As Ever

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Meghan has renamed her luxury lifestyle brand 'As Ever'.

'As Ever essentially means as it's always been, and if you've followed me since 2014 with The Tig, you know I've always loved cooking and crafting and gardening — this is what I do,' she said. '

They are not liked.

Shit, really? 😆😆😆

The royal family probably don't want to lower themselves to their level, nothing more undignified than a public slanging match

Charles and Diana anyone?

I would assume they have moved on. You know, closed the chapter!!!

Andrew, Lord Mountbatten anyone?

The RF don’t do that. There is no way they would have a public tit for tat. That is common knowledge. The recollections may vary comment was the beginning and end of it and it has served them well. You can’t play tennis if the ball isn’t returning to you.

How dare you, she is very accomplished at making grand announcements about plans that never come to fruition lol. I dont get why she can't just wait until there is actually something to show for it. Did another royal family member do something that she felt the need to upstage again so she rushed this out?

@Pianoaholic Yes, I am interested what makes people criticise her so much because I don't understand. I thought I made that very clear posts ago! I appreciate that one poster @Onlyonekenobe actually gave me some insight as opposed to labelling my posts tedious or derailing.

Deleted. I got wrong end of stick and thought you were serious 😁

forelock tugging

It's interesting to me how this phrase gets used repeatedly by supporters of the Sussexes, many of whom, I suspect, don't even know what it means.

I don't recall Andrew or Mountbatten n a public slanging match

Charles and Diana anyone?

Imagine talking about your marriage problems on TV! 😆

That's the point. Those war of the Wales years were awful - both sides came out of it badly and I'm sure William remembers how that felt for him. So they've gone with the old MN favourite of grey rocking and to be fair, it's worked out pretty well in terms of reputation and public opinion.

Yes and that turned out so well. Perhaps they've learnt their lesson?

@Firealarm1414 I do apologise, you are absolutely right

Where have you got the idea I’m talking about family dynamics? I’m concerned with lies and accusations made, for instance about the conferring of titles and removal of security, which have been proved to be false.

Errr what has she accomplished?

She married a prince 🤷‍♀️

This is THE most depressing thing ever. For marriage, even/especially (I couldn't think of much worse than losing my autonomy in this way) to a prince, to be an accomplishment. And it perfectly encapsulates the MM obsession: listen to her speak and she didn't know who he was, didn't google him, was only interested in whether he was kind, knew nothing about the RF, linked and not ranked etc. MM herself would be the FIRST "feminist" to say that marriage, even to a prince, isn't an accomplishment. You just have to be your authentic self, compassion and love and changing the world and philanthropy and blah blah blah.

AND YET, here we are. A 'fan' saying that her marriage to Harry is an accomplishment, and Meghan Markle herself holding on for dear life to her title and her children's title and her coat of arms and being called Ma'am and having a security cordon around her when she's out in public and and and... Then she has the gall, the sheer front, to lecture young girls about feminism and being enough just as they are and using their voices and whatnot.

It's the hypocrisy. Brazen, bare-faced hypocrisy backed up (when challenged) by lies. How can anyone NOT call that out?

@PigglyWigglyOhYeah How would you neatly sum up the below?

"Ever since I was a little child (pre-internet!!) I've been baffled by the dye-in-the-wool royalists. The ones who turn up at wedding decked out in Union Jack suits, the ones who have all the memorabilia in their homes, the ones who queue up in the cold and rain to see them pass in a car etc. I understand the historians, but not the fandom. It's different from pop stars or movie stars in that at least they have some creative output to latch onto, something that might resonate. I can only think that something resonates with these fans, enough to push them into sycophancy."

I do agree there's something in the public that likes to see people get their comeuppance in the same way underdogs are championed. And I think many hate hypocrisy more than something illegal & maybe that's the bit I am missing.

Minor derail, but Richard Osman has said that he thinks the public’s general love of people reaping what they sow in real time is behind the huge popularity of Traitors. Because one of the USPs of the game is the fact that people advocate and vote for banishment and then immediately discover whether the person they have banished is a Faithful or a Traitor. The audience loves it both when they discover they are right, but also when (as is usually the case) they discover they got it all wrong.

Well, they seemed to stop short of trashing anyone else, including spicing up the eg Morton book with anecdotes about disabled matrons and hapless stable girls.

Well I don't know about you, but I certainly can't perform a striptease whilst cooking a burger on a BBQ. I'd end up in A&E with second degree burns all over my chest.

Eh?

@Onlyonekenobe I think @BunnyLake was being sarcastic.

@FromThePrismOfJammyTodger I manage quite well as long as I tuck my boobs Into my knickers

How are we supposed to know what is truth and what is horseshit from Prince Harry and from Meghan that has come via Harry. Even Harry hasn't got a clue. His relationship with facts “Whatever the cause, my memory is my memory, it does what it does, gathers and curates as it sees fit, and there's just as much truth in what I remember and how I remember it as there is in so-called objective facts,” if the author has no clue on reality then anyone who reads the book (or other media) as anything other than fiction is a bit deluded. "Whatever the cause" yeah that would be the drugs Harry . At least the crown hires fact checkers and acknowledges the embellishments.