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Meghan’s show IS something new and different.

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AtIusvue · 06/03/2025 13:08

So we have it wrong. THIS IS an entirely new format for a cookery/lifestyle show. Because it isn’t a cookery/lifestyle show. This is Netflix first foray into the world of informercials and they are doing it in NF style; meaning a big budget and a slight twist.

So With Love, Meghan is a 5hr advert for As ever and Meghan Sussex. But what makes it different; is it has been disguised as a lifestyle show and there’s no direct sales. It’s the soft sell…..very beige and subtle.

So every recipe and story Meghan shares, is designed around an As ever product. Even conversations with friends are designed to either sell Meghan or a product.

For example. In Ep 8, she makes shortbread with edible flowers. A packet mix of shortbread with edible flowers is now on the As ever website. Now on the show, we don’t see her open the box. But what we do see, is her giving a very quick run through of a basic dough recipe and then tell the viewer they can just use shop bought. The majority of the time isn’t spent in the baking, it’s spent on the decorating with edible flowers.
This is by design. All the baked goods she’s shows you on the programme, she says things like ‘I don’t enjoy baking’, ‘I’ve never made doughnuts before’, ‘ I only learned last week to make focaccia’ ‘I don’t like measuring’
So while viewers who are expecting to watch a cookery show, are flummoxed by someone with such little baking skills teaching us- it’s because it’s an advert and she’s selling the idea that the baking part isn’t important. So when the As ever baked goods mixes appear after the advert goes out, people will want to buy. Because they know that even Meghan doesn’t like baking. That it’s ok to skip that part, and focus on the decorating and gifting part.

This is soft selling infomercials. It’s a Netflix/QVC hybrid. She is directly selling you the idea and lifestyle, but softly selling you the products. You find out what these products are, after the show.

More examples-
Ep 1 where she makes an Epsom salt bath mix (As ever TM pending). The honey and ginger tea she shares with her friend Daniel is on the As ever website. Teapots are also intended to be sold. The raspberry jam that she uses in the cake she bakes (which again, is a very basic mix and she runs through quickly- because we know she wants to sell packets of the stuff) is now available in the website. As is the honey she used for the cake syrup.

So Ep 2, where we see Meghan make kids party bags. Included are kids gardening tools (which is under the As ever TM application) a honey stick (TM application ) and plant pots (TM application)

Everything is for sale. When in Ep. 7 Meghan puts shop bought croissants in a basket and decants jam into little ramekins, a quick look at the TM application confirms that these are all items she intends to sell under As ever.

How does the soft sell look?

Take for example the jam on the show. The label isn’t on the jar, so it’s not directly selling the brand, As ever. But it’s the same jar shape and we know that it’s raspberry because the cake is decorated with fresh raspberries on top, indicating the jam used. Or the crepe are served with the jam and fresh raspberry’s. It’s all very subtle. The raspeberry jam product then drops straight after the show.

The stories she shares are designed to sell too. For example; her memory of her gran making apple butter- she has fruit butters under her TM application.

Even conversations with friends are designed to sell not only Meghan (how wonderful she is) but they are designed to introduce products in the As ever line. So in Ep 5 we see Meghan’s friends Kelly and Abby discuss Meghans love of spicy condiments - these are under the As ever TM application. We also see Abby discuss Meghans love of flowers and how she helped her in her floral business. From the TM application, you can see it is As Ever’s intention to sell fresh flowers and plants. It’s also why we are given floral demonstrations with ‘supermarket’ flowers.

Conversations with her friend Vicky too in Ep 7, about how Meghan loves a polished skin look, while making face masks- again, we see As ever intends to sell non medicated skin products from the TM application.

The show is a practical demonstration of how to use her products, but the products are released after the advert. When you cross ref the TM application items with what was seen on screen, you see clearly that everything is designed for a sale. Crockery, candles,baskets, wrapping paper, jam etc.

Another tell that this is an infomercial hybrid, is the fact that they have said more As ever items will be released seasonally. Why? What’s seasonal about honey and ginger tea and crepe mix that it’s to come out in spring? These are store cupboard items, not seasonal products.
What they actually mean is, when a new advert comes out, new products will be introduced and added to the collection.

This is why all the press reviews for the show mean nothing. NF won’t care that’s it’s ridiculed. We have all just watched the advert they wanted us to watch. What they want is for it to translate into sales for As ever. It really doesn’t matter how much critical acclaim the show gets, as it’s just a vehicle for the products.
Additionally, we know from the TM application that As ever wants to enter the podcast world. So her new podcast will be in furtherance to the brand and selling the products. But again, it will be a soft sell, not direct.

So it IS a completely new style of cooking show. It goes beyond product placement but isn’t direct selling. I think meghan and NF think they have been very clever. At some point everyone will figure out these are just adverts and work out that every recipe, conversation and story, is linked to an item that you can buy on the As ever website straight after the show.

She’s not trying to be Martha Stewart, she wants to be the new Kathy Ireland ……Meghan Sussex. That’s why there’s been a name rebrand. It’s trying to copy the Kathys mega brand (huge in the US, unknown here) but direct selling her own products….but in a 2025 Netflix kinda way.

So the purpose of the informercial was to

1- introduce the name Meghan Sussex. That’s why they’ve included the car crash ticking off Mindy got- because at least it got her new brand name in. It’s the new Kathy Ireland.

2- To sell the new Meghan Sussex image. So throughout each episode, her friends fawn over her and tell her how amazing she is at everything- cooking, hosting, flower arrange etc.

3- To soft sell the lifestyle wirh generic, no label products first, then find out what the As ever products are after. I’m sure this is a way to get around not having to list the show as an advertisement. That’s also why the name of the show and her product line are different. So it’s not seen as traditional advertisement.

With her appearance on Drew Barrymore, she’s confirming the new brand name, confirming that she’s this super nice, working mom and that she has products to sell you.

Absolutely shameless and so underhand in my opinion……but it might work.

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BemusedAmerican · 18/03/2025 11:27

LaMarschallin · 18/03/2025 08:45

At least the "cutted up" waffle actually looks like it's risen.
The green blow-up doll ones look really flat and biscuity.

I think it's a standard "Eggo" waffle. They come frozen in a box and you toast them. They are flat to fit in a toaster. Maybe she soaked them in green syrup. The only time I've had a freshly made waffle was in a diner.

https://www.leggomyeggo.com/en_US/products/waffles.html
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smilesy · 18/03/2025 11:40

Do we think the green Irish themed waffle has appeared because of Catherine being out and about on St Patrick’s day? I don’t recall any Irish themed breakfast articles form Montecito last year 🤷‍♀️

User14March · 18/03/2025 11:50

Maybe she made with kids off video - cute if so.

pursuitOfSomething · 18/03/2025 12:11

I sometimes do food stuff for St David's day and other calendar days- sometimes don't bother depends on life - and peak time for doing this was primary school years and most often it was with the kids input.

On other hand there is well reported pattern of her posting or seeking press round big RF events. I also have got impression from media - possibly wrong - that she not a hands on mum - picture of her holding them like it was odd occurance - odd generic way she talks about them in press - long periods of time away when they have option not to be - there could be other reasons for all this.

Ultimately though it's green waffles - that look decidely meh - but most people posting such a picture no one would care - but having done a entire TV show mostly about presentation and looking like she trying to sell products off back of that - it's a really odd thing to post - it doesn't help the brand. If your selling a lifestyle you apparently live you need publicly to live up to it as much as possible not undermine it.

I think it's another problem between what's private and public like they have between formal and informal - it's a blury mess that confuses everyone.

LaMarschallin · 18/03/2025 12:38

smilesy · 18/03/2025 11:40

Do we think the green Irish themed waffle has appeared because of Catherine being out and about on St Patrick’s day? I don’t recall any Irish themed breakfast articles form Montecito last year 🤷‍♀️

It's hard to know, isn't it?
My feeling is that, since St Patrick's day is always on March 17th, it shouldn't have taken her by surprise. She had plenty of time to prepare something to put out that looked a little less thrown together.
But maybe she wanted to make it look like a last minute thought for some reason.
Her "playfulness" that she often mentions perhaps.

smilesy · 18/03/2025 12:41

LaMarschallin · 18/03/2025 12:38

It's hard to know, isn't it?
My feeling is that, since St Patrick's day is always on March 17th, it shouldn't have taken her by surprise. She had plenty of time to prepare something to put out that looked a little less thrown together.
But maybe she wanted to make it look like a last minute thought for some reason.
Her "playfulness" that she often mentions perhaps.

I thought it wasn’t so much “thrown together” as “thrown up”. Possibly by the dog

TemuRoyal · 18/03/2025 12:58

Squirty cream? S*x doll mouth? Haitch’s eyes? Is it a cry for help?

BasiliskStare · 18/03/2025 13:34

BelfastBug · 18/03/2025 11:15

Its quite funny about the close set eyes.....but they have to sit in the squares - only other alternative is wide set which would also be hilariously daft.

Even with the hangover you are right here. Hadn't thought about that not being a wafflle maker myself. Can't you fix them with a bit of cream though as she did with the strawberry cake. Perhaps it isn't firm enough.
I'm not Irish but I too thought a bit lame and shoe-horned.
💚☘ (whereas a crap shamrock emoji is entirely respectful of your culture - sorry ! Why on earth doesn't it come out bigger and green ? ) 😂

glitterturd · 18/03/2025 15:52

25 bucks for a cake mix you have to do yourself? Pah! I would be getting this delivered from established bakers in Montecito. They must be laughing at these attempts.

Meghan’s show IS something new and different.
Meghan’s show IS something new and different.
MonteShitshow · 18/03/2025 19:22

That green is unlikely to be real matcha. Matcha should be a much more natural and leafy green. The waffle green looks like the result of blue spirulina powder mixed with the yellow of eggs 🤢

Sheepishly I have to admit I watched episode one in the background today, and I found it quite pleasant because I lowered my expectations tremendously after the reviews. Daniel is a sweet sweet person, so keen to please. Everyone needs a cheerleader friend like that. (I didn’t notice the popcorn on the counter as I wasn’t looking at the screen!)

The food from the episode looks way better than the turquoise waffles. Thus I have no objection to multiple edits.

BasiliskStare · 18/03/2025 19:54

@jeffgoldblum Ocado cabbage large bowl arrived today. Just lovely , it's the paler green. May have to get another but this will mean major cupboard sorting so inertia will probably kick in to the benefit of my purse. I caved and bought two small white ones for snackettes A lot of joy for a very modest price . 😊 I am a simple soul at heart.

jeffgoldblum · 18/03/2025 20:06

BasiliskStare · 18/03/2025 19:54

@jeffgoldblum Ocado cabbage large bowl arrived today. Just lovely , it's the paler green. May have to get another but this will mean major cupboard sorting so inertia will probably kick in to the benefit of my purse. I caved and bought two small white ones for snackettes A lot of joy for a very modest price . 😊 I am a simple soul at heart.

Oh I am glad @BasiliskStare!
I do love a pretty or quirky plate or bowl too ! Dare I say it but nice things in the kitchen really elevates the feeling! 🤣
recently ( for my 50th birthday!) I decided to get rid of my everyday plates and cutlery, bring out my good stuff and buy more exciting things to use every day !
my new cutlery ( two different sets ) match my two different sets of plates and really makes me happy!

jeffgoldblum · 18/03/2025 20:26

@BasiliskStareat the risk of outing my plate drawer! I’m going against myself to show you my plates! 🤣

Meghan’s show IS something new and different.
DelectableMe · 18/03/2025 20:29

Oooh, Jeff I love your plates! I have proper plate envy!
That orange colour is just gorgeous 😍

glitterturd · 18/03/2025 20:31

CathyorClaire · 18/03/2025 10:48

That waffle 😂

Is it a sweet nod (as it were) to her role in '90210'?

Naughty 😂

BasiliskStare · 18/03/2025 20:33

@jeffgoldblum That sounds good to me. I have a 12 setting dinner service with all the bits and pieces you can imagine , Wedgwood (its the one you see on Poirot) which was a wedding present ( well, lots of people bought bits ) But because it has a gold trim it can't go in the dishwasher . I have two sideboards and this is taking up all of the biggest one. And I no longer have a table which seats 12. So a bit of a white elephant even if lovely.It would be a shame but I sometimes think if I could find someone to buy the whole lot I would sell it. It does have some sentimental attachment though and does look nice at Christmas , high days and holidays etc but it gets shockingly little use. As and when my son settles down in his own house I might split it into 2 and give him a 6 place setting .Day to day we are using John Lewis every day / house. Not expensive , quite tasteful but dull. I'm going to keep an eye out for pretty / quirky things for a bit of interest.

And people wonder why I hang around on these boards - I would not have known abut the cabbage bowls otherwise 😋 Good a reason as any

jeffgoldblum · 18/03/2025 20:33

DelectableMe · 18/03/2025 20:29

Oooh, Jeff I love your plates! I have proper plate envy!
That orange colour is just gorgeous 😍

Thanks @DelectableMe! But my photo skills are crap!! The plates are bright red!! ( my favourite colour!) 😀

jeffgoldblum · 18/03/2025 20:36

BasiliskStare · 18/03/2025 20:33

@jeffgoldblum That sounds good to me. I have a 12 setting dinner service with all the bits and pieces you can imagine , Wedgwood (its the one you see on Poirot) which was a wedding present ( well, lots of people bought bits ) But because it has a gold trim it can't go in the dishwasher . I have two sideboards and this is taking up all of the biggest one. And I no longer have a table which seats 12. So a bit of a white elephant even if lovely.It would be a shame but I sometimes think if I could find someone to buy the whole lot I would sell it. It does have some sentimental attachment though and does look nice at Christmas , high days and holidays etc but it gets shockingly little use. As and when my son settles down in his own house I might split it into 2 and give him a 6 place setting .Day to day we are using John Lewis every day / house. Not expensive , quite tasteful but dull. I'm going to keep an eye out for pretty / quirky things for a bit of interest.

And people wonder why I hang around on these boards - I would not have known abut the cabbage bowls otherwise 😋 Good a reason as any

I know ! It’s a wrench and takes a hard heart and total disregard of money saving!!
I actually got rid of my wedding cutlery canteen!! My mum was aghast!
but bugger it! 🤣

BasiliskStare · 18/03/2025 20:36

@DelectableMe - I very much like the blue ones. It could only be the work of a moment to do a Raffles style heist of Jeff's crockery and split the loot. (Don't tell @jeffgoldblum ) 🙊.

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jeffgoldblum · 18/03/2025 20:39

🤣🤣🤣 hands off!! The blue set half was a real Japanese set from John Lewis 15 years ago!! Discontinued and the plates were the closet match ! , thankgod I didn’t take a photo of the cutlery! ( drawer is very messy though!) 🤣🤣

Ellmau · 18/03/2025 20:41

glitterturd · 18/03/2025 10:43

Ok I thought the green waffles were a joke but no... 😬 I should tick sensitive image here 😂

To be fair, they're making us all laugh. It's just not the effect Meghan was presumably going for..

DelectableMe · 18/03/2025 20:42

jeffgoldblum · 18/03/2025 20:33

Thanks @DelectableMe! But my photo skills are crap!! The plates are bright red!! ( my favourite colour!) 😀

Ah! Even better. Red is my favourite colour...after orange, and bright green.
(All the colours Meg wasn't allowed to wear as a royal 😂!)

DelectableMe · 18/03/2025 20:43

BasiliskStare · 18/03/2025 20:36

@DelectableMe - I very much like the blue ones. It could only be the work of a moment to do a Raffles style heist of Jeff's crockery and split the loot. (Don't tell @jeffgoldblum ) 🙊.

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sets satnav to Basilisk's house
Ok, lets get out the planning paper....😎

DelectableMe · 18/03/2025 20:44

Ellmau · 18/03/2025 20:41

To be fair, they're making us all laugh. It's just not the effect Meghan was presumably going for..

😂😂

jeffgoldblum · 18/03/2025 20:44

🤣🤣🤣