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Atlasvue · 17/01/2025 17:38

Carrying on.

Employee feels Harry is happy doing charity work and is happy for meghan to do all the work to make money so he doesn’t need to

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CaraCameleon · 21/01/2025 22:07

It’s quite sad really how many people struggle to accept that a woman can fall in love with a man who happens to be a future King for himself and not the status. Imagine if the same attitude was present for men marrying Princesses. Does anyone struggle to believe that Eugenie and Beatrice’s husbands love them and not their connections? Why these double standards? Did anyone suggest that Margaret’s husband only wanted to marry her because she was the Queen's sister? He was a terrible husband, but he most probably did love her when he married her. Likewise Princess Anne’s husbands.
I don’t remember Sarah Ferguson being accused of marrying Andrew for the kudos. Why is Kate so often accused of trapping William as if he were a wild animal in the jungle? He has a mind of his own .

BasiliskStare · 21/01/2025 22:29

I buggered up there . My main point was although both Harry & William must have some extra glamour being princes - Kate has stuck by it and is doing the job she knew she would be marrying into & she will have to for a long time to come.

BreadInCaptivity · 21/01/2025 22:33

CaraCameleon · 21/01/2025 22:07

It’s quite sad really how many people struggle to accept that a woman can fall in love with a man who happens to be a future King for himself and not the status. Imagine if the same attitude was present for men marrying Princesses. Does anyone struggle to believe that Eugenie and Beatrice’s husbands love them and not their connections? Why these double standards? Did anyone suggest that Margaret’s husband only wanted to marry her because she was the Queen's sister? He was a terrible husband, but he most probably did love her when he married her. Likewise Princess Anne’s husbands.
I don’t remember Sarah Ferguson being accused of marrying Andrew for the kudos. Why is Kate so often accused of trapping William as if he were a wild animal in the jungle? He has a mind of his own .

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Perhaps they take into account that woman's relationship history?

That they have built a legacy with both friends and "romantic" relationships of trading up when given the opportunity.

That with the exception of their mother they have been unable to sustain any long term meaningful relationship with anyone that was not to their advantage (money/status) and been ruthless in discarding anyone who threatened that.

For my part I'm happy to give anyone the benefit of the doubt but as the saying goes, fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

WeCantGoOverIt · 21/01/2025 22:45

BreadInCaptivity · 21/01/2025 22:33

Perhaps they take into account that woman's relationship history?

That they have built a legacy with both friends and "romantic" relationships of trading up when given the opportunity.

That with the exception of their mother they have been unable to sustain any long term meaningful relationship with anyone that was not to their advantage (money/status) and been ruthless in discarding anyone who threatened that.

For my part I'm happy to give anyone the benefit of the doubt but as the saying goes, fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

Who are you referring to?

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 21/01/2025 22:50

BreadInCaptivity · 21/01/2025 22:33

Perhaps they take into account that woman's relationship history?

That they have built a legacy with both friends and "romantic" relationships of trading up when given the opportunity.

That with the exception of their mother they have been unable to sustain any long term meaningful relationship with anyone that was not to their advantage (money/status) and been ruthless in discarding anyone who threatened that.

For my part I'm happy to give anyone the benefit of the doubt but as the saying goes, fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

Eh?

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 21/01/2025 23:30

BreadInCaptivity · 21/01/2025 22:33

Perhaps they take into account that woman's relationship history?

That they have built a legacy with both friends and "romantic" relationships of trading up when given the opportunity.

That with the exception of their mother they have been unable to sustain any long term meaningful relationship with anyone that was not to their advantage (money/status) and been ruthless in discarding anyone who threatened that.

For my part I'm happy to give anyone the benefit of the doubt but as the saying goes, fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

Not a scooby what you are on about?!

garlicandsapphires · 21/01/2025 23:40

Haha she DOES smile at richer for poorer, I just watched on YT. Grin
what a surreal moment for her

Lancrelady80 · 21/01/2025 23:49

Well you would find that amusing if you were marrying the king to be, wouldn't you? I was ill at my wedding and the vows got a small chuckle in my voice at the "in sickness and health" bit. It's recognition of the situation rather than self-congratulation, in my opinion.

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 22/01/2025 00:21

After 4 years of going out, William and Catherine split up for a good nine months between 2007and 2008. I assume that if William had not wanted to risk being re-ensnared by the evil, common, mud blood, gold-digging Catherine, he'd have asked daddy to sort out an arranged marriage with some European royal totty post haste. After all, he was clearly helpless in the face of the onslaught of her undignified seduction techniques, those trips to the sultry sex den that is Waitrose and party bags full of rubber goods. Of course she overpowered the state too, there's nothing QEII, MI5, the men in grey, or the powerful fathers of any of the other much more suitable top class totty could do about the Catherine juggernaut. When he reportedly made a beeline for her at the party and begged her reconcile, she'd actually used a taser on him and had had him hypnotised. She waited another 4 years to get him to the alter for shits and giggles, such was her confidence that eventually she'd hit the jackpot and get the invitation to Christmas at Sandringham and a wardrobe full of weird hats.

LivelyMintViper · 22/01/2025 00:30

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 22/01/2025 00:21

After 4 years of going out, William and Catherine split up for a good nine months between 2007and 2008. I assume that if William had not wanted to risk being re-ensnared by the evil, common, mud blood, gold-digging Catherine, he'd have asked daddy to sort out an arranged marriage with some European royal totty post haste. After all, he was clearly helpless in the face of the onslaught of her undignified seduction techniques, those trips to the sultry sex den that is Waitrose and party bags full of rubber goods. Of course she overpowered the state too, there's nothing QEII, MI5, the men in grey, or the powerful fathers of any of the other much more suitable top class totty could do about the Catherine juggernaut. When he reportedly made a beeline for her at the party and begged her reconcile, she'd actually used a taser on him and had had him hypnotised. She waited another 4 years to get him to the alter for shits and giggles, such was her confidence that eventually she'd hit the jackpot and get the invitation to Christmas at Sandringham and a wardrobe full of weird hats.

Well, that seems to have pretty much comprehensively covered the issue.

Starlia · 22/01/2025 01:49

Although I think King Charles would ensure Harry would never be broke should things fall apart with Megan, I wonder if the future King. William would feel the same way?

King Charles won’t be around forever.

Mymanyellow · 22/01/2025 06:23

GreenTeaLikesMe · 21/01/2025 21:43

The UK really needs some sort of law protecting those who are in relationships with members of the royal family. Nobody (Catherine, Meghan or anyone else) should have to put up with some of the harassment that we've seen.

Some version of the Swedish system where anyone marrying into the RF has to go to "prince/princess school," actually learn and study a bunch of stuff, and then get formally integrated, would help too.

Meghan wouldn’t have gone to princess school! She knew it all remember she was going to ‘hit the ground running’

leftorrightnow · 22/01/2025 07:13

MummyJ12 · 21/01/2025 21:09

Here’s a grey rock for you.
If I have to explain, you obviously just don’t or don’t want to understand.

Well I know it’s a tough question to answer.

royals - the once who marry into it or the born and bred ones - don’t contribute anything to the population. All they do is live off them. Arguments about royals being good for tourism or trade delegations going abroad are nonsense and every country that doesn’t have royals and still have lots of tourism and trade are proof of that. People still visit the Versailles even though no royals live there - in fact, they get to go in there!

growing up in a monarchy - and this goes the the UK and all the other ones - peasants are brainwashed from childhood into feeling in awe of random descendants of feudal lords of the past, so that these descendants (who usually become more and more feckless each generation) can continue to live in glamour on tax payers money, meanwhile an increasing number of kids in this country rely on food banks and have rotten teeth. It’s a disgrace.

whether Kate genuinely was/ are in love with William is not my place to judge. She may have been and why not? What’s abundantly clear is that she had a targeted campaign at first to get to him, and that she was always a girl into a lavish lifestyle. If they love each other that’s good for them, but why should UK taxpayers have to pay for their up keep in luxury just for laughs? They can go and live happily ever after on their own accord.

pelargoniums · 22/01/2025 07:14

Starlia · 22/01/2025 01:49

Although I think King Charles would ensure Harry would never be broke should things fall apart with Megan, I wonder if the future King. William would feel the same way?

King Charles won’t be around forever.

Keep your enemies close: as it is, Harry’s a loose cannon. Should things fall apart with Meghan, I imagine KC would set Harry up in a small home on one of the estates, cover food and bills with strict oversight, but only if he never gives interviews, doesn’t do XYZ, etc, and he doesn’t get to participate in royal occasions. Basically Andrew but under more control. No reason Will would cut him loose from such a deal – it’s low-cost, high-benefit vs the optics of a broke Harry staggering around London becoming the UK equivalent of a Samantha Markle (or hey, Kate’s Uncle Gary), selling any stories he can for cash.

Mind you, Harry only needs such a deal if his own money disappears – all to play for today in court!

smilesy · 22/01/2025 07:33

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 21/01/2025 23:30

Not a scooby what you are on about?!

I think the poster may have misunderstood the previous posts and thinks the future king being referred to is Charles and not William 😂

MrsFinkelstein · 22/01/2025 07:38

Mymanyellow · 22/01/2025 06:23

Meghan wouldn’t have gone to princess school! She knew it all remember she was going to ‘hit the ground running’

She was supplied with a 30 point dossier 6m before the wedding which she didn't look at, refused the support of Sophie Wessex, Susan Hussey, and also the Queens own Equerry (because he was too black).

Would she have gone to Princess school? I mean, she'd seen the Princess Diaries and The Little Mermaid - what more did she need?

Reetpetitenot · 22/01/2025 07:39

'People still visit the Versailles even though no royals live there - in fact, they get to go in there!'

This argument is frequently trotted out by anti monarchists. People go to Versailles because of the royal connections, they are fascinated by the Louis and Marie Antoinette, Madame de Pompadour and Richelieu. The French love the rf - half the covers on their magazine stands are of the royal families of Europe.

If you feel like a feudal, brainwashed peasant 😁 that's on you. Abolishing the monarchy will not make one jot of difference to children living in poverty. Do you think an elected Head of State would cost the taxpayer nothing?

WeCantGoOverIt · 22/01/2025 07:55

don’t contribute anything to the population

Kate contributed three to the population.

myrtleWilson · 22/01/2025 07:59

Was this peasant brainwashing thing a compulsory course? I don’t remember attending it but of course I was probably zapped men in black style at the end if it.
am not sure though though if the muscle memory has endured - I’m not entirely confident in my forelock tugging abilities. Are there refresher classes one can sign up for?

Plus, I have questions about the fecklessness of generations of feudal lords. Is fecklessness infinitesimal or do they self combust in an orgy of fecklessness. Is combustible recklessness a contagion event so we see a ripple of feudal lords combusting turn into a tidal wave? What do the brainwashed peasants do at that point?

FromTheOfficeOfTheCrowPeople · 22/01/2025 08:08

leftorrightnow · 21/01/2025 07:08

Haha ok then! I attended an invoctus pre event recently and neither Israel nor Columbia was there. So forgot about them.

it still stands for the UK though and if I’m not mistaken, the vast majority of the countries in Invictus.

I think also for Columbia, they have conscripts but they don’t get send to conflict zones? Severs if the other countries have conscripts too but you only get send to combat if you volunteer so the difference I’m referring to isn’t conscripts or not, but whether conscripts get deployed to conflict zones.

I don't know what sort of event you attended recently if you didn't know that members admitted to Invictus in 2022 included - with some fanfare - Israel and Colombia.

Also, Nigeria joined. Nigeria too has a form of national service aka conscription.

Israel's IDF team made its debut at the 2023 games in Düsseldorf.

Do you really think there aren't conflict zones within and around the borders of Israel, Colombia and Nigeria? That's certainly an interesting take on things.

Cublaca · 22/01/2025 08:26

Catherine already enjoyed a wealthy lifestyle thanks to her parents. Not BRF money, but enough for most people. She was moving in the right society circles, was pretty and smart. She was not going to marry a poor man no matter what, look at Pippa.

She probably struggled to find her identity in her twenties, but that is not uncommon. It is clear that her calling is to be a wife and mother, her career is to be a royal wife and she has been very succesful at both. William should be thanking his luck everyday because I feel it was the best thing has ever happened to him.

The only one said to have a plan to snare a british wealthy man was Meghan. Her so-called career was coming to an end. Suits was ending, and she was aging out of the hot chick roles. She was looking for a plan B and was lucky enough to find Harry.

MummyJ12 · 22/01/2025 08:39

Cublaca · 22/01/2025 08:26

Catherine already enjoyed a wealthy lifestyle thanks to her parents. Not BRF money, but enough for most people. She was moving in the right society circles, was pretty and smart. She was not going to marry a poor man no matter what, look at Pippa.

She probably struggled to find her identity in her twenties, but that is not uncommon. It is clear that her calling is to be a wife and mother, her career is to be a royal wife and she has been very succesful at both. William should be thanking his luck everyday because I feel it was the best thing has ever happened to him.

The only one said to have a plan to snare a british wealthy man was Meghan. Her so-called career was coming to an end. Suits was ending, and she was aging out of the hot chick roles. She was looking for a plan B and was lucky enough to find Harry.

Exactly, apparently Meghan had Ashley Cole in her sights (not sure if he was interested). She had also asked her representatives to get her on to Made In Chelsea, hence her friendship with Millie Mackintosh who was a Made In Chelsea cast member at the time. (Millie was ghosted and dropped promptly, as soon as Meghan started dating Harry and Millie was no longer useful or part of the plan).

Igavebirthtoabanana · 22/01/2025 08:45

Meghan also chased Matt Cardle 🤣

Re: Invictus, Denmark is taking part and has a conscription.

Norway, Sweden and Finland all have conscription too. Just FYI.

MummyJ12 · 22/01/2025 08:49

Meghan also chased Matt Cardle
That’s hilarious! 😂

She also chased Rory Mcilroy.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 22/01/2025 08:53

Lancrelady80 · 21/01/2025 23:49

Well you would find that amusing if you were marrying the king to be, wouldn't you? I was ill at my wedding and the vows got a small chuckle in my voice at the "in sickness and health" bit. It's recognition of the situation rather than self-congratulation, in my opinion.

My sister almost wet herself laughing throughout her entire vows. She could barely get the words out! She just suddenly found the whole thing extremely funny, and her FIL struggling to keep a straight face as she laughed made it worse.

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