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The royal family

Harry’s anxiety in NY

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Makingwaves2 · 23/09/2024 20:13

What to make of the fact that he appeared without Meghan and looked quite anxious and stressed?

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yesmen · 30/09/2024 23:27

Runnerinthenight · 30/09/2024 22:34

"A statesman"???

Man's a legend in his own lunchbox!

"So there" - are you 4?

It was an attempt at humour.

It clearly failed.

Apologies.

Triplesec · 01/10/2024 01:11

They love Harry!

Harry’s anxiety in NY
Triplesec · 01/10/2024 01:14

What a sweetheart of a young lady she is!

Harry’s anxiety in NY
Runnerinthenight · 01/10/2024 02:23

Blegh.

BemusedAmerican · 01/10/2024 03:16

Well, all I've heard on the radio for the past two days was Harry visited a tattoo parlor on the LES. After he pulled out, Jelly Roll arrived. Nothing about his speeches.

Oh, he was called "slightly cowardly" by Newsweek over African Parks:
https://www.newsweek.com/prince-harry-cowardly-controversial-project-african-parks-podcast-1959150

Prince Harry in New York

Prince Harry "cowardly" over controversial project

Harry's attendance at a New York event held by a charity facing human rights abuse allegations has drawn attention.

https://www.newsweek.com/prince-harry-cowardly-controversial-project-african-parks-podcast-1959150

Makingwaves2 · 01/10/2024 06:48

BruFord · 30/09/2024 21:51

Yes, even if his marriage fails, I don't think for a minute that he wouldn't spend significant amounts of time in the US. It's difficult to move American children to another country without both parents' permission, so he'd have to spend time with them there. Mind you, even regular British tourists can spend up to 90 days in the US per visit without a visa, so he could technically move back to the UK and visit them for extended periods.

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Why couldn’t they fly over to the UK in school holidays? When they’re old enough of course.

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MummyJ12 · 01/10/2024 06:59

If there are any squaddies out there who speak German, they will be frothing at what the German press are printing and writing about at the moment. They think the British press are bad?! Not linking because the articles are vile.

Meanwhile, in the U.K., operation bring Harry in from the cold, PR blitz and reputation rehab is in full force.

Needanewname42 · 01/10/2024 07:03

Makingwaves2 · 01/10/2024 06:48

Why couldn’t they fly over to the UK in school holidays? When they’re old enough of course.

Exactly also I'm sure Mr H would be able to afford a nanny to accompany the children even when they are too young to fly on their own.
Remember they have better privacy laws here than there.

He's reportedly already looking for somewhere in the UK.

Makingwaves2 · 01/10/2024 07:04

Needanewname42 · 01/10/2024 07:03

Exactly also I'm sure Mr H would be able to afford a nanny to accompany the children even when they are too young to fly on their own.
Remember they have better privacy laws here than there.

He's reportedly already looking for somewhere in the UK.

They just need a member of staff really when they’re a bit older.

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SidekickSylvia · 01/10/2024 07:37

I don't want to say which country I'm from, but there's something really weird going on wrt press cover in our main newspapers. It basically boils down to; Harry = A Very Good Person. Meghan = A Very Bad Person. This is in complete contrast to a month ago and I can't help but wonder if Harry (and only Harry) is back under the wing of TRF's press team.

Alectoishome · 01/10/2024 07:41

BruFord · 30/09/2024 21:51

Yes, even if his marriage fails, I don't think for a minute that he wouldn't spend significant amounts of time in the US. It's difficult to move American children to another country without both parents' permission, so he'd have to spend time with them there. Mind you, even regular British tourists can spend up to 90 days in the US per visit without a visa, so he could technically move back to the UK and visit them for extended periods.

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Surely they have duel nationality, the children? Archie at least must be a British citizen, he was born in the UK.

Ellerby83 · 01/10/2024 07:44

Would Meghan want the children to visit the UK? Could she stop it happening?

AutumnCrow · 01/10/2024 07:47

If H is on an A1 diplomatic type visa, Liz’s British citizenship would be a slam dunk too, I think?

But I daresay that M is very well aware of such matters, and far better versed in them than me.

Makingwaves2 · 01/10/2024 07:51

Ellerby83 · 01/10/2024 07:44

Would Meghan want the children to visit the UK? Could she stop it happening?

I imagine the terms of any settlement would involve the children visiting their father regularly.

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Makingwaves2 · 01/10/2024 07:53

SidekickSylvia · 01/10/2024 07:37

I don't want to say which country I'm from, but there's something really weird going on wrt press cover in our main newspapers. It basically boils down to; Harry = A Very Good Person. Meghan = A Very Bad Person. This is in complete contrast to a month ago and I can't help but wonder if Harry (and only Harry) is back under the wing of TRF's press team.

There is certainly some spin going on. From the rumours that he wanted to come back into the fold etc. it’s all very odd.

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MrsFinkelstein · 01/10/2024 07:55

Spectre8 · 30/09/2024 17:50

Well who said that's their true definition of love. Just you? Did they come and define what being in love for them means?

What's make you think they will split up? Because they aren't doing the same events? Let's hear your reasons then...

As Meghan said - her and Harry are like salt and pepper "they move together".

That and a palm tree "joined at the bottom".

Alectoishome · 01/10/2024 07:58

Gosh can you imagine how many millions she'd take him for, in the event of a divorce. Yikes, she'd be ruthless. Her greed knows no bounds. He'd be (comparatively) quite a poor man once she'd finished with him.

Baital · 01/10/2024 08:00

If they divorce - if, and hopefully they remain happily married - she could only go after what is there.

I do wonder how much is left. And if they are outspending their income that amount goes down all the time.

CoffeeCantata · 01/10/2024 08:11

Runnerinthenight · 01/10/2024 02:23

Blegh.

H & M fans never seem to look below the surface of any of this stuff.

CoffeeCantata · 01/10/2024 08:19

Ellerby83 · 01/10/2024 07:44

Would Meghan want the children to visit the UK? Could she stop it happening?

I've always cringed for those children, whether the marriage survives or not. I cannot see how they will grow up with any kind of relaxed, 'normal' family dynamic - only having Doria as extended family, and presumably soon beginning to ask 'Mommy and Daddy - why haven't I got a Grandpa?' or similar. OK - one of their Grandpas is a KIng, but that's weird enough without all the bad feeling between the Sussexes and the RF. And as for explaining why the other Grandpa has been ditched - I suppose it's possible that Meghan has her reasons, just about, but again - from the children's point of view, it willl be hard to explain.

It's fine while these children are infants, and don't question their parents or the status quo, but once they go to school, start to socialise with their peers and look around them at extended families (particularly at what the Americans call 'holiday times') they'll have some awkward questions for Harry and Meghan. I wonder if they've thought about that? Whatever happens, I can see the children becoming embroiled in it all and it will surely harm them. In fact, I'd say that the break up of their parents' marriage (I'm not wishing it) would be the least of the family's problems. It's not just that Meghan isn't close to her relations - she and they are at daggers drawn - a truly horrible scenario for children to become aware of.

Staunchlystarling · 01/10/2024 08:22

StrawberryWasp · 30/09/2024 21:28

I heard, I think it was Angela Levin say that they left the garden party because it was just a few days after their wedding and they'd agreed just to attend briefly.
Charles was giving them permission to leave/ letting them know they'd done enough for that day.

Who knows 🤷🏼.

I also don't think Harry will want to return to the UK. I think he'll want to try to make his marriage work above all else and if it doesn't he'll stay near to his kids in the USA.

I think he'd want to return and do charity work like today. A half in type thing but wouldn't leave his kids.

A pretty lonely life for him in the USA but one I think he'll stick with.

I agree with you. As much as I think they have split. The kids will reside in the uk as will harry. Whilst spending time in the uk.

it does feel like operation rehabilitate Harry is on, but I’m surprised Megan is missing. So possibly she’s going to appear with a bang doing something to reinvent herself.

i also wonder about aro, it has to be dead, as she can’t use the words American riviera, well she can but with no trademark it would be ripped off in seconds.

smilesy · 01/10/2024 08:31

I've always cringed for those children, whether the marriage survives or not. I cannot see how they will grow up with any kind of relaxed, 'normal' family dynamic - only having Doria as extended family, and presumably soon beginning to ask 'Mommy and Daddy - why haven't I got a Grandpa?' or similar. OK - one of their Grandpas is a KIng, but that's weird enough without all the bad feeling between the Sussexes and the RF

For me, what is more strange is that they have always very publicly said how much they tell their children about their grandmother Diana. I wonder in what context? Do they explain that she was married to the man who is now King Charles? That in fact the king is their grandfather? And that their uncle will one day be king? Why do they have lots of photos of and talk about a dead grandparent and seemingly little or no contact with living ones?

SmileyHappyPeopleInTheSun · 01/10/2024 08:32

Alectoishome · 01/10/2024 07:41

Surely they have duel nationality, the children? Archie at least must be a British citizen, he was born in the UK.

They'll have duel citizenship or can claim it because their father is a British citizen.

Unlike USA being born in UK doesn't convey automatic citizen rights been that way I think since 1983. British citizenship is usually passed down one generation - so may have some implication for Lilibeth's children not being born in UK being able to claim citizenship - not sure.

I am also seeing a lot of positive PR spin for Harry - and a lot of negative for Meghan - she's the block against reconciliation apparently - does sound like testing water for Harry to come back but given what he's written and acted I don't think there huge public enthusiasm.

I think with old laws KC can technically take custody of the GC but really can't see him doing that at all - nor do I think however demonised Meghan is that it would fly publicly.

Lifestooshort71 · 01/10/2024 08:41

Baital · 01/10/2024 08:00

If they divorce - if, and hopefully they remain happily married - she could only go after what is there.

I do wonder how much is left. And if they are outspending their income that amount goes down all the time.

I agree. The late Queen purportedly paid Andrew's financial settlement but H will find no support from William on this one! Charles, if he is still King? Possibly, just to free H so he can 'come home' and to see the children occasionally.

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