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The royal family

Let us all discuss the news and great doings issuing from Montecito

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Uricon2 · 15/02/2025 22:27

WTF Ghana? Just why?

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IdaGlossop · 20/02/2025 18:14

Meghan's dilemma (or one of them) is that she wants to market her wares using her personal brand, but her personal brand is very tarnished. Would a marketing and branding consultant dare to suggest a rethink? Going back on social media is not working well for her. Predictably, every post is ripped to shreds. She could probably resolve it with publishing a go-live date for her online store, a teaser campaign for a couple of weeks created around products (I'm sure there are none), and 'cancelling' her image and her voice. Richard Branson can front campaigns because his businesses are mostly successful and that's what people mostly associate him with. Meghan's position couldn't be more different. Personally, I'm not sure that even if she did things properly she would be successful because her reputation and image are so damaged. Even the basics are not in place eg no welcome email when subscribing for updates, due diligence on brand name and logo. That will surely make people nervous about purchasing - are the goods actually in stock, is there a returns policy?

jeffgoldblum · 20/02/2025 18:15

AtIusvue · 20/02/2025 18:13

Meh, I think….at times….. Harry has a modicum of self awareness. At all times, Meghan doesn’t.

Plus we haven’t heard repeated bullying stories about Harry, just that he’s a a bit of a wet lettuce and enablers her.

So he gets off with the worst of it.

True but we do know that Harry does bully people, maybe not on the same level as Meghan .

And we know Harry hits people who can't hit him back!

How do we know? Because the idiot told us himself in his little memoir!

Stickystickysticky · 20/02/2025 18:24

I think that Harry is too far removed from normal life to be capable of seeing what a mess this all is. I reckon he just listens to Meghan and goes along with it all .

We need to show the world that we're not divorcing Harry so we need to be kissing in public. I'm making a video to introduce As Ever so play along won't you.

I doubt very much he has a clue about the corporate world or finances or marketing. BUT he must read the press and whether he understands the ins and outs of it all, he should be having a word and telling her to stop. He must now realise how much the men in grey suits did.

MissFenellaPrism · 20/02/2025 18:27

Stickystickysticky · 20/02/2025 18:24

I think that Harry is too far removed from normal life to be capable of seeing what a mess this all is. I reckon he just listens to Meghan and goes along with it all .

We need to show the world that we're not divorcing Harry so we need to be kissing in public. I'm making a video to introduce As Ever so play along won't you.

I doubt very much he has a clue about the corporate world or finances or marketing. BUT he must read the press and whether he understands the ins and outs of it all, he should be having a word and telling her to stop. He must now realise how much the men in grey suits did.

He's just completely blind to it, though. It's always someone else's fault and he's a perpetual victim. He's also delusional - wanting to interview Putin?

IdaGlossop · 20/02/2025 18:36

MissFenellaPrism · 20/02/2025 18:27

He's just completely blind to it, though. It's always someone else's fault and he's a perpetual victim. He's also delusional - wanting to interview Putin?

H could make whole podcast series - Harry's Heroes. Guests would be Trump, Orbàn, Putin, Tommy Robinson, Andrew Tate, Vance, Yiping. So much intergenerational trauma. Meghan would be thrilled.

JSMill · 20/02/2025 18:54

I saw a woman talk about M and her lifestyle brand on Tiktok. She was saying it's just not the vibe of 2025. The CoL crisis and rise of normal people being influencers and sell things on platforms like Instagram means people just aren't into the celebrity lifestyle thing these days. I find I have changed my shopping habits. I want things in my house that are individual or special. I have been shopping from Etsy and Vinted. I know a lot of people doing the same thing.

Mylovelygreendress · 20/02/2025 18:57

jeffgoldblum · 20/02/2025 18:04

Yes @MissFenellaPrism , don't get me wrong she deserves this criticism!
But Harry hasn't even been held to account for African parks!
And yes we all know men get away with more stuff than women but it feels Harry is still being protected!

What about Andrew ??
( sorry )

jeffgoldblum · 20/02/2025 18:59

🤣🤣 @Mylovelygreendress

Stickystickysticky · 20/02/2025 19:03

I almost feel sorry for them, as a human being, it must be awful to have everything you do slated so much. I think most sensible people in this situation would stop and have a look in the mirror but they haven't and until they do things will never improve.

Meghan should give up all the instagram stuff, give up making programs, they should stop doing 'tours' , keep a low profile and concentrate on maybe helping veterans, no publicity, no fanfare.

BasiliskStare · 20/02/2025 19:06

@Mylovelygreendress Ms MyLovely . Very Norty. Go and stand in the corner and come back when you can behave nicely . 🎓

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 20/02/2025 19:08

Although it has been very quiet in here today. One might think that they are needed elsewhere, and that actually this whole site is pretty tame.

Mylovelygreendress · 20/02/2025 19:08

jeffgoldblum · 20/02/2025 17:44

Well I find myself taking an unusual position here!!
I must stand up for Meghan now , this is all deserved criticism but it does rather feel now with this third ? Article that Meghan is being hung out to dry all on her own !

Where's the criticism of Harry? , equally deserved, if not more so in my opinion!

Why is he not getting articles daily and snarky comments in the media?

As a husband and wife who move together like " salt and pepper " surely he should be part of this too!

Food for thought .
Harry is an absolute idiot and his “ revelations “ in Spare and in interviews were - rightly- criticised as was the timing of it when his very elderly grandparents were nearing the end of their lives.
They were both roundly criticised for their reality show .
However recently it has been widely stated that they are separating their brands so Love Meghan and As Ever ( is that still the name?) are very much Meghan’s projects hence the criticism.
I didn’t think Harry looked comfortable touring the fire areas .and it was Meghan who organised a photo line up ( her in the centre) and was snapped clearly looking for a camera .

I do think they are a ridiculous couple and maybe we should be more sympathetic but, honestly , after the lies , disrespect and attention seeking I have very little sympathy.

Mylovelygreendress · 20/02/2025 19:09

BasiliskStare · 20/02/2025 19:06

@Mylovelygreendress Ms MyLovely . Very Norty. Go and stand in the corner and come back when you can behave nicely . 🎓

May I pour a glass of wine first ?

Serenster · 20/02/2025 19:11

Harry faced an awful lot of opprobrium for Spare, which he also faced alone as he promoted it alone.

I do feel for them, they are in a downward spiral where the negative response to them has become the story itself. You see that more normally in politics, but not normally for such a prolonged period, as politicians will eventually leave office. So it’s tough to know what would serve them best at this age. I am no expert, but two options seem ostensibly sensible - firstly to withdraw entirely and wait for the strength of feeling to die down, or secondly to push on if they are confident that As Ever and With Love, Meghan will be big hits.

Uricon2 · 20/02/2025 19:26

Honestly, when I started this thread a few short days ago I thought, well, Invictus is over, week or two until the Netflix show launches, it'll probably be quite quiet for a bit in terms of any activity from H&M.

How wrong is it possible to be?😂Jam entrepeneur levels of wrong.

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MissRoseDurward · 20/02/2025 19:28

Harry faced an awful lot of opprobrium for Spare, which he also faced alone as he promoted it alone.

As I recall, M was keeping a very low profile while all the fallout from Spare was going on. She wasn't seen for some time.

Zippedydodah · 20/02/2025 19:30

Stickystickysticky · 20/02/2025 19:03

I almost feel sorry for them, as a human being, it must be awful to have everything you do slated so much. I think most sensible people in this situation would stop and have a look in the mirror but they haven't and until they do things will never improve.

Meghan should give up all the instagram stuff, give up making programs, they should stop doing 'tours' , keep a low profile and concentrate on maybe helping veterans, no publicity, no fanfare.

I think it’s the arrogance that accompanies everything she does, the ‘look at me’ regardless of the inappropriateness of it and the shoving herself into the limelight at every possible opportunity.
Her complete lack of insight into how this comes across is ridiculous , it has to be deliberate or surely by now she would have realised how appalling her behaviour is at times most of the time?
I suspect Harry goes along with it because he has little choice, he must realise how she presents?

IdaGlossop · 20/02/2025 19:33

Zippedydodah · 20/02/2025 19:30

I think it’s the arrogance that accompanies everything she does, the ‘look at me’ regardless of the inappropriateness of it and the shoving herself into the limelight at every possible opportunity.
Her complete lack of insight into how this comes across is ridiculous , it has to be deliberate or surely by now she would have realised how appalling her behaviour is at times most of the time?
I suspect Harry goes along with it because he has little choice, he must realise how she presents?

He doesn't realise. He's blinded by love.

Stickystickysticky · 20/02/2025 19:35

IdaGlossop · 20/02/2025 19:33

He doesn't realise. He's blinded by love.

He also doesn't seem to have many other people in his life to turn to so he's somewhat stuck with her.

Zippedydodah · 20/02/2025 19:37

Stickystickysticky · 20/02/2025 19:35

He also doesn't seem to have many other people in his life to turn to so he's somewhat stuck with her.

Exactly. Hence him seemingly unable to do anything to ameliorate her behaviour.

MrsLeonFarrell · 20/02/2025 19:37

MissRoseDurward · 20/02/2025 19:28

Harry faced an awful lot of opprobrium for Spare, which he also faced alone as he promoted it alone.

As I recall, M was keeping a very low profile while all the fallout from Spare was going on. She wasn't seen for some time.

A "source" was quoted as saying she didn't agree with some of the details he included in the book. She didn't just leave him alone to promote the book, when it was criticised she tried to protect herself from the backlash.

AtIusvue · 20/02/2025 19:38

The Telegraph. Brilliantly funny.

https://archive.ph/LHgmb

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/20/meghan-harry-no-original-ideas/

IcedPurple · 20/02/2025 19:47

Let's face it, the whole influencer thing is a major come down for Meghan.

Even if the brand launch went smoothly, the show is a success, and the brand brings in lots of money, all of which I doubt, this is not what she had planned 5 years ago. Remember that grandiose 'manifesto' about 'collaborating with the Queen'? The statement that their NF deal would be all about "creating content that informs but also gives hope"? Yet now she's right back where she was a decade ago, only without a decent brand name.

Are we supposed to forget the whole narrative about how she was just too much of a woman of substance to be constrained by fusty royal protocol, and pretend that flogging jam in provincial shopping malls was the aim all along?

MissFenellaPrism · 20/02/2025 19:49

"collaborating with the Queen' 😂 😂
Talk about grandiose!

KatherineParr · 20/02/2025 19:50

I just don't understand - what is the point of Harry and Meghan fans posting negative comments on the photography/clothing pages? They've not said anything bad about Meghan.

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