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Both Harry and Tyler talking about H&Ms marriage. Why?

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Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 09:57

Please note, this thread is to discuss the rumours surrounding Harry and Meghans marriage. For those posters who don’t like to speculate, this thread isnt for you.
Now with Harry discussing his marriage in public, on stage with the worlds media watching, then it’s fair comment to discuss such issues.

To my point! Why did both Harry and Tyler allow questions about the marriage and why did they both talk?

There’s always rumours about H&M, that’s nothing new. In these interviews that are requested, possible questions are talked about beforehand with their teams and anything off limits will be strictly outlined. Many celebs will have a strict policy on not discussing certain issues. It’s why we will never see Tom Cruise getting asked about Suri etc

So why oh why, was questions about their marriage/rumours allowed?

So at the Dealbook conference Harry was asked a question about H&M suddenly doing their events separately. Indeed, Harry’s appearance at Dealbook was a surprise when he was slated to appear at Tyler Perrys award months ago.

Question:

There's articles left and right about, you know, 'Why are you doing independent events? Why aren't you doing them together?'" Sorkin said. "Is that a good thing for you, in a way, that there's so much interest in you?"

Harry reflected that the media speculation is "definitely not a good thing," adding: "We've apparently divorced maybe 10, 12 times as well. So, it's just like, what?"

So Harry and his team allowed a question about the rumours of their separation and thrn Harry took it even further by actually talking about divorce rumours, when the interviewer said no such thing.

Theres rumours all the time about their marriage. Remember last year when the Sun had an article that he had a hotel room on standby at a nearby hotel? He didn’t come out then and talk about those rumours. Yet, talk of their separation seems to have upset them this time that they’ve felt the need to talk about it. This wouldn’t have been done without Meghan approval either

Which brings me to Tyler. He gave an exclusive interview to E! Where he again, talks about Harry and Meghan relationship:

"They love each other," Tyler told E! News at the Paley Honors Fall Gala, where he was honored with the prestigious Paley Honors award. "They have a beautiful family and I just want the best for them."

Tyler giving an exclusive interview would not have allowed a question on the couple unless it had been ok’d. What we don’t see in the E! Article is what question he was asked to give that somewhat odd reply. Was he asked if they’ve split? Was he asked why Harry didn’t appear with Meghan? Who knows! But it must have been a something questioning their relationship to give out an answer like that. A answer which makes the relationship look like it’s in trouble by saying he wants the best for them. Why did he allow that question in an exclusive interview?

I think it’s because M&H have been rattled by the rumours and annoyed that people have picked up upon him bailing from the Tyler Perry awards and not having been pictured with his wife in months. So they’ve allowed these questions to try and bat away the rumours.

But Tyler saying they love each other and he wants the best for them is hardly a ringing endorsement, it actually sounds more like he’s rooting for them to pull through.

Harry never shuts down the split rumours either, he just laments the press (even though it isn’t the press) for stating he’s been divorced 10/12 times. He doesn’t actually say something like- yes, we’re really focusing on our individual projects right now, busy trying to get as much done as possible and separating projects has allowed us to do that. But rumours about a marriage split are completely wrong and untrue.

So H&M PR have told them to quash the rumours this week, because it looks like they were rattled. Which only leads you then to think, that it’s probably true. They probably are going through something right now.

You don’t make your whole brand about your partnership, then suddenly start doing separate projects and not being seen together in public. Something has gone wrong in the previous approach for them to come up with the conclusion that they can’t be seen together. That he won’t be seen with his wife.

My feelings are that they are taking time out and a step back from the intensity of the last few years. Not necessarily a spilt, but they in their personal lives as well as professional, are trying to work out who they are and what’s their direction. They became enmeshed with each other and that isn’t healthy. They’ve relied on each other too much because both have abandoned their families. It’s not really all that surprising when we know the couple have struggled with poor mental health. It was only 5 years ago meghan was having suicidal thoughts and Harry’s troubles are well known.

So all these rumours have hid a nerve I’d say. I think they really need to step away from the limelight and retreat. Because it looks like it’s going to cost them their relationship.

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Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 13:16

Reverence · 07/12/2024 13:15

How do we report a thread from the app?

With the report button

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 07/12/2024 13:17

I'm not sure, Reverence but someone will know. OP might know, OP?

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 13:17

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 07/12/2024 13:16

There's gossip and there's gossip, isn't' there? The state of other people's marriages is not it.

Very much is

JLo and Ben rumours were around in spring and by summer they were split. It was all over the papers. It’s gossip. It’s how they keep their name in the headlines

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Extiainoiapeial · 07/12/2024 13:18

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 13:15

I wonder why, Harry and Meghan divorce rumours hurt so badly for some?

Its not as if Harry and Meghan read about themselves….Harry told us so just the other day.

It doesn't 'hurt badly'.

I would feel the same about anyone famous even if I couldn't stand them. A couple with little ones having their marriage pulled apart with a glee in the hope that it actually fails is nasty.

Do you love gossiping about people's marriages in real life too?

BeckyAMumsnet · 07/12/2024 13:18

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Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 13:19

Extiainoiapeial · 07/12/2024 13:18

It doesn't 'hurt badly'.

I would feel the same about anyone famous even if I couldn't stand them. A couple with little ones having their marriage pulled apart with a glee in the hope that it actually fails is nasty.

Do you love gossiping about people's marriages in real life too?

It clearly does hurt

Lots of posters very upset. Using all sorts of words such as nasty, creepy and threatening to report

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 07/12/2024 13:19

No, other people's marriages are their own business. The fact that you think it is gossip is a bit sad really but, if that's your 'thing'?

I remember the days when celebrities were revered for actual talent, not this. Dumbed down and then some.

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 13:20

Thank you MN

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FloofPaws · 07/12/2024 13:21

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 07/12/2024 13:19

No, other people's marriages are their own business. The fact that you think it is gossip is a bit sad really but, if that's your 'thing'?

I remember the days when celebrities were revered for actual talent, not this. Dumbed down and then some.

The fact though is neither of them have any talent

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 13:21

You may revere celebrities@LyingWitchInTheWardrobe , I never have.

I’ll save that for people with real jobs

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TurtlesDoNotPetsMake · 07/12/2024 13:21

What's wrong with discussing the rumours? Don't see why the op is getting such a hard time.

Extiainoiapeial · 07/12/2024 13:22

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 13:19

It clearly does hurt

Lots of posters very upset. Using all sorts of words such as nasty, creepy and threatening to report

You really must stop this, you're cracking me up. 🤣😂🤣😂 Do you honestly think I am 'very upset'... really, no!!!
You don't seem to read posts. I dislike speculation about ANYONE'S marriage, especially if they have young children, and even if it's some famous person or celebrity I don't particularly like.
That doesn't make me 'very upset'

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 07/12/2024 13:22

FloofPaws · 07/12/2024 13:21

The fact though is neither of them have any talent

I wouldn't disagree with you, there's lots of people with no talent. Their marriages are not my business though.

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 07/12/2024 13:23

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 07/12/2024 13:19

No, other people's marriages are their own business. The fact that you think it is gossip is a bit sad really but, if that's your 'thing'?

I remember the days when celebrities were revered for actual talent, not this. Dumbed down and then some.

I mean, no offence to you, but I wouldn’t say Harry and Meghan are known for their talent 🤣 And Harry did spill a lot of information about his family’s personal life…almost like gossiping?

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 13:25

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 07/12/2024 13:23

I mean, no offence to you, but I wouldn’t say Harry and Meghan are known for their talent 🤣 And Harry did spill a lot of information about his family’s personal life…almost like gossiping?

I know! I’m not even getting paid for it like he did! 😂

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WinterCrow · 07/12/2024 13:25

Please could everyone pay some heed to the post at 13.18 from @BeckyAMumsnet?

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 07/12/2024 13:26

I think Princess Anne is pretty nifty on a horse? Sophie is very good at organising, apparently? These are talents in their own right.

I can't think of any other familial talents there, PrettyFly?

FloofPaws · 07/12/2024 13:26

Harry opened the door re speculation on their marriage IMO. I've wondered for a while if PH has even been home for many months ... I don't know but I'd expect to see some nonsense in their favourite go to PR rag they phone up for any over exposure about themselves ...Harry's home after tirelessly working for months etc on his faded and tarnished image
Meghan seems to be flaunting herself as usual, I did wonder if she's trying to hook up with Tyler Perry too ... who knows 🤦🏼‍♀️

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 13:27

Anyways

Between what Tyler and Harry have said, it’s just highlighted the rumour even more.

The sun article last year that he had a hotel room elsewhere, he never came out about the rumours.

why now?

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FloofPaws · 07/12/2024 13:28

TurtlesDoNotPetsMake · 07/12/2024 13:21

What's wrong with discussing the rumours? Don't see why the op is getting such a hard time.

Nothing at all! It's just a few SS esque people trying to shut down discussions by being rude to people

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 13:28

Yeh, the only things that place him at home were the two videos he done (he was wearing a poppy) so was a while ago.

But that could have just have been him visiting

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PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 07/12/2024 13:31

Another problem that Harry and Meghan have created for themselves is choosing to ignore the ‘never complain, never explain’ policy. Obviously they decided it was important to have their voice heard and they are known to be quite litigious. So the times they choose not to squash rumours (ie Harry highlighting divorce rumours but not calling it out as rubbish) makes it look like it is true. So their early brashness at being eager to have their voice heard has come back to bite them on the arse.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 07/12/2024 13:33

I guess they’ve mentioned it because it’s been doing the rounds on social media a lot for the best part of a year. There’s been some “real” media hints, but the fact they are definitely splitting up has been discussed for months online.

refusing to address rumours is taken as fact it’s true, so there comes a point when you need to say “this is nonsense”.

it’s interesting that the narrative has switched to them being the next Will and Jada Smith, so them not divorcing stops being evidence that the rumours of a split is untrue.

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 13:33

Great point@PrettyFlyforaMaiTai

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FloofPaws · 07/12/2024 13:35

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 07/12/2024 13:26

I think Princess Anne is pretty nifty on a horse? Sophie is very good at organising, apparently? These are talents in their own right.

I can't think of any other familial talents there, PrettyFly?

Zara and horse riding
KC and Wills both very good polo players - far better than 'the spare'
Kate - photography ... photoshop perhaps not so much 😉
Mike - rugby
Lots of talented people in the RF

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