With Love, Meghan - criticisms and genuine concern for her mental health

[Lavenderfarmcottage]

I am probably going to be flogged for posting this and chased down the dark laneways of Mumsnet as bystanders yell “Shame Shame Shame”.

I weighed in yesterday about a thread on Meghan and her new Netflix show. I made some criticisms about the trailer and certain cliche’s in the way it was produced. Hypocritical of me to be posting this but I feel guilty and have reflected. I am actually looking forward to watching it on Netflix and my criticisms were pretty minor and not exclusive to her show - it’s a common issue I have.

Meghan has struggled with mental health because of criticism. The reaction to ‘With Love… Meghan’ has been fairly brutal.

I think it would be really good if we refrained from saying anything negative about the series or Meghan Markle. That’s not the point of this thread.

I want to know if you think the criticisms have gone too far. The Princess of Wales is not on the scene and we are protective of her rightly so. That leaves Meghan as media fodder though.

Do you think it’s time Meghan and Harry were given a break ? I do. I think we’ve been far too harsh and the criticisms have gotten out of hand.

I think we also forget the cultural relevance. If we went into the homes or Gwyneth, Julia Roberts etc and I would probably feel the divide too. American culture doesn’t apologise for wealth and hollywoood is highly competitive.

Having a confident demeanour, throwing your head back Julia Roberts style when you laugh and unapologetically selling $$$ vagina products like Gwyneth Paltrow is how it over there. People talk loudly and confidently and are polished and rehearsed especially in the
Competitive world of Hollywood…

Are we all being too hard ?

Catherine's behaviour is nothing like Meghan's!! Zero comparison!

Plus William and Catherine took their time to make sure marriage was what they both really wanted, and for her to learn the ropes, unlike Harry dashing into marrying a woman he barely knew!

I don't know what makes you think that?!

He's the one who betrayed his own family for money.

It's pretty weird you called Prince Andrew a rapist with no other evidence that what you've no doubt read in the press? Which is what I'd based my view of Meghan also on...

Sounds pretty unhinged to me 😅

@samcro - it is clear from the text that the poster meant there was no division of opinion about him - not that he wasn't a controversial person.

Eh? I said ‘this level of aggression is weird’. I didn’t call anyone is weird or unhinged.

Are you calling me weird?

@mainecooncatonahottinroof "Obviously we can't know- but I cannot imagine QE2 saying that in a million years!

Why??? Did you know her personally?"

Nope. Just like nobody on this thread knows any of the people involved personally. But can you seriously imagine the late queen saying " They took the only thing that was truly mine-my nickname."? I can imagine her being privately cross, or saying to a confidante that it was a bit of a nerve, but that rubbish about "truly mine" like someone in a TicToc video? Never.

So you think Prince Andrew is innocent?

Hope you will be called out for calling me weird and unhinged!

I see the ol' 'whatabout' posters have returned under different guises.

I've zero idea if the man is innocent or not. It's not gone to court. I didn't call you weird? 🤔

Didn’t you say ‘it’s pretty weird you…’ and ‘sounds unhinged’ to me?

I didn't call you weird. I also didn't state I think you're unhinged (you did say that about me earlier though 😅).

Funny how saying things, or not saying things are only ever relevant when the person they're perceived to be directed at come into account?... Weird?!

Anyhoo, let's not digress from the actual thread, right? Or it'll just become personal vs opinions 👍

@Poppyseeds79 "Choccyscofffy
How would you react if Jeremy Clarkson's called for Catherine to be paraded naked through the streets being pelted with excrement?

Everyone would still think he's a knobhead. Which I'm sure they did regarding the comment about Meghan too"

You're sure about that? It'd be treated exactly the same? Fair enough.

And your comment shows you don't know the meaning of 'controversial'.

It means 'giving rise to public disagreement'.

I meant that there isn't any real disagreement about PA (on MN, or anywhere else really). He's universally condemned and is persona non grate in public life.

Jeez. The comprehension skills on here sometimes...

Andrew consistently polls well below H&M in the unpopularity polls, so let's not exaggerate and over-egg the pudding, shall we.

As the Queen once said, ‘Recollections may vary’. 🤣

I also didn't state I think you're unhinged (you did say that about me earlier though) 😅

I didn’t say you’re unhinged, I said ‘I’m not even going to respond to your baby shower rant, it’s unhinged.’

You were the one who said to me ‘Are you mental?’

Oh how those recollections vary!

The point is he doesn’t get entire threads of 1000 posts dedicated to tearing him down, like Meghan does.

MNers are more offended by Meghan sitting on the floor than they are by Prince Andrew raping a 17yo girl. Truly bizarre.

I'm 100% sure about that. Why wouldn't I be? Nobody likes Clarkson. He's been peddling his brand to be a dick for years. That's how he's made his fortune...

Even 'nice guy' James May said to my mates girlfriend on whilst at a road show. 'great tits!'... Grim 😒

Prince Andrew is not a convicted rapist or even technically a paedophile.

The Queen paid $16 million hush money to cover his crimes.

He was also friends with convicted rapists and pimps.

What a crazy world we live in where Meghan sitting on the floor is more interesting than Andrew’s crimes.

It was never about Meghan "sitting on the floor". It was about a video of her completely dismissing a woman with HIV relating her story of her child that died. Are we just rewriting the narrative of actual videoed events now?

The cheques have to start bouncing, more like.

You can imagine the thread about Andrew:

OP - Andrew is a complete sleaze.
NP- I agree
NP- so do I
NP- and me
NP- me too
NP- and me
........................

What is there to argue about or disagree with?

Yes …..what-about-Andrew ??
Just waiting for someone to bring up Sarah’s books and TV appearances.

Completely dismissing? What an exaggeration. She listened for most of it, and got distracted by the babies and toddlers. Hardly a crime.

But it gets more ire than Andrew.

Did it ever occur to you that there might be a good reason not to publish it???! You can be pretty sure they'd have been shouting from the rooftops if there was no truth in the allegations!