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Both Harry and Tyler talking about H&Ms marriage. Why?

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Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 09:57

Please note, this thread is to discuss the rumours surrounding Harry and Meghans marriage. For those posters who don’t like to speculate, this thread isnt for you.
Now with Harry discussing his marriage in public, on stage with the worlds media watching, then it’s fair comment to discuss such issues.

To my point! Why did both Harry and Tyler allow questions about the marriage and why did they both talk?

There’s always rumours about H&M, that’s nothing new. In these interviews that are requested, possible questions are talked about beforehand with their teams and anything off limits will be strictly outlined. Many celebs will have a strict policy on not discussing certain issues. It’s why we will never see Tom Cruise getting asked about Suri etc

So why oh why, was questions about their marriage/rumours allowed?

So at the Dealbook conference Harry was asked a question about H&M suddenly doing their events separately. Indeed, Harry’s appearance at Dealbook was a surprise when he was slated to appear at Tyler Perrys award months ago.

Question:

There's articles left and right about, you know, 'Why are you doing independent events? Why aren't you doing them together?'" Sorkin said. "Is that a good thing for you, in a way, that there's so much interest in you?"

Harry reflected that the media speculation is "definitely not a good thing," adding: "We've apparently divorced maybe 10, 12 times as well. So, it's just like, what?"

So Harry and his team allowed a question about the rumours of their separation and thrn Harry took it even further by actually talking about divorce rumours, when the interviewer said no such thing.

Theres rumours all the time about their marriage. Remember last year when the Sun had an article that he had a hotel room on standby at a nearby hotel? He didn’t come out then and talk about those rumours. Yet, talk of their separation seems to have upset them this time that they’ve felt the need to talk about it. This wouldn’t have been done without Meghan approval either

Which brings me to Tyler. He gave an exclusive interview to E! Where he again, talks about Harry and Meghan relationship:

"They love each other," Tyler told E! News at the Paley Honors Fall Gala, where he was honored with the prestigious Paley Honors award. "They have a beautiful family and I just want the best for them."

Tyler giving an exclusive interview would not have allowed a question on the couple unless it had been ok’d. What we don’t see in the E! Article is what question he was asked to give that somewhat odd reply. Was he asked if they’ve split? Was he asked why Harry didn’t appear with Meghan? Who knows! But it must have been a something questioning their relationship to give out an answer like that. A answer which makes the relationship look like it’s in trouble by saying he wants the best for them. Why did he allow that question in an exclusive interview?

I think it’s because M&H have been rattled by the rumours and annoyed that people have picked up upon him bailing from the Tyler Perry awards and not having been pictured with his wife in months. So they’ve allowed these questions to try and bat away the rumours.

But Tyler saying they love each other and he wants the best for them is hardly a ringing endorsement, it actually sounds more like he’s rooting for them to pull through.

Harry never shuts down the split rumours either, he just laments the press (even though it isn’t the press) for stating he’s been divorced 10/12 times. He doesn’t actually say something like- yes, we’re really focusing on our individual projects right now, busy trying to get as much done as possible and separating projects has allowed us to do that. But rumours about a marriage split are completely wrong and untrue.

So H&M PR have told them to quash the rumours this week, because it looks like they were rattled. Which only leads you then to think, that it’s probably true. They probably are going through something right now.

You don’t make your whole brand about your partnership, then suddenly start doing separate projects and not being seen together in public. Something has gone wrong in the previous approach for them to come up with the conclusion that they can’t be seen together. That he won’t be seen with his wife.

My feelings are that they are taking time out and a step back from the intensity of the last few years. Not necessarily a spilt, but they in their personal lives as well as professional, are trying to work out who they are and what’s their direction. They became enmeshed with each other and that isn’t healthy. They’ve relied on each other too much because both have abandoned their families. It’s not really all that surprising when we know the couple have struggled with poor mental health. It was only 5 years ago meghan was having suicidal thoughts and Harry’s troubles are well known.

So all these rumours have hid a nerve I’d say. I think they really need to step away from the limelight and retreat. Because it looks like it’s going to cost them their relationship.

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FloofPaws · 07/12/2024 13:36

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 13:28

Yeh, the only things that place him at home were the two videos he done (he was wearing a poppy) so was a while ago.

But that could have just have been him visiting

I think someone said the one with poppies was recorded a while before Remembrance Day

cheezncrackers · 07/12/2024 13:38

I agree with you OP that if Harry was trying to shut down rumours and speculation about whether them essentially living separate public lives means all is not rosy in the marriage, all he did was add fuel to the fire.

Rather than giving a positive reason for their professional separation, which you would expect from someone whose marriage is just fine and dandy, thanks very much, he gave a sort of non-answer that just made me go 'Oh, so maybe there IS something to the rumours'.

The fact that they haven't been photographed off-duty just going about normal family business is weird too. My DH and I may work separately, but if a pap was following us around they'd soon snap us at the tip, the supermarket, cheering on our kids at sports, etc. But I think the last pic of saw of H&M together was in the back of a car (her in the middle, of course, for max exposure) and him looking grim-faced.

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 13:39

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 07/12/2024 13:33

I guess they’ve mentioned it because it’s been doing the rounds on social media a lot for the best part of a year. There’s been some “real” media hints, but the fact they are definitely splitting up has been discussed for months online.

refusing to address rumours is taken as fact it’s true, so there comes a point when you need to say “this is nonsense”.

it’s interesting that the narrative has switched to them being the next Will and Jada Smith, so them not divorcing stops being evidence that the rumours of a split is untrue.

There were rumours in Hollywood for years about jada and will - some pretty scandalous ones

H&M aren’t in that league

But their sudden switch in how they present their personal lives is the main evidence of a separation.

As I say in my first post- a separation in their personal lives is definitely happening. We can see it. It’s not just work. Does that mean a full on divorce- not sure but they aren’t the intertwined palm trees of 2020

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Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 13:40

Brilliant @cheezncrackers

Hit the nail on the head.

He could have easily answered that question and moved on, but he chose to go down the divorce rumour path

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FancyBiscuitsLevel · 07/12/2024 13:41

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 13:17

Very much is

JLo and Ben rumours were around in spring and by summer they were split. It was all over the papers. It’s gossip. It’s how they keep their name in the headlines

True but that’s normal timelines for real gossip isn’t it? The rumours of split start a few months before it’s official because the couple have started making moves to separate their lives and the change is noticed.

H&M have had rumours of a split for at least a year. Feels like it’s going on for too long.

Extiainoiapeial · 07/12/2024 13:42

H&M have had rumours of a split for at least a year. Feels like it’s going on for too long

You'll just have to be patient

EdithWeston · 07/12/2024 13:43

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 13:01

Then perhaps Harry shouldnt be discussing divorce rumours about his marriage in front of the world’s media. He didn’t have to. He chose to. That’s the point of my post.

Therefore, it’s perfectly reasonable to discuss such matters.

Did he discuss them?

I thought it was just a deflection

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 13:46

@FancyBiscuitsLevel

Well it depends what type of separation.

JLO and Ben were a disaster waiting to happen they were all about the drama, so that’s why is happened at accelerated speed.

With H&M it’s more complicated. They have young kids for a start and they have a lot to prove against the naysayers. You can also part, not because of the lack of love but because you aren’t the same people anymore.

That’s the feeling that I get from these two. It was a whirlwind, us against the world….and now things have settled.

It could be that they are just behaving like a normal couple now and don’t need to be enmeshed but that was never their style. Their style was that they were super close and can’t operate without one another. That becomes suffocating after a while and as I said earlier- neither have great MH. So it was a lot of pressure to put themselves under

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Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 13:48

EdithWeston · 07/12/2024 13:43

Did he discuss them?

I thought it was just a deflection

He was asked why him and Meghan doing separate events. Divorce rumours weren’t discussed- yet Harry brought it up

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Extiainoiapeial · 07/12/2024 13:55

Surely asking why he is doing seperate events is hinting at some sort of seperation, personal or professional, or both, so it's not a stretch for him to answer that question about the endless speculation about their marriage

cavea · 07/12/2024 13:59

Well if Harry can talk about it in a very public interview and if Tyler Perry can comment on it, also very publicly. Both of which are reported in the mainstream media, I think a few Royal Family followers can discuss it on mumsnet.

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 14:01

Asking about doing separate events could have easily been handled by stating that work commitments have meant they are able to achieve more by splitting their time on projects, whilst also allowing one parent to remain at their home base.

But he never did that- he brought up divorce rumours instead.

Which was odd

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Baital · 07/12/2024 14:08

It would have been quite straightforward to answer with something along the lines of 'we've had a few separate work commitments lately so it will be great to be able to spend time as a family over Xmas ' or similar.

Maybe he is just badly advised about comms. Deflection tends to increase the speculation.

WinterCrow · 07/12/2024 14:09

The full response was, 'Apparently we’ve bought or moved house 10, 12 times. We’ve apparently divorced maybe 10, 12 times as well. So it’s just like, what?'

Apart from it trailing off into incoherence, I cannot recall anyone or any media outlet alleging that he has moved house '10, 12 times', or that they have divorced.

Or is is alluding to his wife's previous known divorce and alleged annulment?

Why is he even raising the spectre of all these things? I agree that it seems an odd media strategy for a public figure, especially one who employs expensive 'global' communications people, PR experts, chief of staff etc.

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Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 14:12

It’s why the interviewer even asked the question. To me it seems Harry wanted to have a say- which makes him look tetchy about the subject.

Harrys team could have easily said beforehand- no questions about my dad, Catherine and her illness or anything about divorce rumours. That’s why he will have a team with him, this is all ironed out before. He may not be aware of the exact question but will be aware of the sort of questions that will be asked. He can rule out beforehand what he doesn’t want to discuss. This isn’t Question Time. It partly planned.

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cavea · 07/12/2024 14:13

It was a silly response, not dissimilar to some of the posts on SM from their fans, he just sounded like one of the trolls he complains about.

He could have replied with a more dignified and professional response, even if it didn't put the silly rumours to rest, he would have looked like a normal adult..

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EdithWeston · 07/12/2024 14:17

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 13:15

I wonder why, Harry and Meghan divorce rumours hurt so badly for some?

Its not as if Harry and Meghan read about themselves….Harry told us so just the other day.

Because it’s tasteless, and because it’s not based on evidence.

The professional separation can be evidenced, but there are compelling business reasons for that.

The soundness of the marriage is just rumour, because it’s something the public doesn’t see. Speculation on it has not reached the depths of the Sussex Squad and what they were inventing about the Wales family earlier this year. But it’s not a race to the bottom, and just because another group did far worse, it does not follow that this is OK

MayaKovskaya · 07/12/2024 14:18

cavea · 07/12/2024 14:13

It was a silly response, not dissimilar to some of the posts on SM from their fans, he just sounded like one of the trolls he complains about.

He could have replied with a more dignified and professional response, even if it didn't put the silly rumours to rest, he would have looked like a normal adult..

He doesn't want to put rumours to rest, though - they desperately need rumours and whatever stories they can muster, they need the headlines, they need the clicks.
What are they without them?

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 14:19

EdithWeston · 07/12/2024 14:17

Because it’s tasteless, and because it’s not based on evidence.

The professional separation can be evidenced, but there are compelling business reasons for that.

The soundness of the marriage is just rumour, because it’s something the public doesn’t see. Speculation on it has not reached the depths of the Sussex Squad and what they were inventing about the Wales family earlier this year. But it’s not a race to the bottom, and just because another group did far worse, it does not follow that this is OK

Yes, there is evidence of a separation. Both in their work lives and socially.

Which is precisely why he was asked about it at Dealbook and he chose to answer the question in reference to divorce rumours

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IcedPurple · 07/12/2024 14:20

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 14:01

Asking about doing separate events could have easily been handled by stating that work commitments have meant they are able to achieve more by splitting their time on projects, whilst also allowing one parent to remain at their home base.

But he never did that- he brought up divorce rumours instead.

Which was odd

They weren't bothered about leaving the children thousands of miles away when they both flew off to Nigeria and Colombia for their 'tours'.

I agree the situation is odd. As I said on another thread, Harry will very likely have preapproved or even planted this question. That's how these PR interviews work. If he didn't want to be asked about his personal life, he could have made that clear. But he didn't. Maybe they're deliberately trying to stir up gossip in order to play the victim of 'trolls'. Or maybe they really are having problems. Either way, I don't agree with all the pearl clutching about speculation, given that they have actively encouraged an interest in their 'love story'.

Sunblessed · 07/12/2024 14:24

EdithWeston · 07/12/2024 14:17

Because it’s tasteless, and because it’s not based on evidence.

The professional separation can be evidenced, but there are compelling business reasons for that.

The soundness of the marriage is just rumour, because it’s something the public doesn’t see. Speculation on it has not reached the depths of the Sussex Squad and what they were inventing about the Wales family earlier this year. But it’s not a race to the bottom, and just because another group did far worse, it does not follow that this is OK

Then in the nicest possible way, as outlined earlier, then perhaps don’t engage with threads like mine.

If you see it as tasteless and a race to the bottom, that’s fine. I’m perfectly content however to discuss the marriage of a couple who sold their love story to Netflix for millions of dollars. They made their relationship public fodder.
All you’re doing is pushing up the posts and keeping the thread alive.

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FlabbergastedByTheGorgons · 07/12/2024 14:25

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 07/12/2024 12:41

Why do YOU speculate about it? These threads should be taken down, nevermind you trying to stop people posting on it, OP. You're part of the problem you're whinging about.

Ugh. Who cares about Harry and Meghan's marriage? It's their marriage, nobody else's. Nosy isn't the word, creepy is more apt.

And yet you clicked on the thread title.

cavea · 07/12/2024 14:27

Harry and Meghan let the genie out of the box, there is no way they can get it back in now. They are reaping the repercussions of what they sowed, its become a free for all and their words along the way are coming back to haunt them. There is little respect for them, not many people look at them sympathetically anymore.

Look at this comment, what kind of a comment is this ? it sounds so immature and very like the SussexSquad party line, he just shouldn't have gone there.

The people I feel most sorry about are the trolls," he continued. "Their hopes are just built and built, and it's like, 'Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,' and then it doesn't happen. So I feel sorry for them. Genuinely, I do."

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