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The royal family

As Ever #2 Whatever

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PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 19/02/2025 15:54

I noticed the old thread is almost full so thought we could start a new one to carry on the discussion about the rebrand and merching.

Are you an ‘As Ever’ or ‘Whatever’?

link to the old thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5277002-as-ever

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IcedPurple · 20/02/2025 12:26

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 20/02/2025 11:37

There was also an annoying tendency to translate the figures to GBP at 1:1 with the dollar, so £100m, £20m etc.

Maybe H&M read those reports, rather than their actual income, when they bought their place in Montecito.

I'm also suspicious of such round figures, and don't believe that Harry is 'getting $1 million' from that coaching app he shills for.

Wildflowers99 · 20/02/2025 12:26

Vespanest · 20/02/2025 12:10

I'm not sure Charles even has the cash assets to afford long term support of their needs. The odd million here and there is not going to cut it. Realistically if Harry and Meghan want to continue this lifestyle and that of their children then they need to grow a hefty investment portfolio to produce a lifestyle not reliant on there earning power which could fade if it hasn't already.

Was anyone else a little cringed out by the insta caption about Harry ‘changing people’s lives’?

Vespanest · 20/02/2025 12:30

User14March · 20/02/2025 12:13

@Vespanest how expensive is their lifestyle & do her clothes come for free? The fashion bill must be ££ alone.

Id argue he ideally wants the income of his brother especially if he wants the charity/philanthropy image as donors are not going to subsidise Archewell forever. William has a billion pound investment generating his income and paid security. He is going to need at least a couple of hundred million to generate his cost which are quickly going to increase as his children become independent

MissFenellaPrism · 20/02/2025 12:34

Wildflowers99 · 20/02/2025 12:26

Was anyone else a little cringed out by the insta caption about Harry ‘changing people’s lives’?

It's arrogant beyond belief.

EsmaCannonball · 20/02/2025 12:36

LaMarschallin · 20/02/2025 10:35

"Spoon me, fork me"...?
What the fork?!

Spatula My Baps!

IcedPurple · 20/02/2025 12:37

There's a lot of talk about their 'lifestyle' but to me it doesn't seem that great.

Yes they travel by private jet but that's just a posh way of getting from A to B.They don't seem to go on many luxury holidays or glamorous parties. Her clothes are mostly by mid range designers and are probably given to her for free. Quite a step down from the custom couture she wore as a royal. Yes, they have a big house in an exclusive area but it all seems a bit soulless.

AtIusvue · 20/02/2025 12:44

https://nypost.com/2025/02/19/opinion/meghan-markles-latest-maneuver-is-an-insult-to-martha-stewart/

The NYpost has given a great idea for a business name ….see if you can spot it 😂

‘Meanwhile, Markle the narcissist keeps insisting she’s gonna be the next big thing.Not showing us. She thinks she’s so interesting, we’ll all be lining up to buy what she’s selling.
If she ever gets around to having anything to sell (beyond royal family secrets, of course — she and her husband are very good at that!)

Before the duchess nabbed that royal title — the one she made sure to hang on to even though she ditched the family that came with it — Markle was a TV actress with a blog on which she raved about basic-bitch staples and nominated Serena Williams for the ice-bucket challenge.

That makes her an expert on what, exactly?
But Markle isn’t just in need of rebrand for her jam and dog biscuits.
She needs a personal one, too.’

AtIusvue · 20/02/2025 12:54

Also, in the comments section of that NYPost piece

Someone purporting to be an IP lawyer (who knows) says that As ever clothing can easily apply for a TM by demonstrating that they have been trading under that name, eg: a receipt of something sold. I’m not sure if that would only apply to the NY state or all the US though.

BasiliskStare · 20/02/2025 12:57

Thedom · 20/02/2025 10:07

This rebrand is being destroyed online, saw someone joking that Flamingo Estate, Harry and David, As Ever, As Ever photography, Spanish village, Emmas Kitchen, RF (Lilibet), should get together and start a class action against her for stealing names and business ideas.

Perhaps this company should join in https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/14383520. And this https://lilibetclothing.com 😂

LunaNorth · 20/02/2025 13:00

EsmaCannonball · 20/02/2025 12:36

Spatula My Baps!

Hide Your Sausage!

AtIusvue · 20/02/2025 13:01

This was the comment from the NYpost about the TM

‘The NY company can still file for the trademark. All they need to do is figure out one early date (any date before today, actually) where a single person from our of state (NJ?) bought one of their products. That gives them the "use in commerce" basis for the trademark. P.S. I'm an IP attorney. This is basic stuff."

So all the clothing company need to do, is apply for the TM and show the date of commerce as the date that something was first sold (which was years ago) Meghan hasn’t sold anything yet.

I think Meghan is in deep deep trouble here

Mylovelygreendress · 20/02/2025 13:14

User14March · 20/02/2025 12:15

@RecoIIectionsMayVary I thought Harry was committed to a multi book deal re: Spare with jaw dropping revelations to come?

I think it was a 4 book deal so we have had Spare and The Bench ( remember that??). It was rumoured that Meghan was writing a memoir but who knows .

Mylovelygreendress · 20/02/2025 13:15

Vespanest · 20/02/2025 12:30

Id argue he ideally wants the income of his brother especially if he wants the charity/philanthropy image as donors are not going to subsidise Archewell forever. William has a billion pound investment generating his income and paid security. He is going to need at least a couple of hundred million to generate his cost which are quickly going to increase as his children become independent

I read that ( pre Megxit) Harry had suggested to William that they run the Duchy together and split the income .
William said no.

JSMill · 20/02/2025 13:15

I really hope the original As Ever company take that legal advice because they every right to that name.

AtIusvue · 20/02/2025 13:19

They did say they were getting legal advice and seemingly it’s not particularly complicated, they just need to apply for the TM in ‘use of commerce’. Meghan applied for a TM ‘to use’

BasiliskStare · 20/02/2025 13:24

@AtIusvue "basic-bitch staples" 😂

domain name Markle-em-up-Sell-em-on.com

jeffgoldblum · 20/02/2025 13:29

AtIusvue · 20/02/2025 12:44

https://nypost.com/2025/02/19/opinion/meghan-markles-latest-maneuver-is-an-insult-to-martha-stewart/

The NYpost has given a great idea for a business name ….see if you can spot it 😂

‘Meanwhile, Markle the narcissist keeps insisting she’s gonna be the next big thing.Not showing us. She thinks she’s so interesting, we’ll all be lining up to buy what she’s selling.
If she ever gets around to having anything to sell (beyond royal family secrets, of course — she and her husband are very good at that!)

Before the duchess nabbed that royal title — the one she made sure to hang on to even though she ditched the family that came with it — Markle was a TV actress with a blog on which she raved about basic-bitch staples and nominated Serena Williams for the ice-bucket challenge.

That makes her an expert on what, exactly?
But Markle isn’t just in need of rebrand for her jam and dog biscuits.
She needs a personal one, too.’

Oh my! , I've just read that and I'm speechless!
Why is no one commenting on the elephant in the room?
For the past 5 ish years we've been told , that only the nasty U.K. press and people say nasty things about Meghan !
That is the worst comment about Meghan I have ever read! , she even calls her a narcissist! In print no less!!!
No U.K. paper would ever print that ( well they might now?! )

jeffgoldblum · 20/02/2025 13:30

I thought it was "markle manoeuvres " 🤣🤣
@BasiliskStare

friendlycat · 20/02/2025 13:31

jeffgoldblum · 20/02/2025 13:29

Oh my! , I've just read that and I'm speechless!
Why is no one commenting on the elephant in the room?
For the past 5 ish years we've been told , that only the nasty U.K. press and people say nasty things about Meghan !
That is the worst comment about Meghan I have ever read! , she even calls her a narcissist! In print no less!!!
No U.K. paper would ever print that ( well they might now?! )

It’s a brutal piece that’s for sure.

But sadly all true.

jeffgoldblum · 20/02/2025 13:37

Yes true @friendlycat but still wow! 😮

Onlyonekenobe · 20/02/2025 13:40

I think that Meghan is in a worse position now than she was before she launched ("launched") ARO, her Meghan instagram account, As Ever. She's turning out to be like Harry, in that the less he did and the less we knew about him, the better we thought of him. Harry I think would be happy to never to say anything publicly again. Sadly, Meghan is has trained herself to grab the mic and word salad her way into any opening...

I hadn't quite reached the point Emma Brockes has reached, identifying and labeling the pathos of Meghan's reality versus the reality. I still thought that she had a chance, or maybe that other people credit her with wanting world domination but that perhaps she just wants the quiet life of any rich housewife in her new circle, instagramming and designer-clothing and wafting around her circle in breathless tones, doing "good works" and clanging her gold jewelry and diamonds at every opportunity. But if The Guardian has labelled her as pitiful, it's game over really. Even the Montecito circle will shun her.

A woman who would do better if she said nothing but who can't stop herself from talking. It's like watching someone fall into a deep hole in slow motion. Very sad.

AtIusvue · 20/02/2025 13:41

BasiliskStare · 20/02/2025 13:24

@AtIusvue "basic-bitch staples" 😂

domain name Markle-em-up-Sell-em-on.com

😂

I know! BBS would be a great name for her lifestyle business. Does exactly what it says on the tin! Plus….As ever clearly isn’t going to work out

Onlyonekenobe · 20/02/2025 13:42

I've also just seen that Gwyneth has followed the As Ever NYC clothing store on Instagram. That's a real burn. The Montecito set has spoken.

AtIusvue · 20/02/2025 13:43

@jeffgoldblum

Thats what I thought. The tone of it is so biting. This isn’t the toxic British press- this is Americans getting fed up with them and they aren’t holding back!

jeffgoldblum · 20/02/2025 13:47

I know @AtIusvue ! It was so blunt!
Where as the U.K. media tend to go down the ushal sarky tongue in cheek criticism!

Don't forget piers Morgan lost his job for much less!

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