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As Ever #3 As If

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PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 23/02/2025 22:38

Another thread to discuss the rebranding of ARO and the merchandising of With Love, Meghan

Part 2: www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5278062-as-ever-2-whatever

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User14March · 25/02/2025 11:46

LivelyMintViper · 25/02/2025 11:34

She wasn't in a position of power . She was also in a group situation where any poor behaviour would be readily observed.

The Royal situation in early days not a similar dynamic (?) yet apparently early trouble.

User14March · 25/02/2025 11:46

*NO early trouble

Serenster · 25/02/2025 11:47

User14March · 25/02/2025 11:30

If true would she really have held down her job on Suits & been liked by most? For years. No abused make-up artists or sound engineers with negative reports, at all…No negative word from anyone met via Trevor or Corey. If really shocking there would be I think, NB: Cilla Black.

There were plenty of stories from people who worked with her, as collected by Tom Bower in Revenge, for example. One at least is publicly verifiable (the director of her Reitman’s commercial who did post on facebook that she was the meanest person he had ever worked with).

How often do you hear verified stories though about people in the entertainment industry? Do you assume that silence means no-one behaves badly?

TwinsTub · 25/02/2025 11:48

LivelyMintViper · 25/02/2025 11:34

She wasn't in a position of power . She was also in a group situation where any poor behaviour would be readily observed.

Agree....this was a huge big break for her, a massive leap from her earlier acting assignments so she was hnaging on tight. Even then she was very far down the pecking order on the cast so her behaviour here was the opposite - to charm and schmooze her more superior colleages. There was a report by the director of the Reitmans commercial (before she me PH) - out of sight of her Suits chums of her appalling behaviour - especially noted in an industry where diva stuff is more tolerated.

I do believe all the separate testimonies from many individuals who experienced, witnessed or reported her appalling treatment of others which are consistent in nature over many years. This is a mini version of Me Too - its about balance of power HW didnt sexually abuse OW - he schmoozed her - whilst abusing others.

User14March · 25/02/2025 11:49

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 25/02/2025 11:45

But it's power isn't it. You can't behave badly if you are not top of the tree.

Arguably if we believe critics she didn’t in early days of Royal life (?) & surely tells, you’d not be able to keep a lid on it for years. Surely she had power too, with Trevor & Corey? Lots.

Words · 25/02/2025 11:51

That first photo is gorgeous. Beautiful hair. Why hide it? Rather think her nose has been reshaped too. Why disguise her ethnicity?

User14March · 25/02/2025 11:51

@TwinsTub I’d forgotten re: commercial but main crime was she borrowed loaned (shoes)? Permanently…

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 25/02/2025 11:53

User14March · 25/02/2025 11:49

Arguably if we believe critics she didn’t in early days of Royal life (?) & surely tells, you’d not be able to keep a lid on it for years. Surely she had power too, with Trevor & Corey? Lots.

Early days? Years? She was part of the RF for such a short time and it was hardly outburst free.

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 25/02/2025 11:54

https://www.gbnews.com/royal/prince-harry-meghan-markle-decision-archie-lilibet

Yeah I know, but it came up on my suggestions

TwinsTub · 25/02/2025 11:55

User14March · 25/02/2025 11:51

@TwinsTub I’d forgotten re: commercial but main crime was she borrowed loaned (shoes)? Permanently…

No idea of the details- but for the director to go to the trouble of posting something publicly on SM (potentially risking backlsh from his client Reitmans) speaks volumes to me.

TwinsTub · 25/02/2025 11:59

User14March · 25/02/2025 11:49

Arguably if we believe critics she didn’t in early days of Royal life (?) & surely tells, you’d not be able to keep a lid on it for years. Surely she had power too, with Trevor & Corey? Lots.

She didnt keep a lid on it. Her behavior was reported numerous times - hounded at least 2 people out of their jobs in under a year. BP conducted an investigation specifically on MM bullying. Her bullying behaviour was covered in The Times and in Valentine Lows book.

Trevor and Corey - were stepping stones for her career so she had to keep them sweet - same as PH. Classic narc abusive and manipulaive behavior of 'kiss up, kick down'

MissRoseDurward · 25/02/2025 12:02

Now we have James Hewitt getting in on it all on UK TV saying Diana would have wanted Harry and William to reconcile.

None of his damn business, is it? All it will achieve is reigniting speculation about Harry's parentage, which still surfaces occasionally here on MN.

Mylovelygreendress · 25/02/2025 12:06

User14March · 25/02/2025 11:49

Arguably if we believe critics she didn’t in early days of Royal life (?) & surely tells, you’d not be able to keep a lid on it for years. Surely she had power too, with Trevor & Corey? Lots.

Well , we have tiara gate and bridesmaid dresses pre wedding . Also they were still in Nott Cottage when William challenged Harry about Meghan’s behaviour and don’t forget Jason’s email a mere 1 year into marriage .
Also , there was the well documented ( and never denied) allegation of Meghan throwing a cup of tea over a member of staff and don’t forget the aide in tears after the Fiji market debacle.

Mylovelygreendress · 25/02/2025 12:08

Pretty sure Trevor and Corey could say a lot but they are just getting on with their lives . I know Trevor has remarried but don’t know about Corey .

Puzzledandpissedoff · 25/02/2025 12:17

Mylovelygreendress · 25/02/2025 12:08

Pretty sure Trevor and Corey could say a lot but they are just getting on with their lives . I know Trevor has remarried but don’t know about Corey .

I've a lot of admiration for the way those two have kept schtum, and am pretty certain Trevor at least will have been offered $$$$ to blab

Such a shame H&M don't do the same ...

MissFenellaPrism · 25/02/2025 12:19

Puzzledandpissedoff · 25/02/2025 12:17

I've a lot of admiration for the way those two have kept schtum, and am pretty certain Trevor at least will have been offered $$$$ to blab

Such a shame H&M don't do the same ...

Quite.
Imagine how they would feel if others treated them in the same way they've treated others!

MissRoseDurward · 25/02/2025 12:30

Trevor and Corey - were stepping stones for her career so she had to keep them sweet

Yes, they seem to fall into the same category as all the family and friends she has used and abandoned on her way up.

I just looked up Cory - I know looks aren't everything, but my goodness, he's not half bad! Harry doesn't begin to compete!

He has a partner and young son, apparently, and seems to be doing very well.

User14March · 25/02/2025 12:31

In the light of the Harvey Weinstein scandal over NDAs isn’t there a danger of a future ‘tell all’ re: Montecito mansion? Also we’d surely expect a revolving door of staff? If they’re as billed.

Also agree silence speaks very well of Trevor & Corey re: dignified silence but surely others around them at time might be so tempted?

BemusedAmerican · 25/02/2025 12:32

Cory Vitiello also wrote a cookbook for dads:

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/authors/2248397/cory-vitiello/

AtIusvue · 25/02/2025 12:40

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-14433401/amp/Meghan-Markle-wme-agency-breaks-silence.html

really good article…covering why there was rumours about WME for a long time

ThePoshUns · 25/02/2025 12:44

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 25/02/2025 11:44

She has naturally curly hair. I actually think it’s gorgeous. I would be interested in finding out how she deals with her hair on a daily basis if she were ever willing to do a beauty blog/brand. That would be interesting.

Her natural hair is so pretty.

FromThePrismOfJammyTodger · 25/02/2025 12:46

MissRoseDurward · 25/02/2025 12:30

Trevor and Corey - were stepping stones for her career so she had to keep them sweet

Yes, they seem to fall into the same category as all the family and friends she has used and abandoned on her way up.

I just looked up Cory - I know looks aren't everything, but my goodness, he's not half bad! Harry doesn't begin to compete!

He has a partner and young son, apparently, and seems to be doing very well.

Trevor is married to an heiress to millions if not billions (her late father founded an investment bank). They have 3 children. The both seem very private. He also seems to do some really good (dare I say it, philanthropic) work partnering with young people who don't have the connections for Hollywood, but who want to break into the industry. Video honouring Trevor and his colleague in this scheme linked below.

Interestingly, Trevor also dated Bethenny Frenkel, who has recently had some non complimentary things to say about Meghan's latest venture.

Lifestooshort71 · 25/02/2025 12:59

MissRoseDurward · 25/02/2025 12:02

Now we have James Hewitt getting in on it all on UK TV saying Diana would have wanted Harry and William to reconcile.

None of his damn business, is it? All it will achieve is reigniting speculation about Harry's parentage, which still surfaces occasionally here on MN.

The pictures of H at Invictus with a grey-green woolly hat pulled on low, show that he gets more and more like Philip as he gets older - no doubts about his heritage.

Zippedydodah · 25/02/2025 13:03

Words · 25/02/2025 11:51

That first photo is gorgeous. Beautiful hair. Why hide it? Rather think her nose has been reshaped too. Why disguise her ethnicity?

I’m at a loss why @Words . It did idly cross my mind that the emulating Diana in clothes, posture etc made me wonder whether, given the option, she would cut her hair into a similar style etc.
i think she was so much more attractive in the earlier days than now.

BunnyLake · 25/02/2025 13:12

Lifestooshort71 · 25/02/2025 12:59

The pictures of H at Invictus with a grey-green woolly hat pulled on low, show that he gets more and more like Philip as he gets older - no doubts about his heritage.

He really looks nothing like James Hewitt facially. Harry’s close set eyes and his nose are pure Phillip/Charles.

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