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Both Harry and Tyler talking about H&Ms marriage. Why?

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Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 09:57

Please note, this thread is to discuss the rumours surrounding Harry and Meghans marriage. For those posters who don’t like to speculate, this thread isnt for you.
Now with Harry discussing his marriage in public, on stage with the worlds media watching, then it’s fair comment to discuss such issues.

To my point! Why did both Harry and Tyler allow questions about the marriage and why did they both talk?

There’s always rumours about H&M, that’s nothing new. In these interviews that are requested, possible questions are talked about beforehand with their teams and anything off limits will be strictly outlined. Many celebs will have a strict policy on not discussing certain issues. It’s why we will never see Tom Cruise getting asked about Suri etc

So why oh why, was questions about their marriage/rumours allowed?

So at the Dealbook conference Harry was asked a question about H&M suddenly doing their events separately. Indeed, Harry’s appearance at Dealbook was a surprise when he was slated to appear at Tyler Perrys award months ago.

Question:

There's articles left and right about, you know, 'Why are you doing independent events? Why aren't you doing them together?'" Sorkin said. "Is that a good thing for you, in a way, that there's so much interest in you?"

Harry reflected that the media speculation is "definitely not a good thing," adding: "We've apparently divorced maybe 10, 12 times as well. So, it's just like, what?"

So Harry and his team allowed a question about the rumours of their separation and thrn Harry took it even further by actually talking about divorce rumours, when the interviewer said no such thing.

Theres rumours all the time about their marriage. Remember last year when the Sun had an article that he had a hotel room on standby at a nearby hotel? He didn’t come out then and talk about those rumours. Yet, talk of their separation seems to have upset them this time that they’ve felt the need to talk about it. This wouldn’t have been done without Meghan approval either

Which brings me to Tyler. He gave an exclusive interview to E! Where he again, talks about Harry and Meghan relationship:

"They love each other," Tyler told E! News at the Paley Honors Fall Gala, where he was honored with the prestigious Paley Honors award. "They have a beautiful family and I just want the best for them."

Tyler giving an exclusive interview would not have allowed a question on the couple unless it had been ok’d. What we don’t see in the E! Article is what question he was asked to give that somewhat odd reply. Was he asked if they’ve split? Was he asked why Harry didn’t appear with Meghan? Who knows! But it must have been a something questioning their relationship to give out an answer like that. A answer which makes the relationship look like it’s in trouble by saying he wants the best for them. Why did he allow that question in an exclusive interview?

I think it’s because M&H have been rattled by the rumours and annoyed that people have picked up upon him bailing from the Tyler Perry awards and not having been pictured with his wife in months. So they’ve allowed these questions to try and bat away the rumours.

But Tyler saying they love each other and he wants the best for them is hardly a ringing endorsement, it actually sounds more like he’s rooting for them to pull through.

Harry never shuts down the split rumours either, he just laments the press (even though it isn’t the press) for stating he’s been divorced 10/12 times. He doesn’t actually say something like- yes, we’re really focusing on our individual projects right now, busy trying to get as much done as possible and separating projects has allowed us to do that. But rumours about a marriage split are completely wrong and untrue.

So H&M PR have told them to quash the rumours this week, because it looks like they were rattled. Which only leads you then to think, that it’s probably true. They probably are going through something right now.

You don’t make your whole brand about your partnership, then suddenly start doing separate projects and not being seen together in public. Something has gone wrong in the previous approach for them to come up with the conclusion that they can’t be seen together. That he won’t be seen with his wife.

My feelings are that they are taking time out and a step back from the intensity of the last few years. Not necessarily a spilt, but they in their personal lives as well as professional, are trying to work out who they are and what’s their direction. They became enmeshed with each other and that isn’t healthy. They’ve relied on each other too much because both have abandoned their families. It’s not really all that surprising when we know the couple have struggled with poor mental health. It was only 5 years ago meghan was having suicidal thoughts and Harry’s troubles are well known.

So all these rumours have hid a nerve I’d say. I think they really need to step away from the limelight and retreat. Because it looks like it’s going to cost them their relationship.

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Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 14:29

Yes@cavea

He seemed vexed about the issue.

If things were fine, why react like that. Hit a nerve I think

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IcedPurple · 07/12/2024 14:30

EdithWeston · 07/12/2024 14:17

Because it’s tasteless, and because it’s not based on evidence.

The professional separation can be evidenced, but there are compelling business reasons for that.

The soundness of the marriage is just rumour, because it’s something the public doesn’t see. Speculation on it has not reached the depths of the Sussex Squad and what they were inventing about the Wales family earlier this year. But it’s not a race to the bottom, and just because another group did far worse, it does not follow that this is OK

The professional separation can be evidenced, but there are compelling business reasons for that.

But neither of them has a 'profession'.

And as others have pointed out, just because a husband and wife work in different jobs, as the vast majority do, it doesn't mean they are never seen together. I don't buy the 'making sure one of them is with the children at all times' line, because as I said above, they've been happy to leave the children on another continent since they were babies.

When a high profile couple go from being almost inseparable to publicly saying they're not going to be seen together, then yes people are going to speculate. If you'd prefer not to, that's fine. Other threads are available.

FlabbergastedByTheGorgons · 07/12/2024 14:30

The reality is, there are rumours. Harry alluded to them. People are allowed to talk about the rumours even if it's to dismiss them.

I do think they made a misstep by setting up their whole brand as being a pair. Archewell is a joint endeavour; it didn't need to be. All those joint interviews. It makes it quite stark when they do things alone. Meghan needed Harry in the beginning, because the only thing that made people pay attention to her was him and his royal status, so I can see why she insisted on being included in everything.

Baital · 07/12/2024 14:32

Well, Harry didn't just talk about his marriage, he was dismissive about the marriages of his family members. Hand M had married for love, unlike other members of his family, and they were able to work side by side, unlike other members of his family.

That encouraged speculation about the state of those marriages, who he was referring to etc.

So, it is a bit hypocritical to then take offence when there is speculation about his own marriage.

FlabbergastedByTheGorgons · 07/12/2024 14:33

@Baital really good point.

IcedPurple · 07/12/2024 14:33

FlabbergastedByTheGorgons · 07/12/2024 14:30

The reality is, there are rumours. Harry alluded to them. People are allowed to talk about the rumours even if it's to dismiss them.

I do think they made a misstep by setting up their whole brand as being a pair. Archewell is a joint endeavour; it didn't need to be. All those joint interviews. It makes it quite stark when they do things alone. Meghan needed Harry in the beginning, because the only thing that made people pay attention to her was him and his royal status, so I can see why she insisted on being included in everything.

I agree.

I think they should have separated their 'brands' 4 years ago. It's probably too late now. All this 'couples' stuff was a bit cringey, and it's going to be hard to roll it back now.

MayaKovskaya · 07/12/2024 14:35

Their whole modus vivendi has been about what an amazing couple they are. Salt and pepper moving together, marrying for love (not like William!) a tree trunk entwined. They constantly held hands, constantly appeared together.
Now? Not so much.

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 14:36

Exactly @Baital

Now it turns out he can’t work alongside Meghan and there’s rumours about their marriage.

And only a couple of years after he stated that about his family in the docu

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cavea · 07/12/2024 14:36

Baital · 07/12/2024 14:32

Well, Harry didn't just talk about his marriage, he was dismissive about the marriages of his family members. Hand M had married for love, unlike other members of his family, and they were able to work side by side, unlike other members of his family.

That encouraged speculation about the state of those marriages, who he was referring to etc.

So, it is a bit hypocritical to then take offence when there is speculation about his own marriage.

This is spot on.

These are the things they do which totally undermine their protests at being the subject of SM rumours, In fact you could say Harry and Meghan are two of the most public trolls in recent times.

MayaKovskaya · 07/12/2024 14:36

IcedPurple · 07/12/2024 14:33

I agree.

I think they should have separated their 'brands' 4 years ago. It's probably too late now. All this 'couples' stuff was a bit cringey, and it's going to be hard to roll it back now.

I agree with you. It all got so cringeworthy. It wasn't a wise marketing strategy.
Perhaps they have found another one?.

WinterCrow · 07/12/2024 14:37

Who are the people who claim that H&M have been 'divorced maybe 10, 12 times'? Do they really exist?

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 14:40

I can imagine he is doing all sorts of therapies….something must have been triggered in him that he has sought independence.

It feels like it’s coming from him. this distinct separation.

I think he’s a bit moody and Meghan feels like she has to go along with it. Hence the new glamour look on the red carpet. She doesn’t do royal regal anymore. Lots of flesh, teeth and hair. Maybe trying to show him she’s still got it

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cavea · 07/12/2024 14:41

WinterCrow · 07/12/2024 14:37

Who are the people who claim that H&M have been 'divorced maybe 10, 12 times'? Do they really exist?

Actually thats a good point, there is speculation they have been living apart, are separated, heading FOR a divorce, but don't think it has ever been said they ARE divorced.

Harry making up his own shite again.

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 14:41

WinterCrow · 07/12/2024 14:37

Who are the people who claim that H&M have been 'divorced maybe 10, 12 times'? Do they really exist?

Of course not. It’s Harry and more of his misinformation

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MayaKovskaya · 07/12/2024 14:44

Yes, they have to constantly stoke the flames of martyrdom!

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 14:44

Because Meghans new sexy red carpet look coincides with the work/social separation timeline. Another bit of evidence me thinks

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IcedPurple · 07/12/2024 14:45

MayaKovskaya · 07/12/2024 14:36

I agree with you. It all got so cringeworthy. It wasn't a wise marketing strategy.
Perhaps they have found another one?.

I think their moment has passed to be honest.

They were big news and in great demand 4 years ago. Now, not so much.

That's why they should have tried to build up individual 'post royal' brands back when they were still a hot property. But now I think that ship has sailed.

MayaKovskaya · 07/12/2024 14:46

Was that where she was walking through a garage in an evening dress?
It's all got very odd.

Reddog1 · 07/12/2024 14:46

They look foolish because Harry would always claim that he married for true love, that he knew Meghan was a keeper very quickly, unlike William who (allegedly) looked around at various aristos in his twenties and settled for reliable Kate because none of those women were keen to be his wife but Kate and Ma Middleton were gagging for a proposal.

That video with W and K frolicking in the woods must’ve really stuck in their throats.

Manypaws · 07/12/2024 14:47

Baital · 07/12/2024 14:32

Well, Harry didn't just talk about his marriage, he was dismissive about the marriages of his family members. Hand M had married for love, unlike other members of his family, and they were able to work side by side, unlike other members of his family.

That encouraged speculation about the state of those marriages, who he was referring to etc.

So, it is a bit hypocritical to then take offence when there is speculation about his own marriage.

This

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 14:47

Also People magazine, that never used to allow comments on Meghan an Harry articles for years and years- also started allowing comments at the same time that this work/social separation began.
We know that People is a mouthpiece for H&M, so why allow comments suddenly now at the exact time as this split in diaries/time

All these things started happening around mid October.

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XmasNameChangeFail · 07/12/2024 14:49

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Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 14:51

I’ll add ‘unhinged’ to the nice things the super fans have said along with; nasty, creepy, tasteless, race to the bottom, twattery and dim.

What lovely manners they have.

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Samcro · 07/12/2024 14:57

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Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 15:01

Again we have the word ‘nasty’ used by the super fans

Interesting that the rest of us never seem to use such language, but we are the ones called out?

Rather hypocritical

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