With Love, Meghan - criticisms and genuine concern for her mental health

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I am probably going to be flogged for posting this and chased down the dark laneways of Mumsnet as bystanders yell “Shame Shame Shame”.

I weighed in yesterday about a thread on Meghan and her new Netflix show. I made some criticisms about the trailer and certain cliche’s in the way it was produced. Hypocritical of me to be posting this but I feel guilty and have reflected. I am actually looking forward to watching it on Netflix and my criticisms were pretty minor and not exclusive to her show - it’s a common issue I have.

Meghan has struggled with mental health because of criticism. The reaction to ‘With Love… Meghan’ has been fairly brutal.

I think it would be really good if we refrained from saying anything negative about the series or Meghan Markle. That’s not the point of this thread.

I want to know if you think the criticisms have gone too far. The Princess of Wales is not on the scene and we are protective of her rightly so. That leaves Meghan as media fodder though.

Do you think it’s time Meghan and Harry were given a break ? I do. I think we’ve been far too harsh and the criticisms have gotten out of hand.

I think we also forget the cultural relevance. If we went into the homes or Gwyneth, Julia Roberts etc and I would probably feel the divide too. American culture doesn’t apologise for wealth and hollywoood is highly competitive.

Having a confident demeanour, throwing your head back Julia Roberts style when you laugh and unapologetically selling $$$ vagina products like Gwyneth Paltrow is how it over there. People talk loudly and confidently and are polished and rehearsed especially in the
Competitive world of Hollywood…

Are we all being too hard ?

@mainecooncatonahottinroof If you don’t know why - then that’s a worry.

And British people don't work for their money???

Long live the UK, where people in need are supported. We pay for our healthcare via our taxes.

I don't know how this is relevant though??? Knowing what we now know about Meghan, I am pretty sure she would have continued acting if she had wanted to!

It really isn't lol!

This thread has gone completely off the wall!!

I am pretty sure she would have continued acting if she had wanted to!

Provided anyone would hire her...out of curiosity, I once watched "Suits" ...

I was thinking the same myself, the bingo card is out and the bugles are being played

But but Andrew!
But but Prince Philip
Why do you care?
How do you know, were you there?
You don’t know them!

Ad nauseam

I’m waiting for a but but Henry the 8th.

Have we had salty island yet?

This is like the Twilight Zone.

I would hate to get ill with the current climate as it is. You can't get a doctor's appointment it's not something to be proud of. The NHS is crumbling before our eyes because they don't have the doctors or nurses to work in our hospitals. We don't have the money to fund our services because we left Europe and shrunk our economy. Me and partner have private medical insurance the one thing I won't play with is my health. Americans do have a better work ethic than we do because they will die if they don't.

It's horrendous - I have been on 2 waiting lists for 3+ years but I am not sure how relevant it is to this thread?

I've watched her she was good in Suits. You sound so miserable about her say something nice and cheerful about her.

It's a personal moan that's all

You’re not kidding. There’s been racism, personal attacks, judgments on people’s looks and body shaming. All from supporters of the Sussexes. I haven’t seen a thread so off the wall since early last year. Funnily enough.

I didn't buy the books - wouldn't spend the money but was sent a pdf from a friend who did ( unsolicited before you ask). Felt obliged to try it given the popular interest , but didn't get past the first chapter as felt it was very badly written and was already annoyed how he referred to his brothers reciding hairline and conversation he had with his dad on the day he buried a parent.
The TV interviews again I only saw as was working in a place showing it, so admitted only paid patial attention.

My earlier point being , had they focused purely on cooking, lifestyle guru tips, inviticus games etc I would wish them well now and be extremely critical about negative personal comments. However given they openly have been very critical about other individuals personally, I feel they it's extremely hypocritical to think others won't criticise them

You forget the Queen recommended that she kept her career, just like Sophie Winkleman did, but she wanted to 'hit the ground running' within the RF?
Plenty of royals live a pleasant, mostly anonymous life; it just wasn't the choice they made, within and outside of the RF.
But you are right of course, the state of her mental health is concerning.

Yes, it was trending and also started off in AIBU with a poll before being put over on The Royal Family board.
That's too boring an explanation for some though, must be a conspiracy theory somewhere instead 😁

Looking at all the royal family they are not that hard to criticise. I can say something negative about each and every one of them. I also criticise my own family because I can they are my family and I can say what I want. Harry can say what he wants about his family he knows them better than anyone on this thread. They will never disown Harry he is family and they understand. People want to know about the royal family they can get closer to them through Harry's book. I think you underestimate how close they really are.

They may have been close before Harry dissed several of them!!!

How can people "get closer to the through Harry's book"? That's actually nuts.

You sound like Piers Morgan and he had to be put in his place. You know nothing about their relationship or how close they are. Harry can visit anytime he wants when he visits. Harry has all the juicy gossip about the royals in his book that his family approved off. It's funny you never hear of a rift between them only hearsay from the dailyfail.

Hilarious!

@ThatRareUmberJoker Of course we’ll never really know the true state of their family relationships, but when Kate announced her cancer diagnosis last spring, it did appear as if Harry was unaware of her illness prior to the public announcement. That suggests a rift to me, if your brother doesn’t tell you that his wife has cancer.

'Princess Meghan'.....so funny. That woman ain't no princess...

A friend of mine worked in quite a ‘humble’ role for the RF at Windsor.She suffered a personal tragedy. The next day Philip came round innperson to offer sympathy, and more important, financial and professional help and support, which went on for several years. He took a personal interest in her bereaved grief, she spoke very kindly of him.

not bad for a racist, sexist xénophobe.

Shame on you. You are falling into the same trap of speaking only from reportage for which you berate others. So : Shame on you,

That is quite amazing on Philip's part.

DH, ex CPO, RN, thought that Philip walked on water. Nothing was too good for "his boys".

An example: he heard of a young Kiwi sailor on his own at Christmas in the UK, and sent a personal invitation to him to spend the festive season on the Sandringham estate. No fanfare, no paps.

Another: DH as a young rate was lined up with the rest of the 18 year old matelots along the walls of the reception room in honour of a visit by "Phil the Greek" as he was known. The formal party arrived, walked down the central walkway, and then, rather than going up the steps to the seating area, Philip turned left and walked down the line of young sailors, shaking hands and greeting them. The Boys were who mattered, and bugger the schedule. One can easily grasp why the lads worshipped the ground he walked on.

I don’t usually comment but…

re Meghan: forget articles in the Cut, Uvalde etc or the Oprah interview. She has been rebuked by a judge in the high court for misleading testimony. Serious. And whatever else, the Hollywood Reporter has 12 people on record to say she is a bully. And has defended this. Those two things alone would normally be a public death knell.

Re Kate: all this comparison between press coverage does not take in to account that Kate has given 10 years of loyal, discreet and professional service to the royal family. More if you include the 10 years dating. She has earned respect that wasn’t given to them
in the early days, even after they were married. I remember lots of work shy headlines. However she has proved committed to the causes she supports and has prioritised raising well balanced children!

As a personal bugbear- the wedding flower girl tights episode really irks me. Kate is made to seem like a stick in the mud for protocol, but if I had a toddler daughter, on the world stage, who might trip…..she sure as hell would be wearing tights to keep her privacy. Despite this, Kate still sent conciliatory flowers and is pilloried. I don’t get it.

Isn’t this the thread where Meghan’s been called a cunt, twice, and subject to stuff like “brings no benefit to the human race?” The off-the-wall stuff is absolutely not limited to Sussex supporters.

Look, I’ve no doubt there is a Sussex squad on the internet, though I don’t really know what or why they’re also called sugars. But what drives me potty is the assumption that anyone who remotely defends her is somehow part of a cabal or has been called here t defend her. There’s a huge middle ground of normal posters between the two extremes of pro and anti Sussex – that’s where I sit. I’m not new (though I do make change frequently), I was there in the Kate trenches defending her during the grim speculation over her whereabouts last year, I think I’m nuanced (and hilarious) on Meghan and Harry.

I predicted at the beginning of this thread it would descend into the same circular arguments and it has. Funnily, it’s always “Sussex supporters” blamed for the circular stuff and repeat arguments – someone up thread is blaming them for bringing up Prince Philip but the only reason the old goat was under discussion is because an anti-Meghan poster brought him up!

It takes two to tango and from the perspective of someone who’s in neither camp – genuinely neutral on the pair, come on the royal boards a lot but dip in and out -– the repeat themes, circular arguments, whataboutery, attacks, etc, come from both sides. The anti-Meghan camp loves to tone police to derail a thread and there’s a familiar way of posting (“Please don’t tell posters to X”, “A lot of new names here”,) and wilful mischaracterisation (gammon isn’t a racist term! It’s derailing to claim so); the pro-Meghan camp does tend to some mad, badly spelled ramblings and defending the indefensible. But let’s not pretend the madness on this thread is entirely one-sided when, again, Meghan has been called a cunt.