something at the Wales’ ,especially Catherine, to her fans - because at this point it’s obvious that all the people who know everything about her to rehash and relitigate events from 5 years ago, who consume every bit of media about her and who follow her social media obsessively looking for slights are actually her biggest fans.

It’s fascinating- the woman is an anodyne, bland, overly earnest goof and it’s more than apparent to many that there is an insistence by so many of her most ardent fans that they confirm every negative opinion by raking over everything she does with a fine tooth comb - so her laughing at herself being an over the top idiot becomes her mocking the Queen, her talking specifically about some reporting affected her and how she made up with her sister in law became her calling her sister in law names, her making St Patrick’s Day waffles is either mocking the Queen or somehow awful and fake and on and on. They never tire. I agree with a previous poster - there have been several positive threads which have all gone the same way this one is going. The Meghan anti fans just cannot help themselves.

You don’t have to be a RF or Catherine fan, and I am nether, to talk about the behaviour of both Harry and Megan and it’s a bit lazy to assume that everyone is a fan

I haven’t said that at all. If you’re interested, go back and read my posts and you will see that I haven’t. I’ve been very clear that Harry was wrong for his racism and that he should have publicly apologised. I don’t care if Harry says the RF are not racist, they have shown that they are. Philips comments, Harry’s comments and actions, the brooch, not addressing every single one of these incidents and apologising, it’s not good enough for those that haven’t been shown to be racist themselves to just stay quiet in their position, they need to speak out.

I've only just caught up on this meant to be more positive thread 🙁

The OP need not wonder why people don't start positive threads. This thread has just turned into all the rest. Every single positive thread that has been done over the years is hijacked. As if there aren't god knows how many other threads on her to post your distaste about her There's always at least 3 on the go, this thread has just turned into all the rest, positivity strictly not allowed.

No wonder she left, what a wise decision. She has moved on, what a shame that some posters are completely unable to do the same after years of this never ending criticism. Don't you find it really boring just rehashing over the same old stuff??
And just to add that a lot of people are making a lot of money all over the internet hating on Megan and posters on here are buying into that and no she is not going away because you click on it all and write endlessly about anything negative you can find. There is always a huge delight when another review comes out about her series and its snarky!
I wonder when this will ever stop?

this thread has proved the point. there can not be a positive thread. the WS will not let it be and will just come along and post the same old same old. its almost like they have got lost on the way to one of the vast amount of Meghan bash threads.
(but that was what was planned IMO)

Wow. You apparently not seeing it is very ‘dismissive’ at best, at worst, well…

Disgusting. People very much do see it, which is why the press published so many racist headlines, articles, cartoons etc.

So Harry was lying when he said they were racist?

sorry typo

I echo what @skullbabe said.

And when I saw people saying that her Patrick's Day waffles was a dig at the Queen because she put white squirty cream as hair, I thought FFS....hear yourself!
Don't you think that might be an insult to the queen, saying her face looks like a green waffle?! 😂😅
And when I read that here and elsewhere I thought... people are barking mad with their hating on Meghan

you’ve picked out one point of the above post and argued against it:

You are right, people can be Meghan anti fans’ without being fans of Kate.

I take it you agree with the rest of that post though?

I think he said he didn’t call them racist, which he technically didn’t, as he didn’t use the word. I think he went on to talk about unconscious bias.

Personally I believe expressing concern over skin colour is racist. If Harry doesn’t recognise it as racism, then he thinks differently to me.

It was heavily implied and a person would be pretty daft not to recognise it as such. But there is no proof that they said anything