As Ever #3 As If

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Another thread to discuss the rebranding of ARO and the merchandising of With Love, Meghan

Part 2: www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5278062-as-ever-2-whatever

Personally I blame harry, he's been blathering on about his mother nonstop at any opportunity, he's literally dragging all her skeletons kicking and screaming out of the closet and this is the result , one of his mothers lover apparently thinks it's perfectly acceptable to raise his head above the parapet and make comments!

Most of the younger fans and probably many Americans will have no idea about Diana's numerous affairs with bodyguards, other women's husbands and are going to ask who James hewett is , then they will google !
This old history should have been left to rest in peace.

The pictures of H at Invictus with a grey-green woolly hat pulled on low, show that he gets more and more like Philip as he gets older - no doubts about his heritage.

Oh I agree about the likeness to Philip and Charles, but it doesn't stop people popping up with the old rumours from time to time.

Harry is the image of Prince Phillip. There’s one picture of Prince Phillip in uniform and another one of Harry alongside and they’re like two peas in a pod.

In a reverse of the Nigel/Nigella Lawson situation, Philip was hot, and his lookalike Harry is really not.

I don’t think Harry looks at all like Philip. Philip was incredibly good looking as a young man. Harry is not good looking and never has been.

Well Harry assured friends about Chelsy "it's alright, she's not black or anything", so perhaps she fights shy of triggering his racial prejudice?

I don’t think Harry looks at all like Philip.

He has the same eyes and nose as Philip and Charles. The resemblance has become more apparent as he has got older.

(Prince George I think is starting to look very like William.)

She was throwing her weight around before she was married. Tiaragate - well attested to. And even if you don't believe that she bullied her 3-y-o bridesmaid, her emails to Catherine about the bridesmaids' dresses - as published by Harry - show a woman seriously unconcerned about being a team player.

Blake Lively is a perfect example of this. By all accounts she’s completely awful to work with but stories are only coming out now (or being listened to) following the saga of It Ends With Us.
It seems that Hollywood will turn a blind eye to bad behaviour until the star is no longer bankable and/or involved in some toxicity.

Because Meghan’s ethnicity is not a source of pride to her. It is something she bitterly resented being pointed out by the British press. According to the podcast with Mariah Carey, that was the first time she had been treated as “black”. And interestingly, in that same podcast Mariah talked about growing up “mixed” and that didn’t go down well either.

Hollywood and the BBC have that in common 👎

Phillip, Charles and Harry all have quite close set eyes. In the baby video, Archie has them too.

There's a picture of Phillip with a big bushy naval beard and he and Harry look very similar.

George looks a lot like both William and Diana (The baldness doesn't suddenly stop him looking like his mum no matter what Harry think!). Charlotte looks like the Queen and Sarah Chatto and Louis looks like Grandpa Middleton.

https://www.elle.com/culture/g22072707/prince-harry-prince-philip-look-a-like/

I just looked back at Spare & the email interchange between Kate & M as outlined. Harry things it shows Kate as totally unreasonable, arguably it does the opposite.Even with the stress around her father M comes across as an imperious boss dealing with a recalcitrant subordinate:

Kate to M ‘Charlotte’s dress is too baggy, too big she cried when she tried it on at home’.

M: ‘Right, I told you the tailor has been standing by since 8am. Here. At KP. Can you take Charlotte to have it altered as the other Mums are doing’

Kate thought the dresses probably needed remaking & wedding only a few days away but not impolite.

M ‘I am not sure what else to say, if the dress doesn’t fit then take Charlotte to see Ajay, he’s been waiting all day’.

H - ‘a short time later I arrived to find Meg on the floor sobbing’.

‘Kate hadn’t meant any harm I told her. The next day Kate came by with flowers and a card to say she was sorry’.

I am left wondering how staff fare when M stressed.

@Rhaidimiddim William doesn’t attend H’s night before drinks & H concludes was it ‘beardgate’ or ‘was he feeling guilty about the business between Kate & Meg’. Words rather fail.

I think Archie has Meghan's eyes. Those childhood photos of her posted upthread show close together eyes as well.

I think George looks like George VI in the eyes at least

This is exactly what it is. As I've said on another thread, Hollywood is conservative and therefore will only kick you when you're down, absolutely, definitely down and deemed unlikely ever to get up again.

That Meghan's rep is now taking such an all round kicking (and worse, blatant mockery) is a sure sign that she's done, showbiz-wise.

I'm interested in the WME rumours. Since Page Six has multiple sources, I'd imagine that there's at least the hint of a flame behind all the smoke. I wonder if they've served her notice, or she's served them, and they're now working out their six month notice period (so technically still representing her).

The Billie Eilish PR stunt had a definite whiff of desperate agency throwing all the remaining mud they have at the wall in the hope something sticks. But it didn't go down well, which I'm sure got some hapless junior the hairdryer treatment from Montecito. It's got 'irretrievable breakdown of professional relationship' written all over it.

@jeffgoldblum re blaming Harry. I think Harry has severe psychological problems of long-standing. There's been rumours swirling around for years, some I believe, some I think are exaggerated, some I think are just bollocks. The first two categories paint quite the picture. I found Spare disturbing. Meghan whether deliberately or by accident keeps metaphorically ripping open his Diana-shaped psychological scar and rubbing salt in the wound. They're trauma-bonded and he's constantly being re-traumatised if my theory is correct.

You know, relationships are funny things. Loving someone isn't enough. You can love someone but still come to the conclusion that you're not good for each other. And you have to walk away. I'm sure some people on this thread know what I'm talking about. It's incredibly painful but sometimes necessary.

Some couples love each other and also bring out the best in each other and as such they are fortunate beyond words. Other couples love each other but also, sadly, bring out the worst in each other, and it's a downward spiral. Life isn't all salt & pepper metaphors and romantic PDAs. Real, grown up love is complicated. And not always the best thing for the parties involved.

Yes, I think Meghan, Archie and Lilibet do look like Thomas Markle in the eye and nose detail.
I agree that Harry looks like a less attractive version of Philip and Charles. That's mostly down to his scowl and unpleasant demeanour. He can be quite nice looking when he smiles.

I doubt those flowers were to say sorry but rather to smooth things over. And what on earth did Harry think William had to feel "guilty" about? Nothing to do with him.
Meghan's tone was shocking and not a good way to speak to anyone, let alone someone who's technically one's senior. But even without that, Kate had a newborn to deal with. And the tears were likely more to do with the stress of fact that the dresses weren't right for "this spectacle for the WORLD," than from "Kate making ME cry," as she reported to Oprah.

The Meghan-Kate bridesmaid dress messages were what 2 weeks after Kate gave birth? If anyone had ordered me 2wks pp to drag my reluctant toddler to yet another dress fitting i would not have been happy

And Catherine was very early post partum.

The next day Kate came by with flowers and a card to say she was sorry’.

Kate, who had given birth a week or two previously, and was probably wishing she could just send Charlotte and Granny Carole off to John Lewis and be done with all the drama.

@Treeleaf11 I am horrified by M’s tone, Kate was ‘going high’ & absolutely smoothing things over. William must have been livid by M’s recount on Oprah about Kate ‘owning’ her inexcusably bad behaviour.

This is just one random picture

I was going to say, @Rhaidimiddim - this was all happening around the time of Louis' birth. How insensitive of Meghan.
Charlotte's bridesmaid dress was awful, so badly fitted, and the hem was completely uneven.

@MissFenellaPrism I think Kate was politely pointing out tailoring wouldn’t fix things as advised by her dressmaker & if remaking on cards they needed to get skates on.

Someone who was bothered by a smelly chapel & had great attention to detail might be genuinely concerned & likely Kate trying to be helpful. M seemed unbothered though really maybe as spotlight on her?