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With Love, Meghan - criticisms and genuine concern for her mental health

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Lavenderfarmcottage · 05/01/2025 16:34

I am probably going to be flogged for posting this and chased down the dark laneways of Mumsnet as bystanders yell “Shame Shame Shame”.

I weighed in yesterday about a thread on Meghan and her new Netflix show. I made some criticisms about the trailer and certain cliche’s in the way it was produced. Hypocritical of me to be posting this but I feel guilty and have reflected. I am actually looking forward to watching it on Netflix and my criticisms were pretty minor and not exclusive to her show - it’s a common issue I have.

Meghan has struggled with mental health because of criticism. The reaction to ‘With Love… Meghan’ has been fairly brutal.

I think it would be really good if we refrained from saying anything negative about the series or Meghan Markle. That’s not the point of this thread.

I want to know if you think the criticisms have gone too far. The Princess of Wales is not on the scene and we are protective of her rightly so. That leaves Meghan as media fodder though.

Do you think it’s time Meghan and Harry were given a break ? I do. I think we’ve been far too harsh and the criticisms have gotten out of hand.

I think we also forget the cultural relevance. If we went into the homes or Gwyneth, Julia Roberts etc and I would probably feel the divide too. American culture doesn’t apologise for wealth and hollywoood is highly competitive.

Having a confident demeanour, throwing your head back Julia Roberts style when you laugh and unapologetically selling $$$ vagina products like Gwyneth Paltrow is how it over there. People talk loudly and confidently and are polished and rehearsed especially in the
Competitive world of Hollywood…

Are we all being too hard ?

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Ireallymissmetime · 05/01/2025 22:20

ThatRareUmberJoker · 05/01/2025 21:28

They didn't start it it was the British press appealing to the British public and writing shit about them. You opened the door to them criticising you not the other way around.

Not sure what you mean by " you opened the door to them criticising you".. they obviously will never know me to criticise me.
I am just commenting on the fact that they made public some very personal facts about people many which subsequently proved inaccurate and others so unnecessary to share as they was just personal (eg. harry telling about his brothers circumcision, losing his virginity which ultimately outed the woman). As a result I feel very little sympathy for people being critical of meghans work which she actively publicises !

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 05/01/2025 22:25

Choccyscofffy · 05/01/2025 22:10

But he’s refusing to move out of the Royal Lodge, which is way too big for him.

I don't actually care where he lives.

SlapTheMelon · 05/01/2025 22:26

Oh no no no. This is the same woman who knew a 90 yo was dying and threatened to spill family secrets because she didn't sign NDA. Also same woman who allegedly bullied people left and right. I say fuck her mental health. You reap what you sow.

Frequency · 05/01/2025 22:30

SlapTheMelon · 05/01/2025 22:26

Oh no no no. This is the same woman who knew a 90 yo was dying and threatened to spill family secrets because she didn't sign NDA. Also same woman who allegedly bullied people left and right. I say fuck her mental health. You reap what you sow.

Why should she sign an NDA?

Can you imagine the AIBU if anyone posted that their MIL wanted them to sign a legal document vowing to never ever speak about their family outside of the family without prior permission?

I don't think the matriarch being elderly would have gained them any sympathy on such a thread.

RisingSunn · 05/01/2025 22:31

Rhaidimiddim · 05/01/2025 21:58

As I posted on another thread earlier today.

It is indeed like the days before Bouzey was outed and Catherine made her announcement.

A sugar rush of new names but familiar posting styles and strategies, all coincidental with MM's new venture. Can't believe we're doing the "what lies?" and "what she really meant when she said they were married three days before..." stuff again either.

You do realise this thread was on the trending topics list? So you may see posts from people that do not usually frequent this bizarre section of MN.

To say that MN posters are somehow tied to Meghan’s new venture is absolutely absurd.

I seriously think posters like yourself need to get a serious grip.

ThatRareUmberJoker · 05/01/2025 22:31

Ireallymissmetime · 05/01/2025 22:20

Not sure what you mean by " you opened the door to them criticising you".. they obviously will never know me to criticise me.
I am just commenting on the fact that they made public some very personal facts about people many which subsequently proved inaccurate and others so unnecessary to share as they was just personal (eg. harry telling about his brothers circumcision, losing his virginity which ultimately outed the woman). As a result I feel very little sympathy for people being critical of meghans work which she actively publicises !

You endorse the papers who write about them. You've bought their books and obviously watched them on TV. You're more of a fan than me I haven't bought any books or watched any programme or listened to them on Spotify. You're more curious than what I am.

SatansBobbleheadedDashboardOrnament · 05/01/2025 22:33

RisingSunn · 05/01/2025 22:31

You do realise this thread was on the trending topics list? So you may see posts from people that do not usually frequent this bizarre section of MN.

To say that MN posters are somehow tied to Meghan’s new venture is absolutely absurd.

I seriously think posters like yourself need to get a serious grip.

You are such a sweet, sweet PR.

Poppyseeds79 · 05/01/2025 22:33

AndThereSheGoes · 05/01/2025 22:07

@Choccyscofffy yes no argument there. Andrews whole life is being a royal. Because I suppose that's how it works if you are born into that family.

I think that's why Harry seems a bit lost. He's not done anything memorable since Invictus despite the fantastic education, money and contacts.

Maybe he could start painting RF portraits with his A level in Art.

Luddite26 · 05/01/2025 22:34

I felt a bit sorry for the Archbishop of Canterbury and baffled when she insisted their real wedding had happened 3 days before. But after recent events leading to his resignation it made me think did he? Who can you trust! 🤣

RisingSunn · 05/01/2025 22:35

SatansBobbleheadedDashboardOrnament · 05/01/2025 22:33

You are such a sweet, sweet PR.

I think you have lost the plot.

MummyJ12 · 05/01/2025 22:35

RisingSunn · 05/01/2025 22:31

You do realise this thread was on the trending topics list? So you may see posts from people that do not usually frequent this bizarre section of MN.

To say that MN posters are somehow tied to Meghan’s new venture is absolutely absurd.

I seriously think posters like yourself need to get a serious grip.

Or there could be other reasons, like MN are now thankfully aware of and trying their best with.
Please don’t get personal. Telling posters to get a grip makes you sound like you have nothing else constructive to add to the conversation.

ThatRareUmberJoker · 05/01/2025 22:37

Luddite26 · 05/01/2025 22:34

I felt a bit sorry for the Archbishop of Canterbury and baffled when she insisted their real wedding had happened 3 days before. But after recent events leading to his resignation it made me think did he? Who can you trust! 🤣

There's M&H truth, the archbishop's truth and then there is the truth. No one knows what the truth is apart from the three of them. You seem obsessed with when they got married.

RisingSunn · 05/01/2025 22:39

MummyJ12 · 05/01/2025 22:35

Or there could be other reasons, like MN are now thankfully aware of and trying their best with.
Please don’t get personal. Telling posters to get a grip makes you sound like you have nothing else constructive to add to the conversation.

Do not police my interactions.

Insinuating that regular MN posters are fake or part of Meghan’s PR is being constructive?

Luddite26 · 05/01/2025 22:40

ThatRareUmberJoker · 05/01/2025 22:37

There's M&H truth, the archbishop's truth and then there is the truth. No one knows what the truth is apart from the three of them. You seem obsessed with when they got married.

Do I? 🤣

ThatRareUmberJoker · 05/01/2025 22:42

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 05/01/2025 20:33

What are you talking about??!

Americans have to work for their money. They don't get benefits like in the UK and they have to pay for their healthcare. Saying Meghan didn't want to continue working didn't actually come from her mouth did it.

Tittat50 · 05/01/2025 22:42

RisingSunn · 05/01/2025 22:39

Do not police my interactions.

Insinuating that regular MN posters are fake or part of Meghan’s PR is being constructive?

I have to agree with RisingSunn entirely here. It's off the wall on this thread tbh.

Luddite26 · 05/01/2025 22:43

ThatRareUmberJoker · 05/01/2025 22:37

There's M&H truth, the archbishop's truth and then there is the truth. No one knows what the truth is apart from the three of them. You seem obsessed with when they got married.

I don't know whether any of them would know what the truth is if it slapped them in the face with a wet kipper.

wordler · 05/01/2025 22:44

I think a lot of us started off feeling very positively about Meghan marrying Harry but there is a point - different for different people - where you start actively disliking her actions and things she’s said then start to irritate you.

My journey went

What fun - the Suits actress is going to glam up the royals.

Fab 4 coined - love it, it’s going to be great for Kate and Meg to have each other in the middle of that weird family (!)

Wedding - gorgeous

Press sniping (bridesmaid dress, smelly chapel, Kate crying) - just the usual press drama nonsense take it with a pinch of salt

Odd communication blunders around Archie’s birth - that’s very odd but whatever

Leaving announcement - oh no the Fab 4 is done, shame but good for them for doing what’s best. Website was an odd mistake though.

Oprah interview - oh for god’s sake. Well that’s it for family relations!

Then I wasn’t really bothered by any of their puttering about until

Ulvade - and that was my wake up moment re Meghan - she used a terrible tragedy for a photo op and PR for herself. It was pretty disgusting. She had no connection to the town, wasn’t representing any official body and she hired a private jet and took a team of people with her to get photos of her posing in front of a child’s memorial after the shooting had just happened. The families hadn’t even visited the memorial at that point.

It was a horrendous lack of judgement.

ThatRareUmberJoker · 05/01/2025 22:44

Luddite26 · 05/01/2025 22:43

I don't know whether any of them would know what the truth is if it slapped them in the face with a wet kipper.

A man of God would lie

ThatRareUmberJoker · 05/01/2025 22:48

wordler · 05/01/2025 22:44

I think a lot of us started off feeling very positively about Meghan marrying Harry but there is a point - different for different people - where you start actively disliking her actions and things she’s said then start to irritate you.

My journey went

What fun - the Suits actress is going to glam up the royals.

Fab 4 coined - love it, it’s going to be great for Kate and Meg to have each other in the middle of that weird family (!)

Wedding - gorgeous

Press sniping (bridesmaid dress, smelly chapel, Kate crying) - just the usual press drama nonsense take it with a pinch of salt

Odd communication blunders around Archie’s birth - that’s very odd but whatever

Leaving announcement - oh no the Fab 4 is done, shame but good for them for doing what’s best. Website was an odd mistake though.

Oprah interview - oh for god’s sake. Well that’s it for family relations!

Then I wasn’t really bothered by any of their puttering about until

Ulvade - and that was my wake up moment re Meghan - she used a terrible tragedy for a photo op and PR for herself. It was pretty disgusting. She had no connection to the town, wasn’t representing any official body and she hired a private jet and took a team of people with her to get photos of her posing in front of a child’s memorial after the shooting had just happened. The families hadn’t even visited the memorial at that point.

It was a horrendous lack of judgement.

My partner said he couldn't wait for them to have their first child. Now it's a mixed heritage royal family.

wordler · 05/01/2025 22:50

ThatRareUmberJoker · 05/01/2025 22:48

My partner said he couldn't wait for them to have their first child. Now it's a mixed heritage royal family.

I thought it was going to be lovely watching William and Harry’s kids grow up together in the same way we watched all the previous generation grow up together.

MummyJ12 · 05/01/2025 22:51

RisingSunn · 05/01/2025 22:39

Do not police my interactions.

Insinuating that regular MN posters are fake or part of Meghan’s PR is being constructive?

Not policing anyone. But you’re absolutely not being constructive.

Luddite26 · 05/01/2025 22:51

ThatRareUmberJoker · 05/01/2025 22:44

A man of God would lie

Lie and cover up to suit his own ends don't you read the news.
And don't bother with shit like a man of God would lie? Nothing but a nest of abuse and coverups these organised religions.

RisingSunn · 05/01/2025 22:54

MummyJ12 · 05/01/2025 22:51

Not policing anyone. But you’re absolutely not being constructive.

Fortunately - You don’t get to decide that.

So I repeat. Those posters that are calling genuine MN posters Meghan’s PR or team - really need to get a serious grip.

It is absolutely ridiculous.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 05/01/2025 22:58

RisingSunn · 05/01/2025 22:31

You do realise this thread was on the trending topics list? So you may see posts from people that do not usually frequent this bizarre section of MN.

To say that MN posters are somehow tied to Meghan’s new venture is absolutely absurd.

I seriously think posters like yourself need to get a serious grip.

Do you? Why would that be?

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