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Where's Doria?

358 replies

Testiclz · 18/02/2025 11:04

She used to attended public social events with H&M - cant remember the last one? She always comes across as classy and calm - I wonder how she deals with it all? Think she had a tough enoughh time in her early marriage to an older man with difficult teenage step children. Do we know if she remarried or had a partner after Thomas?

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Seagullsandsausagerolls · 21/02/2025 05:50

MumBikini · 21/02/2025 05:36

You were in the girls brigade and the boys brigade? Very 2025

Not quite.. More 00s as a specially trained Specialist Access Leader but whatever.

CoffeeCantata · 21/02/2025 08:39

Ohpleeeease · 20/02/2025 13:06

I don’t understand the Doria worship. No-one knows the first thing about her. She is a supportive mother now, good for her. From what we know of MM’s childhood - in the public domain because she put it there - family life was complicated in the past. We all make mistakes and she’s as entitled to make them as anyone and not be publicly criticised for them, but she isn’t a saint, she’s just a person who has the sense to keep herself to herself.

Edited to add that I don’t care or need to know where Doria is!

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I agree. I have no beef with Doria. How could I have - she is a private person - and therefore hasn't asked to be in the public eye?

But I don't have a madly positive view of her either.

I can't shake the view that somewhere along the line either (or both) she and Thomas must have messed up as parents!

Testiclz · 21/02/2025 09:19

CoffeeCantata · 21/02/2025 08:39

I agree. I have no beef with Doria. How could I have - she is a private person - and therefore hasn't asked to be in the public eye?

But I don't have a madly positive view of her either.

I can't shake the view that somewhere along the line either (or both) she and Thomas must have messed up as parents!

I can't shake the view that somewhere along the line either (or both) she and Thomas must have messed up as parents!

She was very young (22/23?) when she met and married Thomas who she met at work. He was 12 years older than her, much more senior. He had sole care of his nasty and difficult teens who called her 'The Maid' which is racist and derogatory whilst he was working 70 hours a week - so she could well have been exploited in a relationship with a clear power imbalance.

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Seagullsandsausagerolls · 21/02/2025 09:26

No one is saying she's a perfect parent no one is. I vowed to never make the same mistakes mine did. I didn't make those mistakes I found fresh ways to mess up.

I just can't imagine having my ripped jeans, tattoos etc making a DM headline because of who my daughter married. Nor made up lies about me being bandied about like truths I would feel that they were trying to hurt my daughter through me.

BustingBaoBun · 21/02/2025 09:36

Yes, I would find it very hurtful Seagulls

Samcro · 21/02/2025 09:44

I can't shake the view that somewhere along the line either (or both) she and Thomas must have messed up as parents!

lovely. its known that Thomas isn't good as he tried to publicly black mail his daughter.

but Doria as far as im aware has done nothing wrong.

Ohpleeeease · 21/02/2025 09:46

Seagullsandsausagerolls · 21/02/2025 09:26

No one is saying she's a perfect parent no one is. I vowed to never make the same mistakes mine did. I didn't make those mistakes I found fresh ways to mess up.

I just can't imagine having my ripped jeans, tattoos etc making a DM headline because of who my daughter married. Nor made up lies about me being bandied about like truths I would feel that they were trying to hurt my daughter through me.

Yes, it was horrible when Carole Middleton had to endure it and she didn’t deserve it any more than Doria Ragland. She has behaved with grace and class, she hasn’t taken part in any documentaries, for example.

JandamiHash · 21/02/2025 09:52

Ohpleeeease · 21/02/2025 09:46

Yes, it was horrible when Carole Middleton had to endure it and she didn’t deserve it any more than Doria Ragland. She has behaved with grace and class, she hasn’t taken part in any documentaries, for example.

The way Carole was portrayed on the last series of The Crown was shocking. It must be taking all her might not to sue!

Ohpleeeease · 21/02/2025 09:57

I haven’t seen The Crown but I understand the portrayal of her was very unkind. I don’t seek to denigrate either of them, I only bring up CM because of the ridiculous comments I read about DR, as though her behaviour has been in some way exemplary.

Seagullsandsausagerolls · 21/02/2025 10:06

Of course CM didn't deserve it either 🤔 none of the married in families do. You can't choose your child's partner.

At the wedding, yes, I do believe Doria behaved with class and dignity. A different country, culture and surrounded by aristocracy not your normal wedding. As a lone parent albeit widow my mum found my wedding very difficult to navigate alone without the backup of a partner and that was a regular day not televised to the world.

Testiclz · 21/02/2025 10:22

Ohpleeeease · 21/02/2025 09:57

I haven’t seen The Crown but I understand the portrayal of her was very unkind. I don’t seek to denigrate either of them, I only bring up CM because of the ridiculous comments I read about DR, as though her behaviour has been in some way exemplary.

What ridiculous comments? Where has DR not been exemplary?

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Ohpleeeease · 21/02/2025 10:45

I keep seeing the word “class” used in relation to DR. What is meant by that?

I’m not getting into why her behaviour hasn’t been exemplary for all the reasons given above, she’s a private individual who has (mostly) stayed out of the public eye. My criticisms - which I’m not going to air here - relate to the mostly.

Jacquettes · 21/02/2025 10:53

Ohpleeeease · 21/02/2025 10:45

I keep seeing the word “class” used in relation to DR. What is meant by that?

I’m not getting into why her behaviour hasn’t been exemplary for all the reasons given above, she’s a private individual who has (mostly) stayed out of the public eye. My criticisms - which I’m not going to air here - relate to the mostly.

What do you mean by your use of ‘class’ in regard to Carole Middleton? Probably for the same reasons people use it to describe Doria.

Samcro · 21/02/2025 10:59

i have never watched the crown. was it that bad?

BustingBaoBun · 21/02/2025 11:04

I've never watched the Crown either, not even one minute of it. @Samcro . As I lived through what I think it was portraying I really couldn't see the point...

Testiclz · 21/02/2025 12:04

Ohpleeeease · 21/02/2025 10:45

I keep seeing the word “class” used in relation to DR. What is meant by that?

I’m not getting into why her behaviour hasn’t been exemplary for all the reasons given above, she’s a private individual who has (mostly) stayed out of the public eye. My criticisms - which I’m not going to air here - relate to the mostly.

I used the descriptor 'classy' - not class - which is defined as "...being a classy lady doesn't mean that you should be snobby or stuck up, but that you should have dignity, consideration, and moderation in your daily actions." - and that is what I have witnessed directly from the limited times she has been in the media - at the wedding, in the H&M Netflix documentary one the occassions she has accompnid H&M to royal engagements / social events.

I am also impressed that she retrained and studied for a Masters in Social Work later in life - for the effort involved and the choice of vocation indicates to me that she is a compassionate person with strong social values.

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Ohpleeeease · 21/02/2025 12:56

Jacquettes · 21/02/2025 10:53

What do you mean by your use of ‘class’ in regard to Carole Middleton? Probably for the same reasons people use it to describe Doria.

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Well possibly not as I think it applies to CM because she rose above a barrage of criticism whereas DM didn’t need to because she’s been left well alone. Which, I repeat, is a GOOD THING.

Jamismyjammytodger · 21/02/2025 14:09

According to Doria's wikipedia page, in 2020 she became CEO, CFO and secretary of a care home firm in Beverly Hills, called Loving Kindness Senior Care Management.

So I imagine, @Testiclz , Doria is probably busy with this job, as well as her duties as the only grandparent with a hands on relationship with the Sussex children.

https://www.bustle.com/entertainment/meghan-markles-mum-doria-ragland-ceo-care-home

Testiclz · 21/02/2025 14:17

Thanks for that article @Jamismyjammytodger - nice to see the quote from 2017 from MM:

"My mom's a yoga instructor, but she does social work, as well, and she works specifically with the geriatric community," she said. "For me to watch this level of life-long sensitivity to nurturing and caregiving, but at the same time my mom has always been a free spirit. She's got dreadlocks and a nose ring. She just ran the LA Marathon. We can just have so much fun together, and yet, I'll still find so much solace in her support."

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Spectre8 · 21/02/2025 17:28

CoffeeCantata · 21/02/2025 08:39

I agree. I have no beef with Doria. How could I have - she is a private person - and therefore hasn't asked to be in the public eye?

But I don't have a madly positive view of her either.

I can't shake the view that somewhere along the line either (or both) she and Thomas must have messed up as parents!

Oh because you're a perfect parent yourself right . God how awful are you to make such comments and on a parenting site no less. No parent is perfect people do the best they can in their circumstances.

MaturingCheeseball · 23/02/2025 09:03

Doria has every right to be private. But… Meghan has wheeled her out for various occasions but lately not. So, knowing Meghan’s history with friends and family, and if past performance is an indicator of that of the future… it seems reasonable to wonder whether Doria has been dumped.

itsjustthewayitwas · 23/02/2025 09:06

It’s quite a hard thing to evade paps in her position. It’s truly remarkable that she’s managed to keep her private life private. I do wonder why Meghan seems to have absolutely nothing to do with that side of the family.

BustingBaoBun · 23/02/2025 10:14

MaturingCheeseball · 23/02/2025 09:03

Doria has every right to be private. But… Meghan has wheeled her out for various occasions but lately not. So, knowing Meghan’s history with friends and family, and if past performance is an indicator of that of the future… it seems reasonable to wonder whether Doria has been dumped.

So you are saying that as far as you're concerned Meghan has dumped her mother and is having nothing to do with her, is that what you think?

Hardly reasonable at all and you under estimate the bond between a mother and a daughter.

MaturingCheeseball · 23/02/2025 10:57

Hmmmm, I suggest you watch Mildred Pierce…

itsjustthewayitwas · 23/02/2025 10:59

BustingBaoBun · 23/02/2025 10:14

So you are saying that as far as you're concerned Meghan has dumped her mother and is having nothing to do with her, is that what you think?

Hardly reasonable at all and you under estimate the bond between a mother and a daughter.

Maybe Doria has had enough of the circus.

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