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Meghan’s show IS something new and different.

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AtIusvue · 06/03/2025 13:08

So we have it wrong. THIS IS an entirely new format for a cookery/lifestyle show. Because it isn’t a cookery/lifestyle show. This is Netflix first foray into the world of informercials and they are doing it in NF style; meaning a big budget and a slight twist.

So With Love, Meghan is a 5hr advert for As ever and Meghan Sussex. But what makes it different; is it has been disguised as a lifestyle show and there’s no direct sales. It’s the soft sell…..very beige and subtle.

So every recipe and story Meghan shares, is designed around an As ever product. Even conversations with friends are designed to either sell Meghan or a product.

For example. In Ep 8, she makes shortbread with edible flowers. A packet mix of shortbread with edible flowers is now on the As ever website. Now on the show, we don’t see her open the box. But what we do see, is her giving a very quick run through of a basic dough recipe and then tell the viewer they can just use shop bought. The majority of the time isn’t spent in the baking, it’s spent on the decorating with edible flowers.
This is by design. All the baked goods she’s shows you on the programme, she says things like ‘I don’t enjoy baking’, ‘I’ve never made doughnuts before’, ‘ I only learned last week to make focaccia’ ‘I don’t like measuring’
So while viewers who are expecting to watch a cookery show, are flummoxed by someone with such little baking skills teaching us- it’s because it’s an advert and she’s selling the idea that the baking part isn’t important. So when the As ever baked goods mixes appear after the advert goes out, people will want to buy. Because they know that even Meghan doesn’t like baking. That it’s ok to skip that part, and focus on the decorating and gifting part.

This is soft selling infomercials. It’s a Netflix/QVC hybrid. She is directly selling you the idea and lifestyle, but softly selling you the products. You find out what these products are, after the show.

More examples-
Ep 1 where she makes an Epsom salt bath mix (As ever TM pending). The honey and ginger tea she shares with her friend Daniel is on the As ever website. Teapots are also intended to be sold. The raspberry jam that she uses in the cake she bakes (which again, is a very basic mix and she runs through quickly- because we know she wants to sell packets of the stuff) is now available in the website. As is the honey she used for the cake syrup.

So Ep 2, where we see Meghan make kids party bags. Included are kids gardening tools (which is under the As ever TM application) a honey stick (TM application ) and plant pots (TM application)

Everything is for sale. When in Ep. 7 Meghan puts shop bought croissants in a basket and decants jam into little ramekins, a quick look at the TM application confirms that these are all items she intends to sell under As ever.

How does the soft sell look?

Take for example the jam on the show. The label isn’t on the jar, so it’s not directly selling the brand, As ever. But it’s the same jar shape and we know that it’s raspberry because the cake is decorated with fresh raspberries on top, indicating the jam used. Or the crepe are served with the jam and fresh raspberry’s. It’s all very subtle. The raspeberry jam product then drops straight after the show.

The stories she shares are designed to sell too. For example; her memory of her gran making apple butter- she has fruit butters under her TM application.

Even conversations with friends are designed to sell not only Meghan (how wonderful she is) but they are designed to introduce products in the As ever line. So in Ep 5 we see Meghan’s friends Kelly and Abby discuss Meghans love of spicy condiments - these are under the As ever TM application. We also see Abby discuss Meghans love of flowers and how she helped her in her floral business. From the TM application, you can see it is As Ever’s intention to sell fresh flowers and plants. It’s also why we are given floral demonstrations with ‘supermarket’ flowers.

Conversations with her friend Vicky too in Ep 7, about how Meghan loves a polished skin look, while making face masks- again, we see As ever intends to sell non medicated skin products from the TM application.

The show is a practical demonstration of how to use her products, but the products are released after the advert. When you cross ref the TM application items with what was seen on screen, you see clearly that everything is designed for a sale. Crockery, candles,baskets, wrapping paper, jam etc.

Another tell that this is an infomercial hybrid, is the fact that they have said more As ever items will be released seasonally. Why? What’s seasonal about honey and ginger tea and crepe mix that it’s to come out in spring? These are store cupboard items, not seasonal products.
What they actually mean is, when a new advert comes out, new products will be introduced and added to the collection.

This is why all the press reviews for the show mean nothing. NF won’t care that’s it’s ridiculed. We have all just watched the advert they wanted us to watch. What they want is for it to translate into sales for As ever. It really doesn’t matter how much critical acclaim the show gets, as it’s just a vehicle for the products.
Additionally, we know from the TM application that As ever wants to enter the podcast world. So her new podcast will be in furtherance to the brand and selling the products. But again, it will be a soft sell, not direct.

So it IS a completely new style of cooking show. It goes beyond product placement but isn’t direct selling. I think meghan and NF think they have been very clever. At some point everyone will figure out these are just adverts and work out that every recipe, conversation and story, is linked to an item that you can buy on the As ever website straight after the show.

She’s not trying to be Martha Stewart, she wants to be the new Kathy Ireland ……Meghan Sussex. That’s why there’s been a name rebrand. It’s trying to copy the Kathys mega brand (huge in the US, unknown here) but direct selling her own products….but in a 2025 Netflix kinda way.

So the purpose of the informercial was to

1- introduce the name Meghan Sussex. That’s why they’ve included the car crash ticking off Mindy got- because at least it got her new brand name in. It’s the new Kathy Ireland.

2- To sell the new Meghan Sussex image. So throughout each episode, her friends fawn over her and tell her how amazing she is at everything- cooking, hosting, flower arrange etc.

3- To soft sell the lifestyle wirh generic, no label products first, then find out what the As ever products are after. I’m sure this is a way to get around not having to list the show as an advertisement. That’s also why the name of the show and her product line are different. So it’s not seen as traditional advertisement.

With her appearance on Drew Barrymore, she’s confirming the new brand name, confirming that she’s this super nice, working mom and that she has products to sell you.

Absolutely shameless and so underhand in my opinion……but it might work.

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DelectableMe · 21/03/2025 16:30

Aren't those piles of books unsold copies of The Bench?

IcedPurple · 21/03/2025 16:45

GiveMeSpanakopita · 21/03/2025 16:24

Ahhh, not that photo again. I can't get past the placement of the laptop on those piles of folders (books? trays?). How is she meant to type anything? And yes yes I know she wants the camera to be high up because goddess forbid Meghan should appear onscreen with the old 'double chin' angle so common to Zoom calls. But again, would that really matter? The project wasn't about her, it was about doing service for others?

I do loads of client calls on Zoom and don't give a monkeys about the double chin angle - it's more important that I can TYPE notes and pull up plans and documents as we talk. The client's not meeting me for my (long gone) looks but for the professional value I can add.

Surely it was the same for 40 x 40?

Also, what happened to that project? It's the one project of Meghan's that I felt was genuinely original and interesting, and although it may not have had much PR value, it could have had legs and done some good if managed properly. And sure you could get PR out of it too. Is she carrying it on behind the scenes or has it stuttered to a halt?

Personally, I thought it was a silly project. What use is a chat for 40 minutes? And how is Meghan qualified to 'coach' young women? Anyway, it seems to have come to nowt, like so many of her 'projects'.

glitterturd · 21/03/2025 16:59

MrsFinkelstein · 21/03/2025 14:47

Getting very much..."We have full confidence, and they have our full support". Sacked/resigned within a week.

Proof will be if the contract is renewed.

He's got to say in public this otherwise they look like a bunch of suckers 😂

smilesy · 21/03/2025 17:11

IcedPurple · 21/03/2025 16:16

Not sure about the 'work' part, but she did have the blanket strategically placed in the video she made for the short lived '40 x 40' project. Helpfully, the Hermes logo was clearly displayed facing the camera so there could be no doubt that the Duchess was not messing around with cheap blankets!

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Omg, how bland and beige is that room?😳

IcedPurple · 21/03/2025 17:15

smilesy · 21/03/2025 17:11

Omg, how bland and beige is that room?😳

Yes, it's very generic. More like a 'show house' than an actual lived in home.

And don't forget the court jester grinning at the window!

JADS · 21/03/2025 17:19

IcedPurple · 21/03/2025 17:15

Yes, it's very generic. More like a 'show house' than an actual lived in home.

And don't forget the court jester grinning at the window!

Harry is such a prat.

Guy however looks like he is living his best life. Sweet little dog.

CathyorClaire · 21/03/2025 20:40

Just me who thought the Hermes blanket looked like something you'd find in 'The Range'?

I'll get me coat 😛

LaMarschallin · 21/03/2025 20:58

Ah! "H" for "Hermes".
Not just to remind Harry what his nickname is, then.

ThePoshUns · 21/03/2025 21:02

That room looks like the reception area for a spa hotel.

CathyorClaire · 21/03/2025 21:02

LaMarschallin · 21/03/2025 20:58

Ah! "H" for "Hermes".
Not just to remind Harry what his nickname is, then.

'TO' (This One) didn't fit into the square 🤓

RevolutionaryMode · 21/03/2025 21:45

AtIusvue · 21/03/2025 14:11

It’s part of their appeal. That they are exclusive to everyone. Think that’s why it’s coveted. You have to spend years and crazy money to be invited to buy certain bags.

It’s why the Kardashians own so many- they then get invited to buy the uber exclusives that only a few would ever be offered.

So in a way, it’s confirmation of your status….that you have to drop ££££££s over the years, to then be the owner of an ultra exclusive bag that others aren’t offered.

So far it only looks like she’s stretched to the sandals and blanket. Both of which are available to anybody.

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I just googled and she’s got the Hermes bags. One at least was from her Canadian, Suits, yoga going days. I haven’t yet RTFT so apologies if someone has already pointed this out.

AtIusvue · 21/03/2025 22:09

That was the Bayswater- not Hermes

Shes never been pictured with a Hermes bag.

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IcedPurple · 21/03/2025 23:13

ThePoshUns · 21/03/2025 21:02

That room looks like the reception area for a spa hotel.

That's exactly what it looks like!

It's the kind of decor designed to be inoffensive in its bland beigeness.

And the furniture is totally unsuitable for any type of 'work'.

RevolutionaryMode · 21/03/2025 23:24

AtIusvue · 21/03/2025 22:09

That was the Bayswater- not Hermes

Shes never been pictured with a Hermes bag.

Fair enough. I do not know anything about handbags really. Although I always liked Jane Birkin’s casual style when wearing one.

GiveMeSpanakopita · 22/03/2025 07:32

IcedPurple · 21/03/2025 16:45

Personally, I thought it was a silly project. What use is a chat for 40 minutes? And how is Meghan qualified to 'coach' young women? Anyway, it seems to have come to nowt, like so many of her 'projects'.

It can be very useful if the chat is content rich and contains signposts to avenues of career advancement, and introductions from the mentor for the mentee to people in the mentor's network who could help the mentee. And follow ups, of course.

I don't know whether Meghan's project contained all of these things, but that is personally how I would have run it and in that way I think it could have been extremely helpful, although as I've said, not hugely PR-able.

DelectableMe · 22/03/2025 07:34

GiveMeSpanakopita · 22/03/2025 07:32

It can be very useful if the chat is content rich and contains signposts to avenues of career advancement, and introductions from the mentor for the mentee to people in the mentor's network who could help the mentee. And follow ups, of course.

I don't know whether Meghan's project contained all of these things, but that is personally how I would have run it and in that way I think it could have been extremely helpful, although as I've said, not hugely PR-able.

But how is she qualified to mentor women?
Who would want her as a mentor, and I'm being serious?

elessar · 22/03/2025 08:25

IcedPurple · 21/03/2025 23:13

That's exactly what it looks like!

It's the kind of decor designed to be inoffensive in its bland beigeness.

And the furniture is totally unsuitable for any type of 'work'.

You can tell no actual work takes place in that office because there’s no power cables to be seen!

aside from the sky high laptop perched on copies of the Bench (which is just weird, who kits out their office with $$$$ furniture and blankets but then uses piles of books instead of a laptop stand) if you were spending any amount of time doing any actual work there then you’d need power. You’d also (probably) want a mouse, a second monitor, a notepad etc. The whole set up is clearly just for show.

JADS · 22/03/2025 08:26

DelectableMe · 22/03/2025 07:34

But how is she qualified to mentor women?
Who would want her as a mentor, and I'm being serious?

Mentoring isn't something you need a lot of qualifications for.

Meghan when 40x40 was announced had had a successful career in TV acting and had the NF/Spotify/book contract. She wasn't the bust flush she is now.

More importantly, she got other women to do the mentoring - I can't remember who was involved, Eugenie was one of them. As a project, it had legs provided the mentor was in the right area and there was the opportunity to continue the relationship.

I think it was one of their better projects, but I agree with @GiveMeSpanakopita not particularly PRable. Although I don't understand why. These types of projects are important.

DelectableMe · 22/03/2025 08:52

JADS · 22/03/2025 08:26

Mentoring isn't something you need a lot of qualifications for.

Meghan when 40x40 was announced had had a successful career in TV acting and had the NF/Spotify/book contract. She wasn't the bust flush she is now.

More importantly, she got other women to do the mentoring - I can't remember who was involved, Eugenie was one of them. As a project, it had legs provided the mentor was in the right area and there was the opportunity to continue the relationship.

I think it was one of their better projects, but I agree with @GiveMeSpanakopita not particularly PRable. Although I don't understand why. These types of projects are important.

I would disagree that Meghan could be any kind of effective mentor. Her acting career was not the kind that other actors would seek to aim for, or at least need guidance on. Thereafter, any success was down to who she married.
Eugenie a mentor? Again, she has no special attributes and only got where she is because of her title.
I think it's regressive to imagine that a royal duchess or princess can give us the benefit of their wisdom.
Getting women to mentor who have actually had to work hard and not rely on men and/or titles? A better idea.

MonteShitshow · 22/03/2025 09:02

BasiliskStare · 20/03/2025 16:48

@Mightymoog Thank you again.
I've just googled my dinner service where to sell and Christies sold one for £££s in 2021. Now 1. They had 35 plates / side plates cups and saucers and stuff but 2. it was from the collection of Mrs Henry Ford II ( who has more provenance than me 😂) Now I have - although fewer place settings more in each setting and all the tea / coffee set serving dishes etc. So I am going to email them and see if they are interested. I don't know if they do China in general but I'm going to ask. Probably not as I am only humble Mrs Basilisk from Basiliskville , Basilisk. But you have spurred me into action ! I will ask them where they recommend if not them. I did sell a lovely Arts and Crafts mirror though them once and they were very nice and easy to deal with. They do periodically do specialist auctions and not everything has to be worth a king's ransom.

Would you consider getting your wedding china made into tiered cake stands? I think you can DIY after testing out the drill bits etc on cheaper pieces, or there are places which will convert them for you. A bit twee but it might make a nice keepsake while you sell the rest (since you have pieces missing). Mind you, a tiered cake / or jewellery stand does take up significantly more room than a stack of plates. (Also, thank you for your positive post at the other place)

thenightsky · 22/03/2025 09:38

IcedPurple · 21/03/2025 17:15

Yes, it's very generic. More like a 'show house' than an actual lived in home.

And don't forget the court jester grinning at the window!

And who wears sky high sex in the city style heels like that for kicking around at home?

Harry looks like he's been put outside for barking too much and is now whining to be let back in. Meanwhile the dog is looking smug as he's been allowed to stay in.

DelectableMe · 22/03/2025 10:03

thenightsky · 22/03/2025 09:38

And who wears sky high sex in the city style heels like that for kicking around at home?

Harry looks like he's been put outside for barking too much and is now whining to be let back in. Meanwhile the dog is looking smug as he's been allowed to stay in.

😂😂
So true. I wonder what Harry does all day while his wife potters in the kitchen?

glitterturd · 22/03/2025 10:46

Re mentors - Meghan could probably write a book " how to get on in the world" or " how to claw your way to the top" or " how to find your voice ". To be fair to her she seems to have done some less than savoury things to get to where she is. The suitcase girl, the BBQ girl, the French maid and the BJ girl. She used the " girl who looks like she delivers the goods" and fair enough as we know the casting couch has been used against women for years. Many actresses have refused that route but Meghan's desire for fame obviously pre empted any reservations she may have had about that. She put herself about, she mingled with the right people, she hung about in the right places until she found that final stepping stone. She has persistence. She bagged Harry who was a better catch than Ashley Cole or Rory McIlroy. She certainly has worked to get where she has.

Mylovelygreendress · 22/03/2025 10:58

@GiveMeSpanakopita

“Surely it was the same for 40 x 40?
Also, what happened to that project? It's the one project of Meghan's that I felt was genuinely original and interesting, and although it may not have had much PR value, it could have had legs and done some good if managed properly. And sure you could get PR out of it too. Is she carrying it on behind the scenes or has it stuttered to a halt?”

I asked that very question a couple of years ago and was very snippily told by a poster who disappeared after Kate gate that Meghan wasn’t obliged to give updates !!
I was just curious.

jeffgoldblum · 22/03/2025 14:03

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/2025.03.20-180823/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14520227/meghan-markle-friend-prince-harry-markus-anderson-vanished-netflix-show.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.ph/2025.03.20-180823/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14520227/meghan-markle-friend-prince-harry-markus-anderson-vanished-netflix-show.html

im posting this here because at face value it seems just a puffy pr article!
but it’s extremely odd and if you read closely it’s quite something!
are journalists finally lifting the curtain and having a proper peek? Or are they paving the way for others to investigate? 🤔