Is there another couple in the world like The Sussexes?

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I was musing last night about this aspect - they had the world at their feet. Despite what Sussex Supporters like to suggest most people in the UK nodded their heads " yes it was lovely Harry was getting married finally" . I had never heard of the bride myself as I don't watch American tv shows of that ilk. She was black or biracial? It didn't even enter my head what colour she was initially and then as coverage started it didn't make one iota of difference one way or the other. I recall the day of the wedding - it was sunny and the pubs were full of royal cheer broadcasting the wedding.

And then it all started to where we are today.

Are there any other couples in the world who have gone through such a downfall? Is this a feature of the social media arena today?
We see P Diddy and Blake Lively and others exposed now through SM.
You can't count the Duke and Duchess of Windsor in this category as they were always unpopular.

Can you think of any examples of people who have fallen so spectacularly?

I know people say " they live in California, they have money blah blah" but their reputation is one that most people would not want.

Is it purely because of their seeming complaining and sense of entitlement ? I mean you don't see the real philanthropists in this way - in fact you rarely hear about them and what they do.

There are loads of YouTube channels dedicated to Harry and Meghan. Some of them are insightful, perceptive and informative, others less so. All of them beyond litigation it seems. This is a fight Harry can never win, he could literally spend the rest of his life and all of his millions taking them down one at a time and another would pop up.

They started this, and now it’s out of control.

This isn't true at all. You have to come back on every single adverse thing someone says on here about the Sussexes. At least be honest ! You know you do . Ps it's " should have" not " should of" 😬

Well I am being honest when I say I'm not a fan of the sussexs or a supporter. You obviously don't want to believe me, well that's your choice.

And what I said is true I really don't care if a woman wearing linen has creases in her clothes cos that is going to happen due to the fabric. Therefore I am not going to be joining in going omg why can't she iron her clothes or look how creased her clothes are as was said by others. Nor am I going to be joining in criticising someone for spending time doing voluntary or charitable work. I dont care who it is, how long they spent doing it. They went to help and that is good enough for me because alot of people don't give up their time or money to help out.

I just have different views on some things.

There is an amputee charity on X giving a good insight into Invictus Games participation. I checked the charity webpage and it seems to be a valid charity, so it doesn't appear to be a made up

Although she refers to her charity in her posts, her twatter account where she makes these observations is not in her charity’s name. That’s a good thing I think, after reading quite a few of her posts.

I saw that post approximately a day ago and thought that person could have a point, and then I scrolled back through other posts belonging to her. She’s disparaged Harry and Meghan more than once, has referred to Meghan as ‘Megsy’ and retweets posts that have called Meghan names such as “Duchess of Doom.” She just posted a tweet about Meghan in which she says, “I pray she gets more humiliation. She doesn’t honour the veterans.” Imagine praying for another woman’s humiliation. That is obsessive and mad in my opinion.

So hardly unbiased. And she doesn’t strike me as being professional either.

Allegedly Harry is considering taking VF to court!

Having been cruelly denied the NGN dramatics, I can only hope this is true 🙏

It was an interesting piece of information about Invictus and the process for disabled participants who would like to compete in Invictus Games.

I don't know what she thinks of Meghan, I only saw that one tweet about the Invictus Games and found it interesting. However if what you mention is the case, she is not alone in her views, plenty of people are disgusted with how Meghan has steamrolled her way into turning the Invictus Games into the Meghan roadshow at the expense of disabled veterans.

Must be a hard pill to swallow if you are running a charity for amputees and you have someone who could participate but can't because of how expensive and restrictive it is, while the wife of the patron receives inappropriate star billing.

I think it would be very entertaining!!

They'd never run it though. Too much to lose!

https://archive.ph/4TDQm

https://www.thetimes.com/life-style/celebrity/article/montecito-harry-meghan-live-california-town-kz3n7mhgp

On how utterly boring, beige and vacuous Montecito is.

This is this particular posters MO, they name change for each thread but their very lengthy posting style and telling posters off repeatedly for being ‘rude’ is their tell.

This post was for @FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger

I hope they don’t take their children to Invictus for the children’s sake, suddenly being in front of a barrage of photographers, on the world stage in front of crowds of hundreds of noisy spectators when as far as we know they have lived an incredibly sheltered quiet life in Montecito, it would be a real shock for them.

@Atlasvue that is a great perspective on life in Montecito, very humourous, but also a bit tragic that Harry has ended up living in a place like that, I think I would go insane living in a place like that.

I was thinking that too. Quite apart from
the fact that probably they’ll have to have time out of school/nursery.

Thank you, @BigWillyLittleTodger .

Well, not a surprise. For people who prioritise image over anything more substantial.

The trouble is, image is so difficult to control. Following your interests is within your control - when you don't have to worry about basic needs. What other people think of you is impossible to control, no matter how much money you have.

The problem is H&M don't seem to have much in the way of genuine interests - the sort of ordinary/weird but interesting quirks such as knitting, collecting antique buttons, geocaching, making lace doilies, collecting garden gnomes, or anything else. The things people do because they want to and don't care about what other people think.

Maybe they do. Maybe Meghan genuinely loves hiking, and got papped on a hike by accident. The picture of Harry and his dog both soaking wet suggests he does get pleasure out of walking the dog - as do many of us! Truly, I wish they could find things that make them happy without chasing public approval. They don't need to work, they can afford to follow their interests and do things just because they enjoy it. Trek across wherever on horseback. Collect and become an expert on the fine details of mid-20th century lace doily design...

Thank you for the article @Atlasvue . I can now see why they drive an hour to the "In 'N' Out" burger place, to eat something deliciously highly processed that hasn't had the joy sucked out of it. As a devoted Londoner, Montecito sounds like an utter nightmare.

Thedom, The woman referred to Meghan as a leech and a parasite, and wants to see Meghan ‘humiliated.’ The dehumanising of Meghan. I definitely wouldn’t look to her for an unbiased opinion about Invictus.

Who speaks about another woman like that? This woman does. Just lovely.

If anyone wants info on Invictus I suggest the Invictus websites. Also look at the defence forces official veterans sites in different countries that work with Invictus. There are Invictus programs working with various defence forces that also involve other psychological and physical health programs. In my country they have hiking surfing football programs and so on. Social gatherings with families are organised. The Invictus Organisation do a lot more than the games. I suspect that particular tweeter’s country - the US - probably don’t fund their veterans fully to attend Invictus Games because a) veteran funding for anything has fallen through the floor and it looks to be getting worse under Trump and b) The US also has the Warriors Games which I imagine they would fund more substantially. But that is no excuse for that woman to dehumanise Meghan. There is no valid excuse whatsoever for anyone to dehumanise Meghan.

Also watching the actual games or streaming the documentary series on Invictus helps to understand it.

It’s not Meghan’s fault the media and social media choose to focus on her instead of the games. When she came later to the German games, tabloid media and social media were asking ‘where is Meghan’? when she arrived they were then saying ‘how dare she be here’ ?

Is it that they say 'how dare she be here?' Or 'how dare she put herself front and centre?'

My impression is that she only attends events where she can be the focus of attention e.g. marching ahead of veterans. Just being present but directing attention to others doesn't seem to be her skill set

Let's hope the veterans are front and centre where they belong, otherwise what's the point ?
Is it for them ? Or is it for Harry and Meghan ?
Or is it a scam ?

Well you clearly haven't eaten there. 🙄 In and Out burger uses 100% meat no additives or preservatives, not from frozen etc. When I first went to the US my American friends took me there they always rave about it and it was actually really good and much healthier than many other fast food places.

So whilst it's categorised as a fast food place it's not ultra processed.

Just another one of your misunderstandings 🤪

Is Invictus a scam?

WTF

Really? It seems like you would like it to be a scam just to feel validated in your negative opinions of Meghan.

If you watch the actual games (they are streamed so you can) instead of reading media reports and sm reports and photos of the games which inevitably emphasise Meghan’s presence, you will see that the veterans are very much front and centre. So are their families.

It’s the consumers of all things Meghan who place her front and centre in this. She really isn’t. If you want to see lots of her you will manage it courtesy of tabloid media and sm. If you want to see a little of her and a lot of the actual games you can - by watching the actual games. Your choice. But don’t complain about what you choose to consume/watch/read.

I’m tired of this bit of debate for now.

More like ‘we will focus on her and absolutely centre her, and then demand, ‘why is she front and centre ?’ The tabloid media and sm are itching for her to be there and will absolutely focus on her.

@Spectre8

Well you clearly haven't eaten there. 🙄 In and Out burger uses 100% meat no additives or preservatives, not from frozen etc. When I first went to the US my American friends took me there they always rave about it and it was actually really good and much healthier than many other fast food places.

🤣🤣🤣 as an American I wouldn't feed in & out burgers to the wild foxes that harass my ducks

You need better friends

When I read the VF article I did wonder if Harry would try to make a court case out of it.

reports and photos of the games which inevitably emphasise Meghan’s presence,

Meghan takes to the stage giving a speech, introduces her husband and invites her 'husband; onto the stage.🙄

Meghan takes to the stage and gives a speech including personal reasons for being a few days late 🙄

Meghan thanking veterans and their families for being there 🙄

Meghan giving out medals 🙄

Meghan leading a parade of veterans 🙄

Meghan wearing different and often expensive outfits for every event 🙄

The 43-year-old revealed that once she was aware of her fashion influence, it “changed everything in terms of how I then looked at putting an outfit together”.Times where I know there is a global spotlight, and attention will be given to each detail of what I may or may not be wearing,

Prefers high fashion rather than be seen in Invictus Games casual merch 🙄

Yeah right ... Meghan does not emphases or promotes her presence at Invictus.Games, on the contrary her public relations teams work overtime during the games.