Both Harry and Tyler talking about H&Ms marriage. Why?

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Please note, this thread is to discuss the rumours surrounding Harry and Meghans marriage. For those posters who don’t like to speculate, this thread isnt for you.
Now with Harry discussing his marriage in public, on stage with the worlds media watching, then it’s fair comment to discuss such issues.

To my point! Why did both Harry and Tyler allow questions about the marriage and why did they both talk?

There’s always rumours about H&M, that’s nothing new. In these interviews that are requested, possible questions are talked about beforehand with their teams and anything off limits will be strictly outlined. Many celebs will have a strict policy on not discussing certain issues. It’s why we will never see Tom Cruise getting asked about Suri etc

So why oh why, was questions about their marriage/rumours allowed?

So at the Dealbook conference Harry was asked a question about H&M suddenly doing their events separately. Indeed, Harry’s appearance at Dealbook was a surprise when he was slated to appear at Tyler Perrys award months ago.

Question:

There's articles left and right about, you know, 'Why are you doing independent events? Why aren't you doing them together?'" Sorkin said. "Is that a good thing for you, in a way, that there's so much interest in you?"

Harry reflected that the media speculation is "definitely not a good thing," adding: "We've apparently divorced maybe 10, 12 times as well. So, it's just like, what?"

So Harry and his team allowed a question about the rumours of their separation and thrn Harry took it even further by actually talking about divorce rumours, when the interviewer said no such thing.

Theres rumours all the time about their marriage. Remember last year when the Sun had an article that he had a hotel room on standby at a nearby hotel? He didn’t come out then and talk about those rumours. Yet, talk of their separation seems to have upset them this time that they’ve felt the need to talk about it. This wouldn’t have been done without Meghan approval either

Which brings me to Tyler. He gave an exclusive interview to E! Where he again, talks about Harry and Meghan relationship:

"They love each other," Tyler told E! News at the Paley Honors Fall Gala, where he was honored with the prestigious Paley Honors award. "They have a beautiful family and I just want the best for them."

Tyler giving an exclusive interview would not have allowed a question on the couple unless it had been ok’d. What we don’t see in the E! Article is what question he was asked to give that somewhat odd reply. Was he asked if they’ve split? Was he asked why Harry didn’t appear with Meghan? Who knows! But it must have been a something questioning their relationship to give out an answer like that. A answer which makes the relationship look like it’s in trouble by saying he wants the best for them. Why did he allow that question in an exclusive interview?

I think it’s because M&H have been rattled by the rumours and annoyed that people have picked up upon him bailing from the Tyler Perry awards and not having been pictured with his wife in months. So they’ve allowed these questions to try and bat away the rumours.

But Tyler saying they love each other and he wants the best for them is hardly a ringing endorsement, it actually sounds more like he’s rooting for them to pull through.

Harry never shuts down the split rumours either, he just laments the press (even though it isn’t the press) for stating he’s been divorced 10/12 times. He doesn’t actually say something like- yes, we’re really focusing on our individual projects right now, busy trying to get as much done as possible and separating projects has allowed us to do that. But rumours about a marriage split are completely wrong and untrue.

So H&M PR have told them to quash the rumours this week, because it looks like they were rattled. Which only leads you then to think, that it’s probably true. They probably are going through something right now.

You don’t make your whole brand about your partnership, then suddenly start doing separate projects and not being seen together in public. Something has gone wrong in the previous approach for them to come up with the conclusion that they can’t be seen together. That he won’t be seen with his wife.

My feelings are that they are taking time out and a step back from the intensity of the last few years. Not necessarily a spilt, but they in their personal lives as well as professional, are trying to work out who they are and what’s their direction. They became enmeshed with each other and that isn’t healthy. They’ve relied on each other too much because both have abandoned their families. It’s not really all that surprising when we know the couple have struggled with poor mental health. It was only 5 years ago meghan was having suicidal thoughts and Harry’s troubles are well known.

So all these rumours have hid a nerve I’d say. I think they really need to step away from the limelight and retreat. Because it looks like it’s going to cost them their relationship.

It's best to ignore and report derailers and personal attacks to MNHQ, as they are breaching talk guidelines. I'd prefer to focus on what's permitted, which is discussion of what public figures say in public, and matters aligned.

Fair point

But it’s important that the language and the aggression they use is noted because many of their posts get deleted. Thus, a reminder of what attacks many of us have to endure just to discuss what is in effect, celeb gossip.

I actually hope they don’t divorce. Because if they do it will be an absolute shit storm. We all know that both of them are happy to dish the dirt and have their side of the story heard. They’ve alienated themselves from most of their family and old friends so will have no wise counsel to reign them in. They would go nuclear.

It would be fun to watch from an outside perspective but the kids will be caught in the cross fire and ultimately be the ones who suffer a la Prince William during the Wales’ divorce.

Yes, in their professional lives very clearly, and in engagements/travel related to that. But other than Harry having a night with the lads at the time of his birthday (once in 7 or so years) there is no evidence of social separation.

Confirmation bias?

I think the idea that he mentioned two widely spread rumours in response to a more generally worded question is a sufficient indication that the subject is up for gossip because he made it so. His aim was to deflect the whole shebang (which hasn’t worked, but that doesn’t amount to an open invitation)

I agree its bizarre that TP would entertain a Q about someone elses marriage at his award ceremony....

....unless...he has an ulterior motive. My guess is that TP sees MM as a commodity and an investment. I believe he and OW are commercially tied up and him giving the house was part of the grooming for the initial OW interview.
And now OW & TP are looking forward to the next dishing the dirt interview and they have calculated it will come from MM whn things go sour. They are just biding their time and keeping their investment current IMHO.

The award for Tyler Perry, which Harry was on the hosting committee for, was a social event. One in which he was slated to appear months ago.

He forgo that event to appear at Dealbook.

So its both work and social settings they have split.

No the open invitation happened much earlier when they sold their love story to Netflix for cold hard cash and eyeballs. And of course, if Harry is mentioning the rumours in public, then yes it’s going to be a point of public discussion.

Yes, in their professional lives very clearly, and in engagements/travel related to that. But other than Harry having a night with the lads at the time of his birthday (once in 7 or so years) there is no evidence of social separation.

Speaking of 'evidence', is there any evidence of a "night with the lads at the time of his birthday"?

And is it not odd for a married man to spend his 40th birthday with unnamed 'lads' rather than his wife and children?

But to go back to my earlier point. Neither has a 'professional life'. The Tyler Perry event was to honour their supposed friend. Harry was listed as a 'host'. So his absence is noteworthy. It doesn't necessarily mean they're bound for the divorce courts, but it is definitely a break with their previous practice, and as such is going to be remarked upon.

I hope they don’t divorce as there are two children in the mix & neither H or M would think twice about dishing the dirt on each other.

I believe that Harry and Meghan were indeed hosts of the Paley Centre award ceremony for Tyler Perry, and that their names were printed (alongside some other names) on the invitations that were sent out.

Tyler Perry is on the Board of Trustees of the Paley Centre. I've been on various Boards in the past and I cannot not recall a Board ever awarding an honour or prize to a fellow Board member, and certainly not our highest honour, while they are still serving. It's just not the done thing.

Sean 'Diddy' Combs sits on the Board of Trustees alongside his friend Tyler Perry.

How interesting.

Do you mean about Sean 'Diddy' Combs and the Paley Centre, @MayaKovskaya? It sure is.

https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/sean-diddy-combs-and-warner-music-group-ceo-robert-kyncl-join-board-of-trustees-at-the-paley-center-for-media/

Yes, thanks, @WinterCrow

TP and OW making money from future interviews is an interesting angle. Assuming that in the event of a separation, any financial settlement for M would have tight restrictions about what can be discussed, is there a cynical play afoot to get H to discuss them first?

They plaster their perceived 'love' over their media channels who entertain their garbage, but when that faux life becomes more toxic then o think we're in 'now territory' ... they're so broken they can't even fake it

Especially when his extended jabber did not include the simple message " We're fine, thanks".

Yes indeed, his actual recorded response was: 'So it's just like, what?'

What on earth does that even mean, and coming from a 40 year old man? Dear oh dear.

(The full 'jabber was, lest we forget: 'Apparently we’ve bought or moved house 10, 12 times. We’ve apparently divorced maybe 10, 12 times as well. So it’s just like, what?')

I think W&K are more likely to separate, but for convenience they may forgo the divorce for some years. That marriage does not appear a happy one.

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Agree with this, they have definitely lost their ‘royal’ sparkle, I used to follow their shenanigans a lot but now when another article appears I often scroll on by, they just don’t have anything to offer apart from royal gossip and that’s thin on the ground now, all they can do is rehash their victim hood on repeat and that’s way past its sell by date.

I don’t know how they will financially survive in the billionaire playground they have inserted themselves in, it’s not as if Meghan is going to appear in the latest blockbuster and Harry is no Taylor Swift, no one is going to pay him much for anything in the future, and as for American Riviera Orchard, that’s not going to keep them in luxury yachts either. I always remember something my grandad said, when financial worries hit, love flies out the window and it wouldn’t surprise me if that is what finishes them, not enough cash for the lifestyle they desperately desire, Harry needs to pull in the big bucks to keep Meghan, It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he gives her the major ick these days, a husband who has to rely on Daddy, his big brother or cash from his dead mother to make very expensive ends meet.

@Dealswithpetty That marriage does not appear a happy one.

I personally must disagree. I think that William and Catherine's marriage looks like a genuinely happy one. Their interactions with each other appear to be those of a couple who are relaxed and contented in each others company, and generally they seem to feel that have nothing to prove to themselves or the world at large.

It's interesting that two different posters can look at the same events and have such differing opinions. Still, I'm sure you know what they say about opinions.

(Ed to clarify that I am referring to William and Catherine.)

I think that moving forward H and M's fortunes will depend on the amount of interest generated in them. In other words anything that keeps them in the public eye and causes debate. So when interest looks to be flagging they could for example stage a public argument, have another child, travel to some country as ambassadors for whatever, introduce a discussion of the rumours about their separation etc. After all unless I'm very mistaken their business ventures don't seem to be very successful

so basically, an upmarket Katie Price-no talent and neither use nor ornament. 40 years is a long time to pull off a Duke of Windsor tribute act.

It is all rather intriguing, but perhaps that is a deliberate strategy to keep people talking about them. After all, Meghan seems adept at setting up 'pap-walk' pics of herself - why not do the same for a few date nights? A few pics of her and Harry (with him in the grip of The Claw, obviously) walking in or out of restaurants/cinemas/theatres would quell some speculation but they aren't doing this. So either they are enjoying the attention and media exposure (keeping themselves as a talking point until the launch of their next venture) or there's something afoot, in my view.