Harry v. NGN

[Atlasvue]

Starting a thread for Tuesday.
This BBC article covers the basics. This is the last line ….
’Tuesday really is the beginning of the end. And someone is going to lose - and lose big.’

I have a feeling, that Harry won’t win but he just wants to use the public setting to air his grievances. A therapy session would have worked out much cheaper.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2l00xkgwnyo

You need to read your own post. It does not say the Sun committed phone hacking at all. It says unlawful incidents. That doesn’t mean phone hacking.

Harry had his phone hacking part of the case thrown out.

So again, no phone hacking by the Sun.

All I'm going to say at this point is...
If we are believing unknown sources about the amount of the settlement and the ( awful) British media about what this all means in relation to this court case , then logically we must believe all the ( multiple) unnamed sources and the ( now US ) media about all the rather unsavoury behaviour of Meghan and Harry !
Otherwise it would seem we have ( Like Harry ) a rather obvious double standard!

No phone hacking from the Sun. That’s what you had stated. It doesn’t state that at all.
What it said for the Sun- was unlawful incidents by PIs. It does not link journalists, editors and owners of the Sun.

I'm not sure how often this has to be repeated!

The best lawyers in the land will have spent very expensive hours haggling over the exact wording, which does not admit guilt by The Sun. That's almost always the case with settlements of civil cases. The claimant gets money in return for the defendant not admitting liability. Harry said that wasn't enough for him and he demanded 'accountability', which he did not get.

I think the argument over whether or not it was a 'win' is pointless because, as I said above, both sides will have conceded on some points and got their way on others. Again, that's typical in out of court settlements.

But honestly, I'm not sure it's worth the bother of trying to argue with people who aren't prepared to discuss in good faith.

This case has nothing to do with phone hacking, that was thrown out.

Are you really so lacking in comprehension skills??!!

He said he was taking it all the way through court. He did not.

Is that too far a reach for you to understand?!!

Seriously?

Okay Sun admitted "incidents of unlawful activities carried out by private investigators working for The Sun."

Can you point out where that statement says The Sun admitted to phone hacking?

"NGN offers a full and unequivocal apology to the Duke of Sussex for the serious intrusion by The Sun between 1996 and 2011 into his private life, including incidents of unlawful activities carried out by private investigators working for The Sun."

They admitted illegal activity. They have never done that before. And they lied to the Leveson Enquiry.

They absolutely did not admit to illegality.

Do you understand the distinction? They chose their words very very carefully.

NGN offers a full and unequivocal apology to the Duke of Sussex for the serious intrusion by The Sun between 1996 and 2011 into his private life, including incidents of unlawful activities carried out by private investigators working for The Sun.

This is admitting illegal activity.

"Serious intrusion" does not mean "hacking"!!

Punctuation matters...

Not when the unlawful activities aren’t linked to the journalists, editors and owners of the Sun.

The whole point of Harry’s case- was that they knew and covered it up. That wasn’t part of their apology.

It will be seen as rogue PIs.

Harry was happy to sign off on that for the cash.

It doesn't say the Sun - it says the News of the World???!

I'd also just like to remind the readers that it was Harry who pushed for the settlement in the past few days.

His team approached NGN, NGN had a settlement offer on the table for months but were prepared for court.

I'm sure Harry's settlement was substantial, but the fact he approached them about it makes me wonder if it wasnt an increased settlement NGN suddenly offered, or Harry being willing to accept what was already there. Which indicates to me a settlement at the lower end of the figures claimed.

You are wrong.
Do you understand how publishing works? When a publication publishes an article they have to check the journalist has trustworthy and legal sources. That is literally the publications job.

And the Royal family also got a settlement. They were happy to accept the cash.
I am fine with that, but it is strange that you criticise Harry for accepting cash and not other members of the Royal family.

I've highlighted it for you as you seem to be struggling to focus.

I’m not wrong and there won’t be any further investigations into this.

@MrsFinkelstein
Posting again since you seem to be having problems reading it.

NGN offers a full and unequivocal apology to the Duke of Sussex for the serious intrusion by The Sun between 1996 and 2011 into his private life, including incidents of unlawful activities carried out by private investigators working for The Sun.

Can you really not see the issue?

@MrsFinkelstein so quite possibly accepted the same settlement that had been on the table for a long time.

It's getting comical now.

I mean, it's literally just there, written down....

But William did it without causing a spectacle and branding himself a dragon slayer. He also donated his settlement.

NGN offers a full and unequivocal apology to the Duke of Sussex for the serious intrusion by The Sun between 1996 and 2011 into his private life, including incidents of unlawful activities carried out by private investigators working for The Sun.

It literally says The Sun

Oh FFS this is getting ridiculous!

Prince William didn't set himself up on some form of crusade the way Harry did. He dealt with it quietly and discreetly as befits the future king.

He's said to have donated the cash to charity anyway. Let's see if Harry does the same. I doubt it.

I find it strange that you appear not to see any difference but I rather think that is deliberate.