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Harry’s anxiety in NY

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Makingwaves2 · 23/09/2024 20:13

What to make of the fact that he appeared without Meghan and looked quite anxious and stressed?

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CoffeeCantata · 25/09/2024 14:27

Makingwaves
In any case she was incredibly crass to have implied that it was an actual ceremony that rendered the whole hugely expensive shebang unnecessary and a drain on the public purse. She sneered that it wasn’t her choice and therefore came across as incredibly ungrateful and entitled. Not to mention the embarrassment she caused the Archbishop.

Quite - it was appallingly ungrateful to the UK taxpayer!

And extremely ironic, considering she'd lobbied for an even grander do at Westminster Abbey - even trying to push the Queen on this, even after being told 'no'! Just one more of the grudges she had against Catherine...

GrouchyKiwi · 25/09/2024 14:29

justasking111 · 25/09/2024 14:12

I can't really because where my friend taught in
Sentebale really was wild camping style. Although Harry used his influence so that brieze block buildings were erected. Paper, pencils, blackboards, text books were brought in.

Also footwear..

Sorry, do you mean your friend taught in Lesotho/Botswana? Sentebale is the charity. Did she work for Sentebale in one of those countries?

justasking111 · 25/09/2024 14:37

GrouchyKiwi · 25/09/2024 14:29

Sorry, do you mean your friend taught in Lesotho/Botswana? Sentebale is the charity. Did she work for Sentebale in one of those countries?

I'm trying to be discreet, one of those mentioned is where she was based

Uricon2 · 25/09/2024 14:38

All she needed to say re the wedding was that they had a private blessing by the Archbishop a few days before, where they were able to say things that they couldn't as part of the official service and it was very special to them.

But no, max drama re actually being married days earlier in some utterly illegal way and dissing the St George's chapel ceremony (which was also a religious service, not a legal formality) as a "spectacle", to the point where the A ofC had to publically clarify what had happened.

This is not the behaviour of a sensible grownup.

GrouchyKiwi · 25/09/2024 14:40

justasking111 · 25/09/2024 14:37

I'm trying to be discreet, one of those mentioned is where she was based

Ah cool, thanks. Smile

Citrusandginger · 25/09/2024 14:42

Totally agree. If she had said the rehearsal meant more to them because it was more intimate, people would have understood.

Dissing the very expensive shown around the world spectacle as not real, OTH is quite a breathtaking display of tactlessness

garlicandsapphires · 25/09/2024 14:43

Spectre8 · 25/09/2024 14:00

For me the religious ceremony is when I am married not the UK legal part and if anyone asked me thats what i would say. I don't think she is wrong to say for her thats when she felt she had got married. Other people might say well no you were just becuae it wasn't legal but thats their filter and perspective on what they believe married means. So for them she is lying for others it's not.

Yeah I can't get worked up about the 'we got married 3 days earlier' thing.
I can see what they meant, but it was clumsy and sloppy to mention it.
I tend to believe they are misguided and short sighted, rather than malicious.
I do we think we love to classify people into goodies and baddies, it makes for a better story after all, but the reality is (probably) that they are trying their best and getting it wrong like the rest of us. Meghan was right about the polarisation of her and Kate - one good, one bad.

Mylovelygreendress · 25/09/2024 14:47

garlicandsapphires · 25/09/2024 14:43

Yeah I can't get worked up about the 'we got married 3 days earlier' thing.
I can see what they meant, but it was clumsy and sloppy to mention it.
I tend to believe they are misguided and short sighted, rather than malicious.
I do we think we love to classify people into goodies and baddies, it makes for a better story after all, but the reality is (probably) that they are trying their best and getting it wrong like the rest of us. Meghan was right about the polarisation of her and Kate - one good, one bad.

THEY didn’t say it , Meghan did . Harry looked a bit uncomfortable at some of her revelations.

Makingwaves2 · 25/09/2024 14:48

Mylovelygreendress · 25/09/2024 14:47

THEY didn’t say it , Meghan did . Harry looked a bit uncomfortable at some of her revelations.

He never ever sets her right though does he? (More than his life is worth..)

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StrawberryWasp · 25/09/2024 15:02

I'm quite sure the Queen would have been more than happy for them to have a small legal registry office ceermony and then a private blessing, instead of the whole big shin dig.
As Charles and Camilla did, due to it being a second marriage.

But the horrid public made her have an A listers guest list, a tiara, and a carriage ride waving to adoring crowds.
So sad for them 😂😂

Spectre8 · 25/09/2024 15:19

garlicandsapphires · 25/09/2024 14:43

Yeah I can't get worked up about the 'we got married 3 days earlier' thing.
I can see what they meant, but it was clumsy and sloppy to mention it.
I tend to believe they are misguided and short sighted, rather than malicious.
I do we think we love to classify people into goodies and baddies, it makes for a better story after all, but the reality is (probably) that they are trying their best and getting it wrong like the rest of us. Meghan was right about the polarisation of her and Kate - one good, one bad.

I agree with you, i cannotnworked up about or abojt other tjings like creases in clothes, ahock horror clothes like pure linen and silk get creased when you site or move about 🙄, or so what of she isnt perfectlt styled all the time. Lets be real none of us are either and I'd rather see more famous people looking more realistic than the unrealistic perfection we constantly see that isn't attainable without work or serious money. We are all still human and making the best of our lives as we can under the circumstances we find ourselves in.

The polarisation is clear to see in many places and people love to label and shoehorn people into boxes so they can be judgemental about them. However it's not as simple as black or white.

forevernumb · 25/09/2024 15:30

@Spectre8

"For me the religious ceremony is when I am married not the UK legal part and if anyone asked me thats what i would say. I don't think she is wrong to say for her thats when she felt she had got married. Other people might say well no you were just becuae it wasn't legal but thats their filter and perspective on what they believe married means. So for them she is lying for others it's not."

This doesn't make sense as there are not two parts to a marriage in the UK - religious and legal. If you marry in a church ( or whatever) then that IS the legal ceremony. If you get married at a licensed venue then that IS the legal ceremony. There is only one legal part to a marriage. I know some people get a blessing after a registry office but the legal one was the Registry Office.

However the fact remains only one is legal and that was the Church of England one. Maybe she felt married when she was in a tent in Africa 🤷‍♀️ . Feelings don't change the legality of it. It has been stated by the Archbishop of Canterbury that the legal wedding was 19 May which is reflected on the marriage document.

She told a lie.

She didn't say " I feel as if we got married three days before"

She said " three days before our wedding we got married"

Mylovelygreendress · 25/09/2024 15:41

StrawberryWasp · 25/09/2024 15:02

I'm quite sure the Queen would have been more than happy for them to have a small legal registry office ceermony and then a private blessing, instead of the whole big shin dig.
As Charles and Camilla did, due to it being a second marriage.

But the horrid public made her have an A listers guest list, a tiara, and a carriage ride waving to adoring crowds.
So sad for them 😂😂

Harry and Meghan wanted Westminster Abbey or St Paul’s for their “ spectacle . They were told no . It was suggested a small church in Tetbury but they said no .
They wanted a red carpet but were told no .

forevernumb · 25/09/2024 15:45

@Mylovelygreendress I don't actually give a shit about the wedding per se but I will pick up on a liar as I detest liars.

SonicTheHodgeheg · 25/09/2024 15:46

StrawberryWasp · 25/09/2024 15:02

I'm quite sure the Queen would have been more than happy for them to have a small legal registry office ceermony and then a private blessing, instead of the whole big shin dig.
As Charles and Camilla did, due to it being a second marriage.

But the horrid public made her have an A listers guest list, a tiara, and a carriage ride waving to adoring crowds.
So sad for them 😂😂

Princess Beatrice’s wedding pics were stunning with lovely little touches like the altered dress (I guess that’s the borrowed item)

EdithWeston · 25/09/2024 15:50

There is one person in the UK who has the authority to solemnise a legally binding marriage between two people who are eligible to be married and to do so anywhere at any time and regardless of notice periods, and that person is the Archbishop of Canterbury (as he can personally grant the special licence that allows it- it’s the same underpinning right that allows special licences for eg bedside marriages for the gravely ill)

That is why the words she used mattered as they carried a legal implication, and the Archbishop should never have been placed in a position where a denial was necessary.

forevernumb · 25/09/2024 16:04

Yet again this was another incident of Meghan blurring her stories in an airy fairy Hollywood way and not realising the actual legal and Royal system in the UK and how important it actually is. You can't just get married off the cuff as if in an Elvis Chapel in Las Vegas.

BruFord · 25/09/2024 16:06

MrsLeonFarrell · 25/09/2024 07:53

Something has gone awry. I wonder if the rumours that he wanted to go and live in Africa were true. Maybe he would have been more effective there.

Working quietly, learning, building up a reputation worth having in the very crowded charity sector takes time and it's low profile. For some reason he needs a high profile, hence the sitting on panels where he doesn't have much expertise to contribute.

Invictus and Sentebele both stem from the days he had access to top class above. He needs that now.

@MrsLeonFarrell I suspect that Harry is realizing that when you commit to a LTR, you’re unlikely to be happy if you let go of the interests that previously defined you/you felt strongly about, in order to conform to your partner’s lifestyle.

MM quickly realized that Royal life wasn’t for her and she got out-perhaps he’s realizing that her preferred lifestyle isn’t the best fit for him either? He needs to focus more on what he feels strongly about, but of course, they still need to make money somehow.

This could be why William advised his brother not to rush into the relationship and take time to get to know reach other?

SmileyHappyPeopleInTheSun · 25/09/2024 16:11

forevernumb · 25/09/2024 16:04

Yet again this was another incident of Meghan blurring her stories in an airy fairy Hollywood way and not realising the actual legal and Royal system in the UK and how important it actually is. You can't just get married off the cuff as if in an Elvis Chapel in Las Vegas.

That was my take on it.

However in UK it did come across as very ungrateful to crowds, taxpayers and many people who worked on event - and her inaccurate words did put Archbishop in a difficult position. I think they could have clarified after the interview - but then there was a lot they could of clarified or corrected.

Spectre8 · 25/09/2024 16:18

forevernumb · 25/09/2024 15:30

@Spectre8

"For me the religious ceremony is when I am married not the UK legal part and if anyone asked me thats what i would say. I don't think she is wrong to say for her thats when she felt she had got married. Other people might say well no you were just becuae it wasn't legal but thats their filter and perspective on what they believe married means. So for them she is lying for others it's not."

This doesn't make sense as there are not two parts to a marriage in the UK - religious and legal. If you marry in a church ( or whatever) then that IS the legal ceremony. If you get married at a licensed venue then that IS the legal ceremony. There is only one legal part to a marriage. I know some people get a blessing after a registry office but the legal one was the Registry Office.

However the fact remains only one is legal and that was the Church of England one. Maybe she felt married when she was in a tent in Africa 🤷‍♀️ . Feelings don't change the legality of it. It has been stated by the Archbishop of Canterbury that the legal wedding was 19 May which is reflected on the marriage document.

She told a lie.

She didn't say " I feel as if we got married three days before"

She said " three days before our wedding we got married"

As I said for me in my religion marriage is the religious ceremony I complete and that makes me married, it just won't be considered legal in the UK and therefore if we parted ways no divorce laws would apply and obviously anywhere that needed me to show proof of marriage i would not be able to.

For my marriage to be considered legal in the UK then I have to go through the additional part and if thst was 3 days after my religious ceremony where I was married than so what. I'm married religiously and then legally married, I'm not lying.

Spectre8 · 25/09/2024 16:20

forevernumb · 25/09/2024 15:45

@Mylovelygreendress I don't actually give a shit about the wedding per se but I will pick up on a liar as I detest liars.

So you have never ever lied yourself? Not even a small one? Not even a white lie which is still a lie?

Mylovelygreendress · 25/09/2024 16:27

Spectre8 · 25/09/2024 16:18

As I said for me in my religion marriage is the religious ceremony I complete and that makes me married, it just won't be considered legal in the UK and therefore if we parted ways no divorce laws would apply and obviously anywhere that needed me to show proof of marriage i would not be able to.

For my marriage to be considered legal in the UK then I have to go through the additional part and if thst was 3 days after my religious ceremony where I was married than so what. I'm married religiously and then legally married, I'm not lying.

They were married in The Church of England so they were NOT married 3 days beforehand.

ThePoshUns · 25/09/2024 16:28

Fgs @Spectre8 you're like a bloody parrot. Give it a rest.

Spectre8 · 25/09/2024 16:29

ThePoshUns · 25/09/2024 16:28

Fgs @Spectre8 you're like a bloody parrot. Give it a rest.

Better than being rude like you 😬 calm down it just an online forum, ignore me if it bothers you that much

LaMarschallin · 25/09/2024 16:36

Spectre8 · 25/09/2024 16:18

As I said for me in my religion marriage is the religious ceremony I complete and that makes me married, it just won't be considered legal in the UK and therefore if we parted ways no divorce laws would apply and obviously anywhere that needed me to show proof of marriage i would not be able to.

For my marriage to be considered legal in the UK then I have to go through the additional part and if thst was 3 days after my religious ceremony where I was married than so what. I'm married religiously and then legally married, I'm not lying.

But Meghan and Harry got married in an Anglican religious ceremony conducted by the Archbishop* *of Canterbury.
That is the religious ceremony.
It makes no difference that in other people's religions - including yours - that there are separate religious and official ceremonies - the ceremony conducted by the A of C at St George's Chapel was both the official and religious wedding.
Meghan, being a divorcee, was lucky to get that. In our small town we have one vicar who'll marry divorced people and one who won't and apparently the decision is up to the vicar and their feelings on the matter.
Meghan and Harry weren't married in any shape or form secretly in the back yard three days before their real wedding, and they blooming know it.

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