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Mylovelygreendress · 03/03/2025 09:29

AtIusvue · 03/03/2025 09:15

Anyone feel the momentum for the show is gone? Even her instas aren’t getting the headlines they did. And as time goes on that will continue.

With everything that’s happening in the US/world , it feels pointless.

I was always going to watch, mainly for the entertainment. But even I feel …meh.

Exactly . The world is holding its breath ; not for WLM but to see if we are hurtling towards WW3 .

Jacquettes · 03/03/2025 09:34

Baital · 03/03/2025 06:07

The Daily Mail is now a valid source! 😂

That's all very possible, but makes it strange that she used to say what a great father he was on her social media.

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I don’t think many news organizations other than the Daily Mail and maybe one other, are going to go to the trouble of contacting Rosalyn - Thomas’s first wife - or anyone else Meghan knows peripherally. Occasionally they print a different type of story about Meghan. And this time, people are named and quoted - not ‘unnamed sources’ or ‘those with knowledge’ or ‘insider’ or ‘friend of family’ - I pay no attention to those stories because, by this point, the ‘unnnamed source’ at that level of ‘journalism’ could be the empty chair next to the journalist’s desk.

Choose to believe it or don’t. But it’s more believable than a lot of the conjecture I read on here that people want to believe is ‘truth.’

People who are related to Thomas have criticised him as a parent and as a grandparent, so perhaps people should rethink their stance that Thomas was a great dad. It sounds like he wasn’t all that great.

Sometimes it takes a while for a child to realize who their parent really is. That is true. They will cling to a fictional version of a parent because they want to believe that parent is good and loves them unconditionally. People can do this well into adulthood. Whether it’s true of Meghan though is only conjecture. I’ve read stories about good things Thomas did for Meghan too. But I’ve also read stuff that puts him in a pretty bad light. Having read what I’ve read about the man I suspect it’s not the case that Thomas is a wonderful dad and his daughter is unreasonable & ungrateful. He seems to be very interested in seeing his 2 royal grandchildren to the point of being willing to sue, but meanwhile has no interest in relationships with his other 5 non royal grandchildren.

Grrrpredictivetex · 03/03/2025 10:07

BemusedAmerican · 02/03/2025 16:51

Try the archive link:

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NormaMajors1992coat · 03/03/2025 10:12

People who are related to Thomas have criticised him as a parent and as a grandparent, so perhaps people should rethink their stance that Thomas was a great dad. It sounds like he wasn’t all that great.

Surely you could equally say that people who are related to Thomas have said he was a good parent so perhaps people should rethink their stance that he was not? Is there any reason to believe one version over the other (except for fitting a preferred narrative of Meghan's of course)?

ShittyMon · 03/03/2025 10:19

I agree with you. If I’d had a friend in this situation, I’d be quite worried about the speed and extent of the estrangement and I’d be taking extra care to check that they are safe, happy and know that they can mobilise our friends and me for support.

I think it is somehow his fame and the publicity surrounding their every move that makes it sound like he’s doing fine in his projects and busily carrying on with life, when it could just be re-reporting or mis-reporting that has amplified the message of him being ok. If I ignore all the media reports and hearsay, I think he looks like he’s lonely and totally removed from his normal life.

Can’t condone the dck moves against his relatives though, he has no excuse for that behaviour. If my friend did that, I’d be giving them a proper boll*king after they were safely removed from the situation.

So damaging for an already damaged person. It’s gg to take more than arm tapping to deal with this.

NormaMajors1992coat · 03/03/2025 10:19

And surely, without knowing all the ins and outs, it's best not to criticise him for being out of touch with members of his family - Meghan and Harry have made rather a habit of that after all.

ShittyMon · 03/03/2025 10:20

Sorry, I’d meant to quote @IcedPurple in my comment.

User14March · 03/03/2025 10:21

Whatever Thomas’s failings as a father he provided an excellent education for her without which she likely wouldn’t have had the same trajectory. Presumably Samantha & Thomas Jr didn’t have the benefit of this & it shows perhaps.

Grrrpredictivetex · 03/03/2025 10:23

LovelyJubly12 · 03/03/2025 08:00

I wonder… all the gushing about her father that turned out to be play acting. The gushing about her mother . The gushing about her wonderful marriage and the perfect love she and Harry have. The gushing about her perfect children. Is it all the same pattern?

I for one would like Thomas Markle to write a book. Surely he'd make much needed money from telling all.
Or have him and Doria had to sign NDA's?

BasiliskStare · 03/03/2025 10:39

NormaMajors1992coat · 03/03/2025 10:12

People who are related to Thomas have criticised him as a parent and as a grandparent, so perhaps people should rethink their stance that Thomas was a great dad. It sounds like he wasn’t all that great.

Surely you could equally say that people who are related to Thomas have said he was a good parent so perhaps people should rethink their stance that he was not? Is there any reason to believe one version over the other (except for fitting a preferred narrative of Meghan's of course)?

@NormaMajors1992coat I suspect , and it is only my opinion, that , as so often , the truth lies somewhere between the two

LovelyJubly12 · 03/03/2025 10:42

Grrrpredictivetex · 03/03/2025 10:23

I for one would like Thomas Markle to write a book. Surely he'd make much needed money from telling all.
Or have him and Doria had to sign NDA's?

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No one could force them to sign DNAs! He’s certainly had enough to say via the media.

LovelyJubly12 · 03/03/2025 10:43

User14March · 03/03/2025 10:21

Whatever Thomas’s failings as a father he provided an excellent education for her without which she likely wouldn’t have had the same trajectory. Presumably Samantha & Thomas Jr didn’t have the benefit of this & it shows perhaps.

He was also a consistent parent in taking care of her, unlike her mother. She is often called classy etc but she essentially left Thomas to bring Meghan up.He seems to have done his best although I’m sure he had many failings.

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 03/03/2025 10:53

He may have been a good father or he may not.

Having been a family solicitor for a number of years (now retired) no one knows what goes on behind closed doors.

Vespanest · 03/03/2025 11:00

I'm just curious on the level of support Meghan has, it really hasn't been tested and tomorrow and the next few weeks will bring some answers, will it be impressive or a Polo, will it keep the viewers it gets. I know they both bring viewers if the subject matter is Harry's family but if that is stripped away what's left. The book and the rest brought in the mega cash but was it the wrong plan long term. That's why it's fascinating, how different would their selling power be if they had access to Charles, William and Catherine. If Meghan did a Catherine's shared plum jam recipe, or this Charles favourite honey. Sometimes the arguments get caught up in who you think is right and wrong rather than the damage that has been inflicted and even self inflicted. The instagram followers are still stuck, even lilibet and aunty Serena didn't have the desired effect.

Dolaly · 03/03/2025 11:08

Vespanest · 03/03/2025 11:00

I'm just curious on the level of support Meghan has, it really hasn't been tested and tomorrow and the next few weeks will bring some answers, will it be impressive or a Polo, will it keep the viewers it gets. I know they both bring viewers if the subject matter is Harry's family but if that is stripped away what's left. The book and the rest brought in the mega cash but was it the wrong plan long term. That's why it's fascinating, how different would their selling power be if they had access to Charles, William and Catherine. If Meghan did a Catherine's shared plum jam recipe, or this Charles favourite honey. Sometimes the arguments get caught up in who you think is right and wrong rather than the damage that has been inflicted and even self inflicted. The instagram followers are still stuck, even lilibet and aunty Serena didn't have the desired effect.

Meghan is being released during a really slow month of releases for Netflix, not much new stuff being released during March, lots of re releases of older movies,

Drive to Survive S7 is released on March 7th, so that will go straight to No.1 and it usually stays there for several weeks, I think her show will possibly be in the top 10 for at least 1 week, by virtue of there being little else to watch.

All their usual media outlets are promoting it, I think the first few episodes will garner a lot of interest from a curiosity perspective, but I don't think it will have much longevity.

Dolaly · 03/03/2025 11:14

I think Thomas Markle was abhorrent in how he behaved towards his adult daughter, even though it does appear Meghan was his golden child. If he really was a shitty parent, I think her public glowing praise and compliments about him as a father, would have made him believe otherwise.

Regrettably, I think Meghan is a chip off the old block in how she treats family and friends.

MissFenellaPrism · 03/03/2025 11:19

Dolaly · 03/03/2025 11:14

I think Thomas Markle was abhorrent in how he behaved towards his adult daughter, even though it does appear Meghan was his golden child. If he really was a shitty parent, I think her public glowing praise and compliments about him as a father, would have made him believe otherwise.

Regrettably, I think Meghan is a chip off the old block in how she treats family and friends.

The trouble is, Meghan is an unreliable narrator, as has been proven many times over. So it's difficult to know what to believe.

jeffgoldblum · 03/03/2025 11:20

NormaMajors1992coat · 03/03/2025 10:12

People who are related to Thomas have criticised him as a parent and as a grandparent, so perhaps people should rethink their stance that Thomas was a great dad. It sounds like he wasn’t all that great.

Surely you could equally say that people who are related to Thomas have said he was a good parent so perhaps people should rethink their stance that he was not? Is there any reason to believe one version over the other (except for fitting a preferred narrative of Meghan's of course)?

Yes obviously his ex wife will have no axes to grind of course!

IcedPurple · 03/03/2025 11:22

Vespanest · 03/03/2025 11:00

I'm just curious on the level of support Meghan has, it really hasn't been tested and tomorrow and the next few weeks will bring some answers, will it be impressive or a Polo, will it keep the viewers it gets. I know they both bring viewers if the subject matter is Harry's family but if that is stripped away what's left. The book and the rest brought in the mega cash but was it the wrong plan long term. That's why it's fascinating, how different would their selling power be if they had access to Charles, William and Catherine. If Meghan did a Catherine's shared plum jam recipe, or this Charles favourite honey. Sometimes the arguments get caught up in who you think is right and wrong rather than the damage that has been inflicted and even self inflicted. The instagram followers are still stuck, even lilibet and aunty Serena didn't have the desired effect.

Yes, it's going to be interesting to see how this pans out.

Polo didn't even make a ripple, so it will definitely do better than that. Two big differences in its favour is that Meghan will be in front of the camera, and that it has got a fair bit of promotion both from Meghan herself and NF. Polo was about a rich person's sport that few people are interested in, Harry didn't appear himself, and he and NF did nothing to promote it. It was doomed to be a flop really.

A poster above makes a good point about how this is a quiet period for NF, so my guess is that it will reach the Top Ten, but only very briefly. I don't think 'hate watching' is really a thing, and unless the show turns out to be unexpectedly good, I can't see it sustaining much interest beyond initial curiosity.

MissFenellaPrism · 03/03/2025 11:24

Meghan, like many ambitious celebrities who hustle, has "curated" her life. We've heard many risible claims over the years.
When writing The Tig, her Dad was portrayed - in glowing terms - as a loving, generous and kind father. Now he's not. What to believe?

User14March · 03/03/2025 11:25

LovelyJubly12 · 03/03/2025 10:43

He was also a consistent parent in taking care of her, unlike her mother. She is often called classy etc but she essentially left Thomas to bring Meghan up.He seems to have done his best although I’m sure he had many failings.

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Yes, bringing her to sets etc speaks well of him I think, doing his best. Likely not easy. The ‘uncool’ parent perhaps.

Stickystickysticky · 03/03/2025 11:27

I'm just listening to someone talking about the views and likes on the AE trailer and the number of likes and views doesn't really tally with how many followers Meghan has , I understand that not all followers would watch the trailer but 1.5k likes and 103k views seems a small amount considering how many followers she has .

MissFenellaPrism · 03/03/2025 11:29

User14March · 03/03/2025 11:25

Yes, bringing her to sets etc speaks well of him I think, doing his best. Likely not easy. The ‘uncool’ parent perhaps.

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He certainly seemed to support her, sending her to a good school and university, paying for tap and ballet lessons, meals in good restaurants, paying for her car and petrol as an adult, helping her to get auditions. That she was a very privileged, middle class young woman is not in doubt.
However. More stories may emerge.

BasiliskStare · 03/03/2025 11:49

IcedPurple · 03/03/2025 11:22

Yes, it's going to be interesting to see how this pans out.

Polo didn't even make a ripple, so it will definitely do better than that. Two big differences in its favour is that Meghan will be in front of the camera, and that it has got a fair bit of promotion both from Meghan herself and NF. Polo was about a rich person's sport that few people are interested in, Harry didn't appear himself, and he and NF did nothing to promote it. It was doomed to be a flop really.

A poster above makes a good point about how this is a quiet period for NF, so my guess is that it will reach the Top Ten, but only very briefly. I don't think 'hate watching' is really a thing, and unless the show turns out to be unexpectedly good, I can't see it sustaining much interest beyond initial curiosity.

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Does anyone know if this series fulfils their contractual obligations - ie was there a number of projects they had to complete ? And if it turns out to be more popular than some of the anticipatory comment might they commission a 2nd series if they can fit it into this 5 year period or would middling viewers not justify the cost.

I would have thought it would have to be massively popular to justify a renewed contract just on that show , given all the other projects apart from the Docuseries have been poorly watched. But might Netflix not renew the contract but pay her on a case by case basis for any further series.

I realise only the Netflix execs would really be able to answer all this but I am curious and ignorant in equal measure as to how these things work.

IcedPurple · 03/03/2025 11:56

BasiliskStare · 03/03/2025 11:49

Does anyone know if this series fulfils their contractual obligations - ie was there a number of projects they had to complete ? And if it turns out to be more popular than some of the anticipatory comment might they commission a 2nd series if they can fit it into this 5 year period or would middling viewers not justify the cost.

I would have thought it would have to be massively popular to justify a renewed contract just on that show , given all the other projects apart from the Docuseries have been poorly watched. But might Netflix not renew the contract but pay her on a case by case basis for any further series.

I realise only the Netflix execs would really be able to answer all this but I am curious and ignorant in equal measure as to how these things work.

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I'm also curious and ignorant about how these things work!

My (uninformed) guess is that if the upcoming series is a ratings success, they might consider renewing it. But that would be quite different from the seemingly more open ended deal that 'Archewell Productions' has had for the past 4 years. I can't imagine it would be hugely lucrative for her either. NF has so much content so they aren't paying major money for each show they stream.