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Meghan’s show IS something new and different.

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AtIusvue · 06/03/2025 13:08

So we have it wrong. THIS IS an entirely new format for a cookery/lifestyle show. Because it isn’t a cookery/lifestyle show. This is Netflix first foray into the world of informercials and they are doing it in NF style; meaning a big budget and a slight twist.

So With Love, Meghan is a 5hr advert for As ever and Meghan Sussex. But what makes it different; is it has been disguised as a lifestyle show and there’s no direct sales. It’s the soft sell…..very beige and subtle.

So every recipe and story Meghan shares, is designed around an As ever product. Even conversations with friends are designed to either sell Meghan or a product.

For example. In Ep 8, she makes shortbread with edible flowers. A packet mix of shortbread with edible flowers is now on the As ever website. Now on the show, we don’t see her open the box. But what we do see, is her giving a very quick run through of a basic dough recipe and then tell the viewer they can just use shop bought. The majority of the time isn’t spent in the baking, it’s spent on the decorating with edible flowers.
This is by design. All the baked goods she’s shows you on the programme, she says things like ‘I don’t enjoy baking’, ‘I’ve never made doughnuts before’, ‘ I only learned last week to make focaccia’ ‘I don’t like measuring’
So while viewers who are expecting to watch a cookery show, are flummoxed by someone with such little baking skills teaching us- it’s because it’s an advert and she’s selling the idea that the baking part isn’t important. So when the As ever baked goods mixes appear after the advert goes out, people will want to buy. Because they know that even Meghan doesn’t like baking. That it’s ok to skip that part, and focus on the decorating and gifting part.

This is soft selling infomercials. It’s a Netflix/QVC hybrid. She is directly selling you the idea and lifestyle, but softly selling you the products. You find out what these products are, after the show.

More examples-
Ep 1 where she makes an Epsom salt bath mix (As ever TM pending). The honey and ginger tea she shares with her friend Daniel is on the As ever website. Teapots are also intended to be sold. The raspberry jam that she uses in the cake she bakes (which again, is a very basic mix and she runs through quickly- because we know she wants to sell packets of the stuff) is now available in the website. As is the honey she used for the cake syrup.

So Ep 2, where we see Meghan make kids party bags. Included are kids gardening tools (which is under the As ever TM application) a honey stick (TM application ) and plant pots (TM application)

Everything is for sale. When in Ep. 7 Meghan puts shop bought croissants in a basket and decants jam into little ramekins, a quick look at the TM application confirms that these are all items she intends to sell under As ever.

How does the soft sell look?

Take for example the jam on the show. The label isn’t on the jar, so it’s not directly selling the brand, As ever. But it’s the same jar shape and we know that it’s raspberry because the cake is decorated with fresh raspberries on top, indicating the jam used. Or the crepe are served with the jam and fresh raspberry’s. It’s all very subtle. The raspeberry jam product then drops straight after the show.

The stories she shares are designed to sell too. For example; her memory of her gran making apple butter- she has fruit butters under her TM application.

Even conversations with friends are designed to sell not only Meghan (how wonderful she is) but they are designed to introduce products in the As ever line. So in Ep 5 we see Meghan’s friends Kelly and Abby discuss Meghans love of spicy condiments - these are under the As ever TM application. We also see Abby discuss Meghans love of flowers and how she helped her in her floral business. From the TM application, you can see it is As Ever’s intention to sell fresh flowers and plants. It’s also why we are given floral demonstrations with ‘supermarket’ flowers.

Conversations with her friend Vicky too in Ep 7, about how Meghan loves a polished skin look, while making face masks- again, we see As ever intends to sell non medicated skin products from the TM application.

The show is a practical demonstration of how to use her products, but the products are released after the advert. When you cross ref the TM application items with what was seen on screen, you see clearly that everything is designed for a sale. Crockery, candles,baskets, wrapping paper, jam etc.

Another tell that this is an infomercial hybrid, is the fact that they have said more As ever items will be released seasonally. Why? What’s seasonal about honey and ginger tea and crepe mix that it’s to come out in spring? These are store cupboard items, not seasonal products.
What they actually mean is, when a new advert comes out, new products will be introduced and added to the collection.

This is why all the press reviews for the show mean nothing. NF won’t care that’s it’s ridiculed. We have all just watched the advert they wanted us to watch. What they want is for it to translate into sales for As ever. It really doesn’t matter how much critical acclaim the show gets, as it’s just a vehicle for the products.
Additionally, we know from the TM application that As ever wants to enter the podcast world. So her new podcast will be in furtherance to the brand and selling the products. But again, it will be a soft sell, not direct.

So it IS a completely new style of cooking show. It goes beyond product placement but isn’t direct selling. I think meghan and NF think they have been very clever. At some point everyone will figure out these are just adverts and work out that every recipe, conversation and story, is linked to an item that you can buy on the As ever website straight after the show.

She’s not trying to be Martha Stewart, she wants to be the new Kathy Ireland ……Meghan Sussex. That’s why there’s been a name rebrand. It’s trying to copy the Kathys mega brand (huge in the US, unknown here) but direct selling her own products….but in a 2025 Netflix kinda way.

So the purpose of the informercial was to

1- introduce the name Meghan Sussex. That’s why they’ve included the car crash ticking off Mindy got- because at least it got her new brand name in. It’s the new Kathy Ireland.

2- To sell the new Meghan Sussex image. So throughout each episode, her friends fawn over her and tell her how amazing she is at everything- cooking, hosting, flower arrange etc.

3- To soft sell the lifestyle wirh generic, no label products first, then find out what the As ever products are after. I’m sure this is a way to get around not having to list the show as an advertisement. That’s also why the name of the show and her product line are different. So it’s not seen as traditional advertisement.

With her appearance on Drew Barrymore, she’s confirming the new brand name, confirming that she’s this super nice, working mom and that she has products to sell you.

Absolutely shameless and so underhand in my opinion……but it might work.

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TemuRoyal · 18/03/2025 06:37

Apparently the waffle is shop bought as the pattern doesn’t match the waffle maker.

DelectableMe · 18/03/2025 06:59

TemuRoyal · 18/03/2025 06:37

Apparently the waffle is shop bought as the pattern doesn’t match the waffle maker.

Oh dear.....

AtIusvue · 18/03/2025 07:57

Urgh, you just know that it’s matcha powder used to make it green and a health drink.

I can see Harry now, at the breakfast table, eyeing Lily's and Archie’s plates to make sure they didn’t get more squirty cream than him

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BasiliskStare · 18/03/2025 08:30

JADS · 18/03/2025 06:16

I thought the same thing. It's disturbing.

Just cut the kiwi slice in half and you get a smile or use a strawberry.

Yes yes. And also if you didn't have the blueberry eyes so close together that would have reduced its disturbingness even further.

@TemuRoyal "Apparently the waffle is shop bought as the pattern doesn’t match the waffle maker." Excellent - this is the sort of top quality observational skills I have come to expect on these threads 😂

JADS · 18/03/2025 08:33

BasiliskStare · 18/03/2025 08:30

Yes yes. And also if you didn't have the blueberry eyes so close together that would have reduced its disturbingness even further.

@TemuRoyal "Apparently the waffle is shop bought as the pattern doesn’t match the waffle maker." Excellent - this is the sort of top quality observational skills I have come to expect on these threads 😂

The close set blueberry eyes remind me of Harry.

Maybe she has a 2nd less Instagram able waffle maker for the kids waffles? I wonder which one the Queen gave Archie?

Serenster · 18/03/2025 08:35

TemuRoyal · 18/03/2025 06:37

Apparently the waffle is shop bought as the pattern doesn’t match the waffle maker.

Here’s the side-by-side comparison from the reel Meghan posted. As you can clearly see, the two don’t match.

As ever, Meghan struggles with authenticity.

Meghan’s show IS something new and different.
myrtleWilson · 18/03/2025 08:38

To be fair the “cutted up” waffle does look like the quartering on the machine - maybe the children have their own waffle maker

Serenster · 18/03/2025 08:42

Well, she’s rich, she could easily have two 🤣

For me it’s more the fact that even a simple video of a cute breakfast she made for her children is not what it seems. Nothing ever is with Meghan is the overriding theme we get from her - hence why I said she struggles with authenticity. It’s like the first video from her instagram where she ran, carefree and spontaneous … past the evidence of an earlier take.

Mylovelygreendress · 18/03/2025 08:43

Whatever happened to her freakish attention to detail ??

LaMarschallin · 18/03/2025 08:45

At least the "cutted up" waffle actually looks like it's risen.
The green blow-up doll ones look really flat and biscuity.

jeffgoldblum · 18/03/2025 08:50

Serenster · 18/03/2025 08:35

Here’s the side-by-side comparison from the reel Meghan posted. As you can clearly see, the two don’t match.

As ever, Meghan struggles with authenticity.

Obviously the large kiwi in the middle was to hide the fact there is no cross in the middle like there should be from the actual waffle maker! 🙄

RevolutionaryMode · 18/03/2025 09:14

I’m not sure why people are stuck on demanding authenticity from a cooking and lifestyle show.

Meghan does multiple takes when needed. And who cares that she’s running past the partial writing in the sand left over from an earlier shot?

Multiple takes are used all the time in filming most things, and it is not unusual to have little mistakes (like writing in the sand from a previous take). What is unusual is a lot of people pouring over every frame to find the faults. And then calling it out when they find one.

Meghan has not pretended she’s a run of the mill content creator videoing in her own kitchen with an iPhone and a ring light. Her Netflix show would be quite expensive to shoot. It looks like it is expensive.

My guess is that Catherine and William’s very expensive productions also had multiple takes of many scenes. The last one was gorgeous to look at. The coronation one was brilliant and very grand and impressive. Were they authentic or inauthentic? I feel confident that if people poured over those videos with as critical an eye as they do to anything Meghan does, they’d see things that showed scenes that had already been shot at least once before. And that different takes were edited together to look continuous.

jeffgoldblum · 18/03/2025 10:14

RevolutionaryMode · 18/03/2025 09:14

I’m not sure why people are stuck on demanding authenticity from a cooking and lifestyle show.

Meghan does multiple takes when needed. And who cares that she’s running past the partial writing in the sand left over from an earlier shot?

Multiple takes are used all the time in filming most things, and it is not unusual to have little mistakes (like writing in the sand from a previous take). What is unusual is a lot of people pouring over every frame to find the faults. And then calling it out when they find one.

Meghan has not pretended she’s a run of the mill content creator videoing in her own kitchen with an iPhone and a ring light. Her Netflix show would be quite expensive to shoot. It looks like it is expensive.

My guess is that Catherine and William’s very expensive productions also had multiple takes of many scenes. The last one was gorgeous to look at. The coronation one was brilliant and very grand and impressive. Were they authentic or inauthentic? I feel confident that if people poured over those videos with as critical an eye as they do to anything Meghan does, they’d see things that showed scenes that had already been shot at least once before. And that different takes were edited together to look continuous.

Edited

What are you talking about?
keep up!
we are discussing meghans own content she put out on her instagram!
so yes she is pretending that she filmed it with her own phone in her kitchen!
and if the pictures of the green waffles were edited and reshot, one would wonder why she chose the worst ones!

SpreadingJammyTodgerLove · 18/03/2025 10:21

Mylovelygreendress · 18/03/2025 08:43

Whatever happened to her freakish attention to detail ??

Have you seen all the comments about the popcorn? That while she was apparently showing us how to make popcorn from a corn on the cob, there's a packet of instant/microwave popcorn clearly visible on the counter.

jeffgoldblum · 18/03/2025 10:23

SpreadingJammyTodgerLove · 18/03/2025 10:21

Have you seen all the comments about the popcorn? That while she was apparently showing us how to make popcorn from a corn on the cob, there's a packet of instant/microwave popcorn clearly visible on the counter.

Yes that was very amusing!
and led to people speculating that whoever did the editing left it in on purpose! 🤔🤣

SpreadingJammyTodgerLove · 18/03/2025 10:26

LaMarschallin · 18/03/2025 08:45

At least the "cutted up" waffle actually looks like it's risen.
The green blow-up doll ones look really flat and biscuity.

I think it's probably a case of her seeing some green ones in a store (don't say shop), thinking she'd copy the idea at home, the results being less than perfect, so using the shop store bought one for the final picture. Complete with a close- set eyed, Harry sex doll makeover to distract from the fakery.

Serenster · 18/03/2025 10:33

RevolutionaryMode · 18/03/2025 09:14

I’m not sure why people are stuck on demanding authenticity from a cooking and lifestyle show.

Meghan does multiple takes when needed. And who cares that she’s running past the partial writing in the sand left over from an earlier shot?

Multiple takes are used all the time in filming most things, and it is not unusual to have little mistakes (like writing in the sand from a previous take). What is unusual is a lot of people pouring over every frame to find the faults. And then calling it out when they find one.

Meghan has not pretended she’s a run of the mill content creator videoing in her own kitchen with an iPhone and a ring light. Her Netflix show would be quite expensive to shoot. It looks like it is expensive.

My guess is that Catherine and William’s very expensive productions also had multiple takes of many scenes. The last one was gorgeous to look at. The coronation one was brilliant and very grand and impressive. Were they authentic or inauthentic? I feel confident that if people poured over those videos with as critical an eye as they do to anything Meghan does, they’d see things that showed scenes that had already been shot at least once before. And that different takes were edited together to look continuous.

Edited

Hmmm. Wasn’t it Meghan’s fans that absolutely excoriated Kate for publishing a family photo that had been photoshopped?

jeffgoldblum · 18/03/2025 10:35

Serenster · 18/03/2025 10:33

Hmmm. Wasn’t it Meghan’s fans that absolutely excoriated Kate for publishing a family photo that had been photoshopped?

Indeed a very sorry chapter for mn !
and complete carpet sweeping from those involved.

MinionKevin · 18/03/2025 10:38

I saw a dad making his kids leprechaun pancakes, they were cute. This is not cute.

glitterturd · 18/03/2025 10:40

@RevolutionaryModedon't you see what you have said that is wrong ? Expensive means it should be right . As you said it's not using a ring light.

glitterturd · 18/03/2025 10:43

Ok I thought the green waffles were a joke but no... 😬 I should tick sensitive image here 😂

Meghan’s show IS something new and different.
glitterturd · 18/03/2025 10:44

AtIusvue · 18/03/2025 07:57

Urgh, you just know that it’s matcha powder used to make it green and a health drink.

I can see Harry now, at the breakfast table, eyeing Lily's and Archie’s plates to make sure they didn’t get more squirty cream than him

Yes 😂😂😂😂

CathyorClaire · 18/03/2025 10:48

That waffle 😂

Is it a sweet nod (as it were) to her role in '90210'?

BelfastBug · 18/03/2025 11:15

glitterturd · 18/03/2025 10:43

Ok I thought the green waffles were a joke but no... 😬 I should tick sensitive image here 😂

Its quite funny about the close set eyes.....but they have to sit in the squares - only other alternative is wide set which would also be hilariously daft.

BelfastBug · 18/03/2025 11:20

Also I am Irish and welcome anyone and everyone to celebrate - but this 'effort' is sloppy, ugly, lazy, lame - it almost feels an insult. But maybe I am being too precious (probs I am a bit sensitive with the hangover) - but if this is your contribution to acknowledge a culture ... then maybe dont bother. 💚