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With Love, Meghan

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Atlasvue · 03/01/2025 21:48

Just setting up a thread for the release of the new cooking show, 15th January 2025

Reviews so far of the trailer, some very funny:

https://amp.theguardian.com/wellness/2025/jan/03/meghan-markle-netflix-show- Lefty paper not impressed. Trad wife.

https://www.standard.co.uk/going-out/foodanddrink/cook-meghan-markle-with-love-netflix-b1202861.html - Great read. Very very funny

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1995903/meghan-markle-netflix-series-cooking- Domestic bliss doesn’t sit with years of grievances.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2025/01/03/with-love-meghan-netflix-trailer-cringe-moments/ - Great read. Very very funny

https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/with-love-meghan-markle-netflix-barefoot-contessa-martha-stewart-b1202748.html - Meghan fan who has their doubts about a dated tv format.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14248119/amp/Now-Meghan-trad-wife-feminist-Duchess-rebranded-housewife-influencer-new-Netflix-cookery-vision-domestic-bliss.html - Feminist to Trad wife.

Will update with anymore reviews

Let them eat sponge cake: we watched Meghan Markle’s cooking show trailer so you don’t have to | Well actually | The Guardian

Who is this show for? Perhaps those drawn to trad wife aesthetics – or maybe just Netflix

https://amp.theguardian.com/wellness/2025/jan/03/meghan-markle-netflix-show

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Mylovelygreendress · 04/01/2025 22:27

TulipTiptoer · 04/01/2025 19:54

So you want everyone to agree with you.
Got it!

Have missed “ got it “ !

TulipTiptoer · 04/01/2025 22:39

Mylovelygreendress · 04/01/2025 22:27

Have missed “ got it “ !

What does that mean????

TemuRoyal · 04/01/2025 23:24

I haven’t got Netflix.

Wheresthebeach · 04/01/2025 23:35

Shame threads are being derailed again.

Rhaidimiddim · 04/01/2025 23:43

Wheresthebeach · 04/01/2025 23:35

Shame threads are being derailed again.

Just like old days.

Before Catherine's health announcement.

Just as M is launching a new venture.

Didn't happen for POLO.

itsstillmehere · 05/01/2025 01:14

EleanorBettyJackie · 04/01/2025 21:59

Vocal fry.

I have always found this funny - I never knew there was a name for it 😂😂

itsstillmehere · 05/01/2025 01:16

@Atlasvue

"Its bizarre

I’ve never noticed that about her before. I don’t think she’s as a professional communicator as people seem to think she is."

Maybe she has imposter syndrome 🤔

Wheresthebeach · 05/01/2025 01:39

Rhaidimiddim · 04/01/2025 23:43

Just like old days.

Before Catherine's health announcement.

Just as M is launching a new venture.

Didn't happen for POLO.

Yup. Exactly. Such a coincidence!

CurlewKate · 05/01/2025 06:41

It's not my sort of programme so I won't be watching. There are plenty of other things to watch. Very strange to spend time trawling the net for crap reviews!

IcedPurple · 05/01/2025 08:03

What is it with posters coming on just to say they find others 'very strange' or 'not normal'?

I just don't get it! I can't imagine doing wasting my time doing that sort of thing. Can someone explain? I'm genuinely trying to understand!

Likewhatever · 05/01/2025 08:07

IcedPurple · 05/01/2025 08:03

What is it with posters coming on just to say they find others 'very strange' or 'not normal'?

I just don't get it! I can't imagine doing wasting my time doing that sort of thing. Can someone explain? I'm genuinely trying to understand!

Derailing. And announcing their arrival to other members of the tag team. Game on!

MaggieMistletoe · 05/01/2025 08:27

Atlasvue · 04/01/2025 21:48

Talking about skilled presenting, I’ve never noticed this before. But from the trailer, she really struggles with eye contact.

There’s only strong eye contact with one male chef, when she talking to the crew and one female where there is slight eye contact but she’s sort of hiding her face.

With all other females, she’s constantly looking away, dipping her head, doing dances, clapping hands etc you don’t see her interacting and LOOKING at her guests. Now it’s just a trailer so its edited, but why would you edit all that human interaction out??

Its bizarre

I’ve never noticed that about her before. I don’t think she’s as a professional communicator as people seem to think she is.

It's because she is on the autistic spectrum IMO.

MaggieMistletoe · 05/01/2025 08:30

Baital · 04/01/2025 21:07

Yes, on the whole. People discussing their views on a TV trailer. It's a bit unusual that it's the RF board, but happens all the time on other boards.

MM has put herself out there with a show, people have an opinion. Like anyone else who presents a TV show. Personally I find Stacy Solomon mildly annoying. Love Louis Theroux, who other people will find irritating and mannered.

Very true.

And a good reminder that there are people on TV - like Stacy Solomon - who are even more painful to watch than Meghan Markle! The enduring popularity of SS is a sad reflection of the calibre of British viewers today.

Rhaidimiddim · 05/01/2025 10:54

itsstillmehere · 05/01/2025 01:16

@Atlasvue

"Its bizarre

I’ve never noticed that about her before. I don’t think she’s as a professional communicator as people seem to think she is."

Maybe she has imposter syndrome 🤔

Can you suffer from imposter syndrome if you actually are an imposter?

Rhaidimiddim · 05/01/2025 10:59

IcedPurple · 05/01/2025 08:03

What is it with posters coming on just to say they find others 'very strange' or 'not normal'?

I just don't get it! I can't imagine doing wasting my time doing that sort of thing. Can someone explain? I'm genuinely trying to understand!

One of my DD's, when little - if she was losing an argument with someone, she'd just announce "Well, you're Not Nice!" and walk away.

Similar phenomenon here but - unfortunately - without the walking away bit.

Atlasvue · 05/01/2025 10:59

Kathleen Stock, The Times
:

“And, third, has there ever been a person so obviously prone to ruthless control-freakery about every aspect of self-presentation, while purporting to be natural, candid and “real”, as Meghan?”

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IcedPurple · 05/01/2025 11:01

Rhaidimiddim · 05/01/2025 10:59

One of my DD's, when little - if she was losing an argument with someone, she'd just announce "Well, you're Not Nice!" and walk away.

Similar phenomenon here but - unfortunately - without the walking away bit.

Did she come back a while later with a brand new name?

Atlasvue · 05/01/2025 11:07

https://www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/inauthentic-moi-no-this-is-the-real-meghan-hvcngzr9p

  • Saying she is authentically being her inauthentic self

“With Love, Meghan looks to follow her usual recipe: an “authentic” snapshot of a glamorous and inspirational life, storyboarded to the nth degree and with nary a perfectly coiffed hair out of place.
An upbeat guitar track jangles as Meghan spoons unctuous substances into bowls, takes dainty sips from spoons, instructs fawning guests in remedial cooking skills and sticks labels on jam jars. The viewer has to imaginatively supplement the scores of kitchen assistants hovering anxiously just off screen.
“We are not in the pursuit of perfection,” says our relatable home cook as a small splash of lemon juice escapes obediently from her citrus squeezer and she emits a high-pitched gasp. Harry pops up briefly in a bit part at the end, furnishing a well-practised spontaneous-looking cuddle.
Overlaid graphics tell us, somewhat ambitiously: “Everybody’s invited to create wonder in every moment”. As I watched the trailer, I mostly wondered whether this latest collaboration between the Sussexes and Netflix would finally grant us merciful release from the ideal of “authenticity” as represented on screen — a fantasy that seems to have bewitched the viewing public for several decades. For one thing, the show’s prettily folksy food content is about as hackneyed as it gets, replicated on thousands of Instagram accounts elsewhere already. Second, not her kitchen. And, third, has there ever been a person so obviously prone to ruthless control-freakery about every aspect of self-presentation, while purporting to be natural, candid and “real”, as Meghan?
References to authenticity are an insistent motif throughout her brand. Her biographers Carolyn Durand and Omid Scobie tell us in their book Finding Freedom that “most important to Harry, Meghan came across as authentic … He felt as though he was getting the real Meghan from day one.” When last year the duchess revealed the name of her new lifestyle brand, American Riviera Orchard — a name so random you might have confused it with a what3words location tag — an insider was quoted as saying it was “perfect” and “authentic to her”.
Over on Instagram she has just reactivated her account: a trusted source says she will “authentically share moments of joy and inspiration from her life”. True to upside-down Meghan-world form, the first video post features its barefoot heroine on a beach, dressed all in white and jogging self-consciously along in a way that won’t mess up her hair before leaning down to write “2025” carefully with her finger in the sand. Prussian military manoeuvres have looked less planned.
Yet I suppose there is a sense in which the duchess indeed may be giving us authenticity. Certainly, her new show seems of a piece with earlier ventures. Before meeting her future husband, way back in 2014 she set up a lifestyle website called The Tig to complement her acting career; according to Durand and Scobie it was “polished and optimistic” and focused on “food, fashion and travel” as well as “social issues such as gender equality”.
On its pages, they recount, you might find such completely natural outdoor scenes as “Meghan walking a rugged coastline in a perfectly belted camel coat”. Later, during the pair’s courtship, the authors treat the reader to such unprompted romantic moments as when Meghan “whipped up her signature roast chicken for the prince sitting in her sleek all-white chef’s kitchen” while her “sweet dogs ran underfoot”. Even granting room for hagiographical gush, one gets a sense that in the actress’s head back then, cameras were permanently rolling in service of a future possible rom-com.
Whatever the truth of the person behind the self-composure and inspirational quotes, we can only hope that the charade of With Love, Meghan sounds the death knell for “structured reality shows”, “unscripted dramas” and other such contradictions. Millions of hours of human life, mine included, have been wasted on sitting slack-jawed in front of these things. When other such programmes purport to provide a glimpse behind the curtain into someone’s “real life”, there is, at least usually, a lot of vaguely exciting melodrama to keep us distracted from the fact that each scene was designed by a committee and brutally pruned afterwards into an even more distorted shape. But clearly, by virtue of their sort-of-royal-but-not-quite status, the Sussexes feel they have to maintain some kind of dignity; and so we aren’t allowed to see them screaming at each other after too many Whispering Angels at a Montecito baby shower, or to watch with glorious schadenfreude as Meghan’s towering croquembouche for Harry’s birthday slowly topples over and gets eaten by the dog.
Instead, we get repressed and frankly very boring content, whose pretensions to be perfectly open with the viewer only add insult to injury. Which is ultimately marvellous, because it allows us to fully take in the artifice of what we are watching. As in the film A Clockwork Orange, we should all be made to watch With Love, Meghan on a loop with our eyelids clamped open, and then never watch another so-called reality show again.”

Inauthentic, moi? No, this is the real Meghan

Kathleen Stock: The Duchess of Sussex’s new Netflix show is a monument to ruthless control freakery

https://www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/inauthentic-moi-no-this-is-the-real-meghan-hvcngzr9p

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Atlasvue · 05/01/2025 11:10

Kathleen Stock:

”Even granting room for hagiographical gush, one gets a sense that in the actress’s head back then, cameras were permanently rolling in service of a future possible rom-com.”

Remember in The CUT, when the writer Allison Davis said meghan had a tiny Bachelor producer in her ear?

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smilesy · 05/01/2025 11:22

Instead, we get repressed and frankly very boring content

I think this is one of the biggest problems they have. They are just not very interesting apart from their Royal connection. They don’t seem to have any original ideas (which is actually very difficult, most things have already been done) and together with this they have no sense of humour. They have no real gravitas but they also lack the levity that can compensate for this. And they really don’t seem to comprehend that everyone else finds what they produce a bit dull

Lndnmummy · 05/01/2025 11:34

Atlasvue · 05/01/2025 11:07

https://www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/inauthentic-moi-no-this-is-the-real-meghan-hvcngzr9p

  • Saying she is authentically being her inauthentic self

“With Love, Meghan looks to follow her usual recipe: an “authentic” snapshot of a glamorous and inspirational life, storyboarded to the nth degree and with nary a perfectly coiffed hair out of place.
An upbeat guitar track jangles as Meghan spoons unctuous substances into bowls, takes dainty sips from spoons, instructs fawning guests in remedial cooking skills and sticks labels on jam jars. The viewer has to imaginatively supplement the scores of kitchen assistants hovering anxiously just off screen.
“We are not in the pursuit of perfection,” says our relatable home cook as a small splash of lemon juice escapes obediently from her citrus squeezer and she emits a high-pitched gasp. Harry pops up briefly in a bit part at the end, furnishing a well-practised spontaneous-looking cuddle.
Overlaid graphics tell us, somewhat ambitiously: “Everybody’s invited to create wonder in every moment”. As I watched the trailer, I mostly wondered whether this latest collaboration between the Sussexes and Netflix would finally grant us merciful release from the ideal of “authenticity” as represented on screen — a fantasy that seems to have bewitched the viewing public for several decades. For one thing, the show’s prettily folksy food content is about as hackneyed as it gets, replicated on thousands of Instagram accounts elsewhere already. Second, not her kitchen. And, third, has there ever been a person so obviously prone to ruthless control-freakery about every aspect of self-presentation, while purporting to be natural, candid and “real”, as Meghan?
References to authenticity are an insistent motif throughout her brand. Her biographers Carolyn Durand and Omid Scobie tell us in their book Finding Freedom that “most important to Harry, Meghan came across as authentic … He felt as though he was getting the real Meghan from day one.” When last year the duchess revealed the name of her new lifestyle brand, American Riviera Orchard — a name so random you might have confused it with a what3words location tag — an insider was quoted as saying it was “perfect” and “authentic to her”.
Over on Instagram she has just reactivated her account: a trusted source says she will “authentically share moments of joy and inspiration from her life”. True to upside-down Meghan-world form, the first video post features its barefoot heroine on a beach, dressed all in white and jogging self-consciously along in a way that won’t mess up her hair before leaning down to write “2025” carefully with her finger in the sand. Prussian military manoeuvres have looked less planned.
Yet I suppose there is a sense in which the duchess indeed may be giving us authenticity. Certainly, her new show seems of a piece with earlier ventures. Before meeting her future husband, way back in 2014 she set up a lifestyle website called The Tig to complement her acting career; according to Durand and Scobie it was “polished and optimistic” and focused on “food, fashion and travel” as well as “social issues such as gender equality”.
On its pages, they recount, you might find such completely natural outdoor scenes as “Meghan walking a rugged coastline in a perfectly belted camel coat”. Later, during the pair’s courtship, the authors treat the reader to such unprompted romantic moments as when Meghan “whipped up her signature roast chicken for the prince sitting in her sleek all-white chef’s kitchen” while her “sweet dogs ran underfoot”. Even granting room for hagiographical gush, one gets a sense that in the actress’s head back then, cameras were permanently rolling in service of a future possible rom-com.
Whatever the truth of the person behind the self-composure and inspirational quotes, we can only hope that the charade of With Love, Meghan sounds the death knell for “structured reality shows”, “unscripted dramas” and other such contradictions. Millions of hours of human life, mine included, have been wasted on sitting slack-jawed in front of these things. When other such programmes purport to provide a glimpse behind the curtain into someone’s “real life”, there is, at least usually, a lot of vaguely exciting melodrama to keep us distracted from the fact that each scene was designed by a committee and brutally pruned afterwards into an even more distorted shape. But clearly, by virtue of their sort-of-royal-but-not-quite status, the Sussexes feel they have to maintain some kind of dignity; and so we aren’t allowed to see them screaming at each other after too many Whispering Angels at a Montecito baby shower, or to watch with glorious schadenfreude as Meghan’s towering croquembouche for Harry’s birthday slowly topples over and gets eaten by the dog.
Instead, we get repressed and frankly very boring content, whose pretensions to be perfectly open with the viewer only add insult to injury. Which is ultimately marvellous, because it allows us to fully take in the artifice of what we are watching. As in the film A Clockwork Orange, we should all be made to watch With Love, Meghan on a loop with our eyelids clamped open, and then never watch another so-called reality show again.”

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So this is the exact type of thing I was referring to. And as far as I am aware, I am on my own here. No tag teaming of any kind. No name change either, again do feel free to check that with MNHQ.

Anyway, why would an adult go to the lengths as above for someone you you have such disdain for? Isn't it enough to gasp and pearl clutch in your own home? Why is the need to feed this frenzy, national hate of this woman whom you have never met. Who has done nothing to you?

Lndnmummy · 05/01/2025 11:37

smilesy · 05/01/2025 11:22

Instead, we get repressed and frankly very boring content

I think this is one of the biggest problems they have. They are just not very interesting apart from their Royal connection. They don’t seem to have any original ideas (which is actually very difficult, most things have already been done) and together with this they have no sense of humour. They have no real gravitas but they also lack the levity that can compensate for this. And they really don’t seem to comprehend that everyone else finds what they produce a bit dull

But do they though? Find it dull? Dull would not be creating this endless frenzy and blood frothing at their every move. If people really thought they were dull they would just leave them to it and carry on with the sainsburys shop, surely?

This is something else. It is hate. Venom. Bullying and Vindication. It is relentless. It is abhorrent. And deeply disturbing. And yes, racist. To the core.

Atlasvue · 05/01/2025 11:38

GREY. ROCK. 🪨

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EleanorBettyJackie · 05/01/2025 11:40

Atlasvue · 05/01/2025 11:10

Kathleen Stock:

”Even granting room for hagiographical gush, one gets a sense that in the actress’s head back then, cameras were permanently rolling in service of a future possible rom-com.”

Remember in The CUT, when the writer Allison Davis said meghan had a tiny Bachelor producer in her ear?

It's been said a number of times. She's just a bunch of movie tropes being acted out. The cool girl, the nerd girl turned prom queen, She-Ra, Ella Enchanted, Pretty Woman, Spencer.There's nothing authentic about her, which is why she needs to keep using the word, "authentic" at every opportunity. And we will see more of this bullshit once Scobie's new project comes to fruition, which basically sounds like Meghan Markle's life at KP through her distorted and mendacious lens.

Love that someone like Kathleen Stock, a philosopher and feminist and a truly brave and principled woman, is writing about this: nobody can accuse her of being a royalist, tabloid hack.

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