If Harry still lived in the UK , do you think the feud would have been sorted by now?

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I do feel the biggest hurdle between Harry and his family is that he lives in another country, I think if he lived in the UK there would be more opportunity for them to sort it out

why do posters call her "markle" seems rather childish. do you call Kate "middleton"

I’m pretty sure you can work that out for yourself but I’ll bite.
Her actions have reduced her so low in many people’s opinions to be not even worth her full name.

@JandamiHash "He clearly thinks he’s entitled to whatever information he wants without thinking that perhaps he has no rights to information on other people "

Yes. At his previous RAVEC go didn't he ask for the name of the individual who had said no. To be told by the judge that wasn't how it worked

Oh I assumed it was an excuse for his behaviour in his 20s.

How DO we know this?

In Europe his mum was hounded to death by the tabloids. I don't blame him wanting a fresh start. Seems the royals here fed him to the wolves a bit too. Its sad that this Truman show way of living has driven them apart but if he's happy with his wife and children in America who cares?

Nope. I think it would be much nastier with a lot more positioning of sides and bitterness. William is a man with a temper and appears to be quite vindictive.

I think it's just as well H&M are nicely out of the way. For everyone concerned. The royal leeches can carry on as usual. And Harry gets a better life overseas.

No, OP.

I don't see any mending of the quarrel, ever. Harry has betrayed his family and he has, along with his wife, tried to destroy their reputation on a global platform. He's allowed Meghan to brand them racists - particularly Catherine and KC - and if anyone did that to me in anything but a one-to-one private row, I could never, ever forgive. Harry (according to Spare) fed Meghan the story about the discussion regarding Archie's physical appearance before birth and she picked it up and ran with it.

He will never be trusted again, either in a private of official capacity. It's known that they have both worn 'wires' to record meetings and events when they've briefly returned to the UK - no wonder no-one will see them without courtiers or lawyers present. Harry has also said terrible things about Camilla that would be hard to get past.

He could never be trusted with affairs of state. He might be allowed a house somewhere where he could live privately and quietly , but that would be about it. His and Meghan's conduct, especially during the time of KC's and Catherine's cancer diagnoses, was appalling. They allowed their attack-dogs in the SS to maul them both when they could have called them off. Oh - and this was also while preaching about internet bullying.

Whaaaaat? As Oprah Winfrey might say...

You think William is vindictive? My God - what a take on the situation! Did William write a spiteful, petty memoir trashing his family, go on global TV and slander them all as racists and make a documentary about how awful they were?

What a twisted interpretation...

There’s photos of Harry posing with Sussex Squad bullies at Invictus.

SS are very active online and you can see the sheer volume of posts they have made about Kate’s health etc Their bios on places like X make it crystal clear that they are SS - it’s not something that posters hide like being a fan of Farage or something. Social media posts and hashtag dates can be tracked with dates so it’s easy to follow the trail of who started hashtags and repeated false info.

As for the infidelity story, GC posted that he was responsible for starting that rumour when drunk and denies that it was true yet every few months SS will try and get the associated hashtags trending again.

I’m not saying that there’s nasty pro royalists because there are. They spread insane and false conspiracies about the Sussex family but the point of my post is that there is a deliberate campaign against the rest of Harry’s family organised online.

I wish he'd go and live as a private person somewhere. He's got the millions - it's just that...I'm not so sure that's what he wants. it's most certainly not what his wife wants! She can't live without attention.

Harry thinks he's still a royal prince and expects to be treated as such, even in the USA. No-one would be happier than me if he (and she) just disappeared off the radar and stopped chasing publicity. Total hypocrisy. They want tabloid attention, but only positive attention. That's not how it works!

No, because the future king can't do that. But he's a nasty piece of work. Not entirely his fault (their screwy upbringing) but he's a chip off the old Phillip block all right. And I'd put good money on the skin colour comment being his.

How many times…. Diana died because she got in to a car with a driver who had been drinking and she didn’t put her seatbelt on. She didnt even need to go on that journey (she and Dodi could have stayed at the Ritz), so it’s entirely possible that Dodi (or his father) decided they should change location entirely for the benefit of the paps. Diana also courted the press when it suited her to do so. Her death was tragic and those photographers who took pictures of the accident are absolutely beneath contempt. But she was not “hounded to death”by them. Harry’s dislike of the press is based on the mythology that has grown up following his mother’s death. Not on actual facts

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I think you'll find that @Babycatsarenice isn't just referring to the actual paps that chased the car for the fatal crash, but the hounding of Diana by the press from when she was very first dating Charles. So 17 years of it.

How on earth do you know this? That isn't what I see.

I think you've been swallowing the Sussex narrative whole - and they've got a massive axe to grind.

And I admired Philip, so there.

I think you are reaching. The poster referred to Diana’s death so I took it at face value 😊

I'm not suprised he has a temper - but I wonder how you know so much about him? What you say has echoes of the SS narrative, as seen so charmingly on Celebitchy.

His brother and sister-in-law betryed him and his family, his father and then his wife have been diagnosed with cancer and he's had to carry on while being picked apart by the SS because he's bald (has Harry every looked in an overhead mirror recently??)). He's suffered the vicious spite of the SS rumour (started by Meghan) that he has had an affair with Rose Hanbury (poor Rose too - not nice for her or her family) and that he regularly beats up Catherine.

And you expect him to be a happy ray of sunshine? That guy has been under so much pressure over the last 2 years, I don't know how he's managed. And wouldn't it have been nice to have a loyal brother to support you? But Harry has no idea how much harm and damage and hurt he's deliberatly caused.

@MiserableMrsMopp is quite right I meant the hounding by the press that she got her whole life, plus also the fatal crash that yes was caused by a drunk driver but he was trying to flee the press. Let's face it we've many of us been a bit fascinated by Harry and Meghan since "Megxit" as it seemed such a shocking action. Harry does need to earn money to pay for security for his family so they are going to try to earn money and the way they do that is by being in the public eye. I'm never going to watch the cookery show but if they can finance their lifestyle selling jams then fine, Charles does it here.

He wouldn't have been able to just declare himself 'out' of the RF and the public eye in the UK. He wouldn't get left alone and his cries for 'privacy' would be hard for people to swallow, having funded his privileged life since before birth.

British people kind of feel like they own the royals and second in line to the throne can't just bail.

So he'd still be part of it all if he still lived here. He wouldn't be able to earn money in any other way for starters because we all know he's not a bright artist, businessman or great academic brain.

Do you think Lili and Archie will ever meet their cousins and wider family?
Will they ever go to Sandringham or Balmoral?
Will they attend any celebrations or funerals etc?

It's going to be so odd for them if they grow up without any contact or experience of the British RF.

They'll just watch from afar, no connection, but with these anachronistic titles.

Also trying to make sense of how their parents became estranged from family on both sides. Will they accept the family narrative that their parents were innocent victims or will they make their own judgement as they get older?

Thank you @Babycatsarenice. Your meaning WAS obvious, but it was just manipulated by those with other agendas.

Apparently they don't want privacy.
They're being left alone by the USA media.
And he's not earning any money (since his book. )

If he wanted privacy he could have moved to a remote region of north America and not written a book slagging off his family.

No issues with that. Each to their own.

And nope. I'm not a royal watcher. He's renowned for his temper. Typical angry man type like his grandad. Similar to both grandad and dad with his extra marital sh*gging around too.

Let's be honest, the public domain talk about William's affair massively predates Harry's wife. But if you want to force the jigsaw pieces into place. By all means go on with that.

Harry's gone. The current bunch are the ones we're stuck with.

No, because the future king can't do that. But he's a nasty piece of work. Not entirely his fault (their screwy upbringing) but he's a chip off the old Phillip block all right. And I'd put good money on the skin colour comment being his.

What a load of desperate rubbish.

1. Harry has pathetically tried to retract the 'racism' claims. Even he knows it was a ridiculous accusation.
2. The racism claim rests on a report of a conversation about Archie's appearance which millions of people, in mixed-race or in same-race relationships, have all the time. My son is in a m-r marriage and we all happily discuss this with no offence taken. Harry was looking for something to be offended by.
3. Meghan's rejection in many ways of her African-American heritage doesn't sit well with this kind of super-sensitivity (see above). She is also known to crow on rather embarrassingly about her children's blue, blue eyes and fair hair. Hmmm. Just as well it's her and no-one else, or they'd be racists for sure.

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