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Meghan’s show IS something new and different.

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AtIusvue · 06/03/2025 13:08

So we have it wrong. THIS IS an entirely new format for a cookery/lifestyle show. Because it isn’t a cookery/lifestyle show. This is Netflix first foray into the world of informercials and they are doing it in NF style; meaning a big budget and a slight twist.

So With Love, Meghan is a 5hr advert for As ever and Meghan Sussex. But what makes it different; is it has been disguised as a lifestyle show and there’s no direct sales. It’s the soft sell…..very beige and subtle.

So every recipe and story Meghan shares, is designed around an As ever product. Even conversations with friends are designed to either sell Meghan or a product.

For example. In Ep 8, she makes shortbread with edible flowers. A packet mix of shortbread with edible flowers is now on the As ever website. Now on the show, we don’t see her open the box. But what we do see, is her giving a very quick run through of a basic dough recipe and then tell the viewer they can just use shop bought. The majority of the time isn’t spent in the baking, it’s spent on the decorating with edible flowers.
This is by design. All the baked goods she’s shows you on the programme, she says things like ‘I don’t enjoy baking’, ‘I’ve never made doughnuts before’, ‘ I only learned last week to make focaccia’ ‘I don’t like measuring’
So while viewers who are expecting to watch a cookery show, are flummoxed by someone with such little baking skills teaching us- it’s because it’s an advert and she’s selling the idea that the baking part isn’t important. So when the As ever baked goods mixes appear after the advert goes out, people will want to buy. Because they know that even Meghan doesn’t like baking. That it’s ok to skip that part, and focus on the decorating and gifting part.

This is soft selling infomercials. It’s a Netflix/QVC hybrid. She is directly selling you the idea and lifestyle, but softly selling you the products. You find out what these products are, after the show.

More examples-
Ep 1 where she makes an Epsom salt bath mix (As ever TM pending). The honey and ginger tea she shares with her friend Daniel is on the As ever website. Teapots are also intended to be sold. The raspberry jam that she uses in the cake she bakes (which again, is a very basic mix and she runs through quickly- because we know she wants to sell packets of the stuff) is now available in the website. As is the honey she used for the cake syrup.

So Ep 2, where we see Meghan make kids party bags. Included are kids gardening tools (which is under the As ever TM application) a honey stick (TM application ) and plant pots (TM application)

Everything is for sale. When in Ep. 7 Meghan puts shop bought croissants in a basket and decants jam into little ramekins, a quick look at the TM application confirms that these are all items she intends to sell under As ever.

How does the soft sell look?

Take for example the jam on the show. The label isn’t on the jar, so it’s not directly selling the brand, As ever. But it’s the same jar shape and we know that it’s raspberry because the cake is decorated with fresh raspberries on top, indicating the jam used. Or the crepe are served with the jam and fresh raspberry’s. It’s all very subtle. The raspeberry jam product then drops straight after the show.

The stories she shares are designed to sell too. For example; her memory of her gran making apple butter- she has fruit butters under her TM application.

Even conversations with friends are designed to sell not only Meghan (how wonderful she is) but they are designed to introduce products in the As ever line. So in Ep 5 we see Meghan’s friends Kelly and Abby discuss Meghans love of spicy condiments - these are under the As ever TM application. We also see Abby discuss Meghans love of flowers and how she helped her in her floral business. From the TM application, you can see it is As Ever’s intention to sell fresh flowers and plants. It’s also why we are given floral demonstrations with ‘supermarket’ flowers.

Conversations with her friend Vicky too in Ep 7, about how Meghan loves a polished skin look, while making face masks- again, we see As ever intends to sell non medicated skin products from the TM application.

The show is a practical demonstration of how to use her products, but the products are released after the advert. When you cross ref the TM application items with what was seen on screen, you see clearly that everything is designed for a sale. Crockery, candles,baskets, wrapping paper, jam etc.

Another tell that this is an infomercial hybrid, is the fact that they have said more As ever items will be released seasonally. Why? What’s seasonal about honey and ginger tea and crepe mix that it’s to come out in spring? These are store cupboard items, not seasonal products.
What they actually mean is, when a new advert comes out, new products will be introduced and added to the collection.

This is why all the press reviews for the show mean nothing. NF won’t care that’s it’s ridiculed. We have all just watched the advert they wanted us to watch. What they want is for it to translate into sales for As ever. It really doesn’t matter how much critical acclaim the show gets, as it’s just a vehicle for the products.
Additionally, we know from the TM application that As ever wants to enter the podcast world. So her new podcast will be in furtherance to the brand and selling the products. But again, it will be a soft sell, not direct.

So it IS a completely new style of cooking show. It goes beyond product placement but isn’t direct selling. I think meghan and NF think they have been very clever. At some point everyone will figure out these are just adverts and work out that every recipe, conversation and story, is linked to an item that you can buy on the As ever website straight after the show.

She’s not trying to be Martha Stewart, she wants to be the new Kathy Ireland ……Meghan Sussex. That’s why there’s been a name rebrand. It’s trying to copy the Kathys mega brand (huge in the US, unknown here) but direct selling her own products….but in a 2025 Netflix kinda way.

So the purpose of the informercial was to

1- introduce the name Meghan Sussex. That’s why they’ve included the car crash ticking off Mindy got- because at least it got her new brand name in. It’s the new Kathy Ireland.

2- To sell the new Meghan Sussex image. So throughout each episode, her friends fawn over her and tell her how amazing she is at everything- cooking, hosting, flower arrange etc.

3- To soft sell the lifestyle wirh generic, no label products first, then find out what the As ever products are after. I’m sure this is a way to get around not having to list the show as an advertisement. That’s also why the name of the show and her product line are different. So it’s not seen as traditional advertisement.

With her appearance on Drew Barrymore, she’s confirming the new brand name, confirming that she’s this super nice, working mom and that she has products to sell you.

Absolutely shameless and so underhand in my opinion……but it might work.

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jeffgoldblum · 22/03/2025 14:05

Ohh @Mylovelygreendress!!! I remember that exactly! I think I was with you on that very thread! , and the poster in question is legacy yes?

ThePoshUns · 22/03/2025 18:42

jeffgoldblum · 22/03/2025 14:03

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/2025.03.20-180823/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14520227/meghan-markle-friend-prince-harry-markus-anderson-vanished-netflix-show.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.ph/2025.03.20-180823/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14520227/meghan-markle-friend-prince-harry-markus-anderson-vanished-netflix-show.html

im posting this here because at face value it seems just a puffy pr article!
but it’s extremely odd and if you read closely it’s quite something!
are journalists finally lifting the curtain and having a proper peek? Or are they paving the way for others to investigate? 🤔

Very odd/ intriguing article. I would say they are no longer friends as she doesn’t need him anymore. The Gwyneth Paltrow comments were interesting. Putting Meghan in her place without coming across as mean girl.

jeffgoldblum · 22/03/2025 18:52

ThePoshUns · 22/03/2025 18:42

Very odd/ intriguing article. I would say they are no longer friends as she doesn’t need him anymore. The Gwyneth Paltrow comments were interesting. Putting Meghan in her place without coming across as mean girl.

Yes very odd @ThePoshUns!
but I was particularly intrigued with the way they kept continually going back to Markus Anderson!
they start with him , then give a little background, mention other friends, then back to him again!
very odd!
we all know there’s much to know about Markus , definitely something to uncover!

RevolutionaryMode · 22/03/2025 18:56

glitterturd · 22/03/2025 10:46

Re mentors - Meghan could probably write a book " how to get on in the world" or " how to claw your way to the top" or " how to find your voice ". To be fair to her she seems to have done some less than savoury things to get to where she is. The suitcase girl, the BBQ girl, the French maid and the BJ girl. She used the " girl who looks like she delivers the goods" and fair enough as we know the casting couch has been used against women for years. Many actresses have refused that route but Meghan's desire for fame obviously pre empted any reservations she may have had about that. She put herself about, she mingled with the right people, she hung about in the right places until she found that final stepping stone. She has persistence. She bagged Harry who was a better catch than Ashley Cole or Rory McIlroy. She certainly has worked to get where she has.

Re mentors - Meghan could probably write a book " how to get on in the world" or " how to claw your way to the top" or " how to find your voice ". To be fair to her she seems to have done some less than savoury things to get to where she is. The suitcase girl, the BBQ girl, the French maid and the BJ girl. She used the " girl who looks like she delivers the goods" and fair enough as we know the casting couch has been used against women for years. Many actresses have refused that route but Meghan's desire for fame obviously pre empted any reservations she may have had about that. She put herself about, she mingled with the right people, she hung about in the right places until she found that final stepping stone. She has persistence. She bagged Harry who was a better catch than Ashley Cole or Rory McIlroy. She certainly has worked to get where she has.

Catherine was called a ‘wisteria sister’ a social climber, and was said to have lived much of her pre marriage life at William’s beck and call, waiting to be asked to married by William. William’s friends called her worse names I’ve read, but I have no desire to repeat them. It’s so so unnecessary and an awful way to speak and think of other women. And it’s an example of the double standards that are applied to these two women - by other women.

glitterturd · 22/03/2025 19:56

@RevolutionaryModei don't agree with you there obviously - I have to agree or not comment on someone's output because they are FEMALE ? That's not logical. What are you saying ? She's a woman so she cannot be held up to certain standards?

glitterturd · 22/03/2025 20:02

@RevolutionaryMode what are female bosses who conduct reviews of their staff supposed to do? Say all is hunky dory because it is a woman reporting about a woman ?
Is it ok for a woman to be critical of a male ? Is it ok for a male to be critical of a female?
I don't know Meghan - I judge based on what I see. I have had a whole career in assessment of people. I have never thought " oh dear she is female I better go easy on her" 🙄

RevolutionaryMode · 23/03/2025 00:46

glitterturd · 22/03/2025 19:56

@RevolutionaryModei don't agree with you there obviously - I have to agree or not comment on someone's output because they are FEMALE ? That's not logical. What are you saying ? She's a woman so she cannot be held up to certain standards?

what are female bosses who conduct reviews of their staff supposed to do? Say all is hunky dory because it is a woman reporting about a woman ?
Is it ok for a woman to be critical of a male ? Is it ok for a male to be critical of a female?
I don't know Meghan - I judge based on what I see. I have had a whole career in assessment of people. I have never thought " oh dear she is female I better go easy on her"

Of course a woman boss should judge a woman staff member according to the same criteria she’d apply to a man. I wish (and hope) they would. I wish a male boss would too, as there would be more female bosses as a result.

But, hopefully, the boss would have only the facts in front of her though, and not be relying, at all, on a bunch of inaccurate gossip and pretend scenarios that is mixed in with any facts.

But you don’t seem to be assessing Meghan’s ability to work here.

glitterturd · 23/03/2025 09:48

@RevolutionaryMode I am absolutely assessing Meghan's ability to work here !

BemusedAmerican · 23/03/2025 13:36

Just watched this hilarious review of WLM by an Irish priest who appears to be visiting from Father Ted:

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He recommended watching it for Lent.

BasiliskStare · 23/03/2025 15:11

BemusedAmerican · 23/03/2025 13:36

Just watched this hilarious review of WLM by an Irish priest who appears to be visiting from Father Ted:

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He recommended watching it for Lent.

That is both exceedingly funny and rather charming Thank You 💐👏

MrsFinkelstein · 23/03/2025 15:19

I am now in possession of not 1, but TWO gorgeous cabbage bowls!

The big one from M&S, and I spotted the smaller one in TKMaxx for just £6.50.

Photos attached.

Elevated. Of course.

Edit: photos under review, hopefully won't be long

Meghan’s show IS something new and different.
Meghan’s show IS something new and different.
LaMarschallin · 23/03/2025 15:22

MrsFinkelstein

Excellent gin measuring and excellent gin <chef's kiss>

jeffgoldblum · 23/03/2025 15:24

MrsFinkelstein · 23/03/2025 15:19

I am now in possession of not 1, but TWO gorgeous cabbage bowls!

The big one from M&S, and I spotted the smaller one in TKMaxx for just £6.50.

Photos attached.

Elevated. Of course.

Edit: photos under review, hopefully won't be long

Edited

Beautiful!!!🤩 so cabbage 🥬, so gin ! , so elevated!

VaddaABeetch · 23/03/2025 15:27

@MrsFinkelstein are you cabbage woman now? I should known that.

MrsFinkelstein · 23/03/2025 16:18

VaddaABeetch · 23/03/2025 15:27

@MrsFinkelstein are you cabbage woman now? I should known that.

I Am Cabbage Gin Woman. Hear me roar 🦁 🍸

JADS · 23/03/2025 16:26

@mrsfinkelstein Your cabbage and gin tablescape is a work of art!

Elevation indeed.

(The red cabbage is awesome btw)

MrsFinkelstein · 23/03/2025 16:27

I did get mega side eye from the husband as I was putting gin bottles in the bowls and taking photos.

He knows me well enough now to not actually say anything but just keep it to the side eye and a slight shake of the head with eyebrows raised.

Choosing which gins to use took me a while. My Isle of Harris was a no brainer, but I was torn with the other...Raasay, Whitley, Palma, JJ, Lind & Lime, random Aldi, Gordon's. I even considered cherry brandy as an outside contender. What elevates mostest? The French one I got in Nice duty free gave a more cosmopolitan edge?

Edit: the Palma gin bottle is stu-uh-unning, but square. Wasn't sure would fit.

BasiliskStare · 23/03/2025 20:03

@MrsFinkelstein

A beautiful display. You have made me feel , though, like my humble bottle of Gordons was like bringing a knife to a gin fight. 😂Gin.

I would love it if by some strange coincidence our Dh's fell into conversation
Mr F - Do you know, I found my wife photographing bottles of gin in cabbage shaped bowls the other day.
Mr B - Me too. Do you think it's A Thing ?
Mr F - I don't know. I thought it best not to ask
Mr B - Same here.

MrsFinkelstein · 23/03/2025 20:17

@BasiliskStare it was a sweet nod to you ❤️

I have a ridiculous gin selection, even I have to admit it.

That would be hysterical! We can sample the gins and serve elevated stuff in our cabbage bowls while our DHs side eye us 🤣🤣🤣

smilesy · 23/03/2025 20:39

MrsFinkelstein · 23/03/2025 20:17

@BasiliskStare it was a sweet nod to you ❤️

I have a ridiculous gin selection, even I have to admit it.

That would be hysterical! We can sample the gins and serve elevated stuff in our cabbage bowls while our DHs side eye us 🤣🤣🤣

i think you should just have a cabbage bowlful of gin and tonic 😆

BasiliskStare · 23/03/2025 21:02

@MrsFinkelstein Awww Mrs F I am touched.

I am sorry about the erroneous apostrophe in Dh's . Cabbage bowls , gin envy , pedantic worrying abut punctuation. Empty vacuous life , moi? @smilesy - I like your thinking 😊

Fillybuster · 23/03/2025 21:03

Somehow completely missed this thread until now. Have definitely been off my MN game the last couple of weeks.

And now entirely distracted by cabbage bowls. I have 2 mid size original 1970s glass ones inherited from MIL when she moved abroad, and my DPs have a full set of cabbage water glasses (large AND small) and a whole bunch of small cabbage bowls. Not sure how DH would feel about additional cabbageware though <misses all thread points simultaneously>

Fillybuster · 23/03/2025 21:05

Like these:

Fillybuster · 23/03/2025 21:06

Shoot. Image fail.

MrsFinkelstein · 23/03/2025 21:26

smilesy · 23/03/2025 20:39

i think you should just have a cabbage bowlful of gin and tonic 😆

Already on it 😉Gin