If Harry still lived in the UK , do you think the feud would have been sorted by now?

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I do feel the biggest hurdle between Harry and his family is that he lives in another country, I think if he lived in the UK there would be more opportunity for them to sort it out

Maybe. Sometimes, not seeing someone at all can just entrench positions - but conversely, frequent interaction can just piss you off even more.

I think William is a Very Nice Man all round and is probably quite forgiving but the cold and short statement (which got her name wrong and had a thinly veiled blow at the press) put out following Catherine’s cancer announcement is something even the kindest of brothers would struggle to ever forgive. Horrible couple. I bet it REALLY pained them to have to be kind and centre someone else

Spot on. William had the measure of her. Harry doubled down and dug his heels in. Now he’s come unstuck. Seen it a thousand times.

It’s actually been proven through a LAPD FOI request that Harry and Meghan have briefed the press about themselves and other members of the RF. They are proven liars and hypocrites.

It has never been proven that any member of the RF have briefed against the couple and journalists have gone on record to say that this has never happened and wouldn’t.

https://radaronline.com/p/meghan-markle-prince-harry-secret-lapd-files-planted-stories-queen-elizabeth/

https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/uk-news/2022/12/15/639b589a46163fe6608b45e2.html

The fact that the Sussexes learned of Kate’s cancer diagnosis the same time as everyone else speaks volumes as to how the Waleses view the pair.

And still proceeded to put out a cold generic statement that may have been more apt for a distance acquaintance than close relative. Particularly as we know Kate and Harry used to get on really well.

I think Harry would be miserable if he was still in the UK. Getting away from that awful family, and more importantly, not bringing his children up around them, is undoubtedly the best thing he could have done. I don’t think he and William were ever close anyway.

I don’t blame them for not sharing the news with them. They’d have only called People magazine and leaked the story first, or their rancid Sussex Squad to set venom on Catherine (which is what happened anyway, and then H&M went on to pose for picture with the bullies)

What so awful about them? I’d be pretty happy with a family bank rolling me and my OH to do very little in life

I think that there would be more blame placed on his family using their influence to have an effect on media coverage and work opportunities.

I’ve seen the odd pic by foreign paps of the Wales family (Kate in an optician, Kate taking the kids to Smiggle etc) and if this happened to Meghan and the kids then it would fuel Harry’s rage that the family was out to get him when he should be looking at how his drug use is ruining his enjoyment of life.

If the British media was out to get him then we would have seen very little written about him after he left but American media have found enough to gossip about to continue to cultivate the attention that he clearly enjoys in order to feel important.

He didn’t want to leave . Not sure how many times I have to say that ! He and Meghan wanted half in half out , were told no so flounced off .

Apart from they wanted half in half out! So didn’t want to actually leave.

The rest is just spite as they didn’t get their own way. The word ‘No’ is much harder to learn the older you are.

Yes he thought “Well I didn’t ASK to be born into this family” is enough to justify him buggering off the North America and have the security paid for by the British taxpayer for the rest of time.

And he might have a point until you look at literally everyone in the world. Children born into foster care or poverty don’t choose it. Theres long term detrimental impacts on their whole life span by those experiences but they don’t get whatever they want in adulthood at the expense of millions of pounds of taxpayer money . You’re handed the hand you’re given and you find a way at to muddle through - Harry is no different. The difference is he’s already a millionaire several times over, unlike the children born into foster poverty, and that makes things about a million times easier

Who are you referring to specifically as you can’t surely be generalising about a full family being awful? In what way are they awful and what proof do you have for this?

I think Harry is more miserable than ever at the moment. He seems completely checked out.

@Not2identifying " I'd have more sympathy for Harry on this one if he denounced the whole hierarchy. No 'Prince', no Duke, etc. But he leans into that because the hierarchy is only a problem if the person is senior to him."

I agree with this , in fact I would say that hierarchy is all he has. If he were plain Captain Wales and MM was an actress from a cable TV show they could not have dreamed of the opportunities they have been given. I do also think it could be argued he had the better deal than William - most of the perks with way fewer of the responsibilities.

Inside Prince Harry's 'indulgent' childhood and why Charles now 'regrets' how he raised him: Royal expert reveals if the King had been firmer with his son during his early years, he might not have caused him so much worry now | Daily Mail Online

I think I mean the institution as a whole, the courtiers, the culture. But yes, also individuals. I think Charles and William are pretty awful - widely spoiled and perpetually indulged brats.

So why didn’t they want to leave ?

How did he say he was thrown under a bus by him? They are around the same age

If they were still in the UK they might have friends and family around who could protect them from themselves. They are their own worst enemy.

It's 100% Markle.
She's cut offf her own family
They've cut off his family
Most of his friends have been cut off

This isn't normal behaviour! It's called divide and conquer... she's clearly an expert

Stating something doesn't make it so, you need evidence.

I don't think there is a feud
Harry and Meghan have stropped off and nobody here cares.
On a personal level it must be upsetting for his Dad and brother but I doubt they would welcome him back after he has tried to make so much money off slagging them off. I don't blame his wife for this, he might be a bit dim but he is a grown up and can make his own decisions.
I hope M and H are happy with their new life, its what they wanted so now they just need to get on with it and maybe one day he will man up enough to apologise to his family (unlikely). I am not saying his wife wasn't treated badly by The Uk Press and no doubt some insisde The Palace and growing up as he did can't have been easy but neither of them have got too much to whine about.
Writing a book about how shitty your family is was never going to end well

I amazed someone can think that when it comes to Brattish behaviour Charles and William are worse than Harry

I’m not sure what she age to do with it?

Harry claims William fed the press lies about Harry and Meghan to stave off bad stories about him and Catherine. No evidence at all for this of course it’s little more than mum longs of a renowned paranoid liar