@MissFenellaPrism - Re podcast - I'll try my best to give the gist - but it is from memory - Recollections may vary 😊
Excuse the eexcrable typing / grammar - rattling it out quickly - @MrsLeonFarrell do say if you listen and I've got this wrong.
I hope it's OK to transcribe - I'll delete if not.
They mentioned the recent Instagram post where Meghan said she was so excited about As ever and Love Meghan - RO said he doesn't like this because being excited should come over from your natural actions / voice. So he said - You're so excited - Tell your face , love. He also said Creating joy in every minute - that's too much joy.
Re Netflix - obviously the docuseries - huge ratings but - after that their projects have flopped. He said Netflix are after global ratings and with this sort of contract you do what has made them sign up - then you do what you want to do and if no good you end up doing what you are told.
He said he didn't blame them for taking the $100m deal but if he were NF he wouldn't have offered that.
If this took off and she could be a Martha Stewart there is an absolute fortune to be made.
MH mentioned hate watching - RO aid if she gets 10 series that's not a hate watch - more on that later.
MH - this is just a bit more of that farm to table bullshit - very trad wife.
Apparently $ for $ the Random house / Spare deal was a lot more lucrative than the NF deal
MH thought they had been doing programmes they thought people ought to watch rather than what they want to watch. re WLM she said they can't really do the extended universe thing like the Kardashians because they have cut so many people off.
RO said Goop was the lodestar of celebrity brands and MM wants to be a millennial Martha / Goop.
MH said Goop came across as genuinely reflecting GP's personality but it seems to be trailing a bit. Much talk of IPOs but nothing happened and 3 rounds of layoffs last year.
RO lot of brands / lifestyle things come from the ground up via SM & people find someone they like / identify with and keep with them but not how NF work - their money is front loaded - they can't wait for that. This feels like a social media project. He wondered if when she gets her friends round she may discuss things she says are important to her over dinner - that might be interesting. MH thought she would be too conservative for that. MH thought this was the last throw of the dice for NF
MH - Variety did some polling in 2023 and "hate watch " dramas got really high viewing - often more than things people like . So apparently Emily in Paris is the most hate watched but repeated series . She did say people might secretly love it but don't want to admit it.
RO - surely said people might hate watch the 1st episode but not a whole series. MH - if something is massively publicised and controversial people will want to have an opinion and have a conversation about it , even if that is a negative conversation so not necessarily just one episode.
RO - MM has been accused of copying but he said there are practically no original ideas - it's how you package your unoriginality. & a person cooking and having guests has been done over again - so he didn't much truck to the copying Emma Weymouth - which he has watched and quite likes .
MH thought the copying of the Porreres and the hoo ha with that was bullshit - she thinks a news editor will have got wind and sent someone to find the mayor and make her say something.
There are some amusing bits I've left out but I think that is the gist