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The royal family

Harry v. NGN

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Atlasvue · 19/01/2025 10:02

Starting a thread for Tuesday.
This BBC article covers the basics. This is the last line ….
Tuesday really is the beginning of the end. And someone is going to lose - and lose big.

I have a feeling, that Harry won’t win but he just wants to use the public setting to air his grievances. A therapy session would have worked out much cheaper.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2l00xkgwnyo

Prince Harry leaves the court during his hacking case against the Daily Mirror. He wears a dark coloured suit, white shirt and tie. His barrister David Sherborne, also dressed in a dark suit is on his left.  A crowd of photographers are behind a metal...

Prince Harry versus newspapers: This is the one that matters

Prince Harry’s legal battle against British tabloids for allegedly unlawfully intruding into his life reaches its most important moment on Tuesday.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2l00xkgwnyo

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Atlasvue · 22/01/2025 22:47

boredashellbythiscrap · 22/01/2025 22:44

How old are you 12?

Well I hardly think Gen Alpha keep up with royal gossip, but good try.

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mainecooncatonahottinroof · 22/01/2025 22:47

Atlasvue · 22/01/2025 22:35

Always the same. They were very quiet when the VF bullying article came out, but now they are back out trying to convince others that Harry backtracking on his word and accepting cash instead, is victory. Just for good measure they also claim others hateful, salty, have a vendetta if they don’t believe the same nonsense.

It is so freaking tedious!

Choccyscofffy · 22/01/2025 22:49

Serenster · 22/01/2025 22:31

And that was the bit was Harry was aiming to prove in court. But he settled, so he hasn’t.

This is really now for parliament to take on. NGN have mislead the Leveson enquiry and previous victims, as NGN denied the allegations of unlawful activities (which they have now admitted).

This is much wider than just Harry and it’s unfair to expect him to fix it for the government.

Choccyscofffy · 22/01/2025 22:49

pelargoniums · 22/01/2025 22:46

Oh my god, five more pages of “I’m rubber, you’re glue” before the thread limit puts us out of our misery – can’t we get back to 90s tabloid jokes and contacting Princess Di by ouija board to see which son is her favourite?

🤣

JoyousGreyOrca · 22/01/2025 22:50

Choccyscofffy · 22/01/2025 22:49

This is really now for parliament to take on. NGN have mislead the Leveson enquiry and previous victims, as NGN denied the allegations of unlawful activities (which they have now admitted).

This is much wider than just Harry and it’s unfair to expect him to fix it for the government.

I agree Parliament need to take this up now

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 22/01/2025 22:52

Choccyscofffy · 22/01/2025 22:49

This is really now for parliament to take on. NGN have mislead the Leveson enquiry and previous victims, as NGN denied the allegations of unlawful activities (which they have now admitted).

This is much wider than just Harry and it’s unfair to expect him to fix it for the government.

Well that's not what he said. Nobody expected him to do it by himself but he boasted that he would, so he was all Billy Big Balls until push came to shove.

If there are wider repercussions, it will be in spite of Harry, not because of him!

Atlasvue · 22/01/2025 22:52

There’s nothing new added- the Gov are not going to look into anything.

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mainecooncatonahottinroof · 22/01/2025 22:53

JoyousGreyOrca · 22/01/2025 22:50

I agree Parliament need to take this up now

What is there to take on? There's really nothing new in that statement. Do you think Murdoch's lawyers are stupid?!

JoyousGreyOrca · 22/01/2025 22:54

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 22/01/2025 22:53

What is there to take on? There's really nothing new in that statement. Do you think Murdoch's lawyers are stupid?!

They lied to the Leveson Enquiry

boredashellbythiscrap · 22/01/2025 22:55

Instead of parliament why doesn't the OP and her followers take it on they seem to think they are experts on the subject.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 22/01/2025 22:55

JoyousGreyOrca · 22/01/2025 22:54

They lied to the Leveson Enquiry

Sure. If you say so.

JoyousGreyOrca · 22/01/2025 22:55

boredashellbythiscrap · 22/01/2025 22:55

Instead of parliament why doesn't the OP and her followers take it on they seem to think they are experts on the subject.

Why the snark?

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 22/01/2025 22:56

boredashellbythiscrap · 22/01/2025 22:55

Instead of parliament why doesn't the OP and her followers take it on they seem to think they are experts on the subject.

Have you actually got anything constructive to contribute or are you just here to insult people?!!

You're no expert on it, that much I can tell!

Atlasvue · 22/01/2025 22:56

The apology :

There is no admission of phone hacking, surveillance or misuse of private information at the Sun; just the News of the World, which closed more than a decade ago. Admissions of “unlawful activity” are confined to private investigators, with no executive heads rolling, no forensic examination of any cover-up, and no airing of new details of the “serious intrusion” that NGN admits to.

Theres nothing new. No one will be investigating anything.

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Atlasvue · 22/01/2025 22:58

boredashellbythiscrap · 22/01/2025 22:55

Instead of parliament why doesn't the OP and her followers take it on they seem to think they are experts on the subject.

Take what on? A minute ago you thought I was 12, now I’m taking on a leadership role?

Make your mind up.

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JoyousGreyOrca · 22/01/2025 22:59

@Atlasvue The Sun until now have said they have had zero involvement with phone hacking. They now admit involvement.

bluegreygreen · 22/01/2025 22:59

As someone who occasionally reads but doesn't post on Royal threads:

Thanks to those who have tried to clarify facts rather than speculation

Many thanks to @Serenster for reference back to the original Leveson report

It would be good of @JoyousGreyOrca to do Milly Dowler and her family the courtesy of spelling her name correctly

JoyousGreyOrca · 22/01/2025 23:01

@bluegreygreen Apologies for the mis spelling.
Shame you missed my comments quoting from the Leveson report as well. Never mind.

Atlasvue · 22/01/2025 23:03

JoyousGreyOrca · 22/01/2025 22:59

@Atlasvue The Sun until now have said they have had zero involvement with phone hacking. They now admit involvement.

They absolutely don’t. See above quote from the telegraph

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JoyousGreyOrca · 22/01/2025 23:04

Murdoch's British newspaper wing, News UK, offered a "full and unequivocal apology" to Harry for what it admitted were unlawful intrusions on his privacy from 1996 to 2011, for the strain it put on his family, and even for its actions toward his mother, the late Princess Diana.
It acknowledged "phone hacking, surveillance and misuse of private information by journalists and private investigators instructed by them at the News of the World." It further admitted "incidents of unlawful activities carried out by private investigators working for The Sun."
"After endless resistance, denials and legal battles ... to prevent the full picture from coming out, News UK is finally held to account for its illegal actions and its blatant disregard for the law," David Sherborne, the lead attorney for Prince Harry and former Member of Parliament Tom Watson, said outside the courthouse shortly after the settlement was announced.

JoyousGreyOrca · 22/01/2025 23:06

Wednesday's statement is the first admission by Murdoch's corporate empire of wrongdoing by The Sun.

In addition to News UK's apology to Harry, the company offered an apology to former Member of Parliament Tom Watson, a senior Labour Party leader who is now a member of the House of Lords, for surveilling him from 2009 to 2011, when he was investigating the Murdoch tabloids for Parliament.

Atlasvue · 22/01/2025 23:09

JoyousGreyOrca · 22/01/2025 23:04

Murdoch's British newspaper wing, News UK, offered a "full and unequivocal apology" to Harry for what it admitted were unlawful intrusions on his privacy from 1996 to 2011, for the strain it put on his family, and even for its actions toward his mother, the late Princess Diana.
It acknowledged "phone hacking, surveillance and misuse of private information by journalists and private investigators instructed by them at the News of the World." It further admitted "incidents of unlawful activities carried out by private investigators working for The Sun."
"After endless resistance, denials and legal battles ... to prevent the full picture from coming out, News UK is finally held to account for its illegal actions and its blatant disregard for the law," David Sherborne, the lead attorney for Prince Harry and former Member of Parliament Tom Watson, said outside the courthouse shortly after the settlement was announced.

Uh huh.

No phone hacking from the Sun. That’s what you had stated. It doesn’t state that at all.

What it said for the Sun- was unlawful incidents by PIs. It does not link journalists, editors and owners of the Sun.

So what I said stands. There’s no new info. No one is investigating anything.

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BreadInCaptivity · 22/01/2025 23:11

I am really quite perplexed by some comments here.

It's perfectly possible to be pleased that Harry and Tom got what is likely to be substantial payouts from NGN whilst also questioning a narrative that he "won".

He did not achieve to do what he has publicly stated he set out to do in respect of having his day in court and holding senior executives at NGN responsible for the scandal.

He has also further undermined his much depreciated credibility by going back on his word. He's proven yet again that his word is not to be trusted.

So yes he's (most likely I think, though we won't ever know) "up" financially even after legal fees it doesn't look like winning (in the longer term) to me, especially in light of the VF article, the potential implications for the Sussex income stream and the fact nothing material has changed in respect of NGN accountability and press practices that was not tackled as part of previous cases/Levinson.

JoyousGreyOrca · 22/01/2025 23:13

Atlasvue · 22/01/2025 23:09

Uh huh.

No phone hacking from the Sun. That’s what you had stated. It doesn’t state that at all.

What it said for the Sun- was unlawful incidents by PIs. It does not link journalists, editors and owners of the Sun.

So what I said stands. There’s no new info. No one is investigating anything.

It says phone hacking by private investigators hired by The Sun.
The Sun always claimed they were not involved in phone hacking. But they were through private investigators they hired.

JoyousGreyOrca · 22/01/2025 23:14

@BreadInCaptivity Harry has proven his word is not to be trusted because he did not go bankrupt? Seriously?

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