Is there another couple in the world like The Sussexes?

[veraswaistcoat]

I was musing last night about this aspect - they had the world at their feet. Despite what Sussex Supporters like to suggest most people in the UK nodded their heads " yes it was lovely Harry was getting married finally" . I had never heard of the bride myself as I don't watch American tv shows of that ilk. She was black or biracial? It didn't even enter my head what colour she was initially and then as coverage started it didn't make one iota of difference one way or the other. I recall the day of the wedding - it was sunny and the pubs were full of royal cheer broadcasting the wedding.

And then it all started to where we are today.

Are there any other couples in the world who have gone through such a downfall? Is this a feature of the social media arena today?
We see P Diddy and Blake Lively and others exposed now through SM.
You can't count the Duke and Duchess of Windsor in this category as they were always unpopular.

Can you think of any examples of people who have fallen so spectacularly?

I know people say " they live in California, they have money blah blah" but their reputation is one that most people would not want.

Is it purely because of their seeming complaining and sense of entitlement ? I mean you don't see the real philanthropists in this way - in fact you rarely hear about them and what they do.

i noticed that she always referred to the familial link - your brother , your Grandmother etc - never by their title .
For someone who is so insistent on being known as a Duchess , it was downright rude.

It was also a way of disassociating herself with Harry's family. It was his stuff, and nothing to do with her and her trajectory.

I think Meghan likes to project herself as living in a very two dimensional cutesy Hallmark movie world. The Queen in her mind was assigned the role of 'sweet little old Grandma'. It must have been a shock to Meghan when the whole world paused to mark the Queen's death.

Of course it's weird to bow/curtsey to your mother/grandmother the first time you see them each day. But that's because an inherited head of state is weird in this day and age.

If you find it unacceptable - and compared to some elected head of states I think the weirdness is preferable - then don't sign up. If you are 'mad about Harry' marry him without the royal wedding, and don't become a 'working royal'. Don't insist on the ridiculous title, complete with monogram and 'private office'.

Either sign up, or don't.

Both are perfectly valid choices. But they are mutually exclusive, you don't get to cherry pick. Well, not without getting called out on it.

If curtseying to the HoS is ridiculous, so are the Duke/Duchess titles they bestow.

Exactly

Either sign up, or don't. Exactly!

Apparently on a recent US podcast (not a Royal one), one of the presenters inadvertently mentioned the day previously at Altadena, the volunteers were told to 'take 15', all had to drop what they were doing and leave, it was only the following day they realised why, it was because Meghan and Harry had showed up, therefore everyone was cleared out,

It just beggars belief they have the audacity to not only get a guided tour of a disaster zone in the middle of said disaster, but then to disturb the volunteer efforts so they can attempt to create some much needed positive PR for themselves.

No, I can't think of any other couple who operate like they do.

It was a rushed marriage. Meghan wasn't prepared for the protocols expected of her. We may laugh at these protocols - let's be honest here NONE of us know who curtsies to who if at all in private 😂. If she was as ignorant about the RF as she claims she was then it may well have been a shock for her but you live and learn. I don't go in a skimpy outfit to old town Jeddah in Saudi. I don't go slagging the king of Thailand off in public. These things are common knowledge and if not then a sensible person googles and finds out or asks before they go. To be honest I'm surprised that she was surprised she was of Nigerian descent. Anyone with any understanding of the slave trade triangle knew the locations involved.

Wouldn't it be great if nobody ever posted anything that had to start with "apparently" "I heard" or "I read somewhere" 🤣

Apparently, Catherine's cancer diagnosis is complicated. I read that somewhere.

Yes, I read that too. Was quite interested to read the explanation

@FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger
Apparently, Catherine's cancer diagnosis is complicated. I read that somewhere"

Yes, you read it in my post. Which was based exclusively on statements that she has made herself. Which were kindly posted on here by others. In my opinion the words she used were confusing and would have been put under a microscope if others had used them. You are, of course, free to disagree.

I'm still not sure what was confusing though @CurlewKate.

She said 'Hey world, I had an op didn't go in thinking it was cancer, turns out cancer was found. Had preventative (or adjuvant for another word) chemo which is aimed at preventing cancer coming back by chasing down any stray cells not removed via surgery. Finished chemo, focus on staying well and free from cancer. Am now excited to be in remission (presumably after the first round of post treatment scans showed no evidence of disease). I think 'NED' is used more in healthcare setting than remission but Cancer UK explained that remission fitted the bill too. Frankly, given the loons about her illness, I don't blame her for saying 'remission' rather than 'no evidence of disease' as that would set the Celebitchy lot off with 'see, we told you no evidence of cancer' I mean they still can't get their heads around the fact that no all chemo causes hair loss

In my opinion the words she used were confusing and would have been put under a microscope if others had used them
would have been? They have been. Countless times by people obsessed with thinking they have a right to know all her medical details.

Not that I think they are confusing or unclear anyway. But her being who she is hasn't in the least stopped her being criticised for releasing the information she wanted to.

I disagree.

Yes, it was all quite clear really

Did you have to wait long for the explanation?

A few days. And it amounted to nothing.

you well know the evidence out there so don't be ingenuous. You are welcome to come to a different conclusion to me. however as I am probably much more experienced that you in the care of pregnant women and the delivery of babies I will stick to my own conclusion.

the fact that you think its bollocks is of no interest to me.

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This is still rumbling on ? I expect it is because again you have hinted at something that suggests that the truth was not told. I don't know why you don't have the courage of your convictions to state it ? Is it because this is basically gossip and insinuation you are passing on as people do not really know all the ins and outs.

@veraswaistcoat "
This is still rumbling on ? I expect it is because again you have hinted at something that suggests that the truth was not told. I don't know why you don't have the courage of your convictions to state it ? Is it because this is basically gossip and insinuation you are passing on as people do not really know all the ins and outs"

It was brought up again by others, not me. But for clarity, my point was not that the truth was not told-although I do actually think that more openness earlier would have made it much easier for the PofW to preserve her privacy and reduce speculation. As happened with the king. My point was that the slightest inconsistency brings up an appalling torrent of speculation and abuse against,for example, Meghan. This thread is a case in point. Someone claiming to be a midwife saying she was never pregnant. A still from a video "proving" that she despised the Queen, or something like that. There are threads and threads about Meghan-most of the content basically "gossip and insinuation" (note I say "most" not "all".) I don't like seeing one woman being fair game for any and all speculation and rumour and one being on a pedestal. But to be honest, I despise them all.

You despise Meghan, @CurlewKate?

Why?

@CurlewKate I would say this is an evasive answer by yourself as it still does not address what you originally said. No matter! Saying that some people bring up things about Meghan is irrelevant and nothing to do with an accusation of something not being right about the Princess of Wales' illness.

It’s quite a passive-aggressive way of trying to diminish their importance. There’s a real trend for it in academic and medical fields, where women are not accorded their ‘Professor’ or ‘Dr’ titles in interviews, at conferences etc.