Harry and Meghans children

[Willowgirls]

I keep reading that Archie and lilibet are not real.
Photos are of other peoples children.
But surely the press would know the truth.
I'm sure they will have seen them being taken to school/nursery
even if they didn't take pictures or is it just the nanny taking them.
That was one of the arguments of leaving they would never be able to
take them to school yet William and Catherine can do school drop off
with no publicity unless they announce it. (First day of term)

DNA could prove who biological parents are but not who gave birth. The rules haven’t kept up with medical advancements and as there is a ‘born of the body’ requirement, DNA testing on its own isn’t enough.

It’s not a ‘super fertile’ flex for goodness sake but there’s really no harm in counteracting this stupid myth some people hold that you wake up on your 35th birthday practically barren.

sorry, I did quote the wrong post there! I agree with you. This was meant to be directed at the poster who labeled mid-thirties women who conceived without issue the ‘super fertile brigade’

I thought the requirement was that it should be a "natural born child", and in law that means the child of parents who are legally married to each other at the time of the child's birth.

Yes, that's right.

The wording in the Act of Settlement 1701 still applies and states ‘heirs of the body’.

Interestingly this was debated in 2013 when some of the rules were changed - what if there was a same sex union or surrogacy. In reality, this rule hasn’t been tested in the modern age and could quite possibly be amended if it ever was.

hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2013-03-13/debates/13031351000661/SuccessionToTheCrownBill

Of course they are real! We have seen them loads of times from birth and they have released Christmas cards etc. I just don’t understand why anyone would question if their children exist, we have all seen them! This must be the worst conspiracy theory ever 🙄.

The Marquess of Bath’s second son is excluded from (potentially) inheriting as he was born via surrogate, don’t think it would be any different for the Sussex kids or the RF generally.

It’s nuts to suspect the kids don’t exist, how on earth would anyone expect to get away with that for any length of time? Aside from the difficulties of maintaining friendships with people so you can potentially borrow their kids, the roundness of Meghan’s face and change in the shape of her torso post Archie couldn’t be easily faked. I’d put Harry’s weird account and timeline of the birth down to poor memory and a bit of garnishing of events to make the story more amusing and rose-tinted for his book. To be fair there are comparatively few photos/bits of footage of Meghan when she was pregnant with Lilbet, the OB who delivered her shut her practice a year later, and they’d moved to the US where surrogacy is more commonplace. But why lie? She could easily have said that she found pregnancy tough mentally or that trauma/physical difficulties after her miscarriage meant she was advised against another pregnancy for her own health and be upfront about it. It would be bizarre to take the risk and lie, and too much potential for a slip up by one of the many people along the line who would have had to have been complicit. Nah.

Why should she talk about her health issues (if she has any), ahe is alllwed to decide she doesnt want the world to knwo certaind etauls just like many people don't expect Catehrine to reveal her details around her health and spwak out to say respect her right to privacy about her health issues.

It's a preferable thing compared to what used to happen in years gone by!

People's medical details and choices are private. That's all. It doesn't matter what help, support, intervention, medical procedures took place, it's nothing to do with us. M&H have two children, any other conclusion is a bit loopy.
I also thought the birthing story in Spare was a bit odd, but that's Harry for you, it doesn't mean there's a conspiracy. He said in the book he was high, so he's not really a reliable narrator.

I'm sorry if the light-hearted attempt at humour and irony didn't come over, Spectre.

I'm only taking an interest, and I'm sure Meghan in particular would agree with Oscar Wilde when he said 'There's only one thing worse than being talked about, and that's not being talked about'.

How would Meghan exist without the oxygen of publicity? I don't think she's the homely, retiring type!

Much of the nonsense about the Sussexes is ' someone who doesn't know whats going on makes up some crap from one photo then everyone believes it and says ' why won't they tell the truth about the kids being fake/IVF/Surrogacy etc? The surrogate/ doctor/ staff would make an absolute fortune selling that story to the press. And apparently Meghan has no friends and is always falling out with staff. It's a bit of a big risk to take, and they would be vulnerable to blackmail forevermore, as would Lilibet if it took her out of the LoS. It just wouldn't be worth the risk. I still think all of this is about strangers fantasising about Harry ditching Meghan and the children because the children permanently link the RF to Meghan.

If anyone is interested this is who those people think is Lili’s actor 🤣

I mean I can see a bit of a resemblance but not enough to convince me it’s the same kid. Also, why would Stassi Schroeder hire her kid out to them when she is fairly high profile herself? It doesn’t make sense!

As has been said elsewhere, Lilli is the spit of Thomas Markle…

I know I’d be a bit disappointed if H&M kept a low profile, because they do provide endless entertainment, but look what happens when they do keep out of view - there’s nothing (apart from silly conspiracy theories) to talk about. They fade from the conversation and they can live in peace. So let’s see if they can manage to exist quietly or whether the call of fame is too hard to turn their backs on.

If this was true, imagine the stupidity of repeatedly and publicly pissing off the very people that could expose you if they got pushed too far.

Of course Archie and Lillibet are not real.
How could they be? Meghan and Harry are not real to start with.
OP, use logic ffs.

In other news , I have just read that Harry has been voted the 25th hottest man of all time .
I checked the date and it’s not 1st April .,

Lighten up @Spectre8

If u check the text against his entry, it was written before he was married i. e. old copy, repurposed.

did the op ever come back?

Yes undoubtably there has never been more than 25 men more handsome than Harold.

Lord Byron, Marlon Brando, Brad Pitt, Henry Cavill.. all hideous compared to the majestic good looks of Prince Haz.

He's practically a god. And he's only going to get better with age. I dream about being in a lift with him while he looks at me like a bad smell. That would be an honour.

No wonder its not safe for him to come to the UK, Beatle-mania would be nothing compared to the mob of millions that his insane good looks would draw.

And I just know he has a personality to match his looks ❤️

One of the many perplexing things about Spare was that no one took him aside and said, "Do you really want to make those disparaging comments about your brother going bald?" when he's been doing a fluffed-up comb-over for years now.

Was Rory McGrath number 26?! 🤮

Rather sparse fluff nowadays. Must have to be economical with the royal comb.

A spare without much hair. Not many strands to spare. Hopefully it will be different for his heir.

I think the press make a point now of taking photos from an angle to feature the noble pate in all its glory.

I wonder when he'll look in mirror and see someone alarmingly bald and miserable looking.