Harry’s anxiety in NY

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What to make of the fact that he appeared without Meghan and looked quite anxious and stressed?

Yes it really is.

Something has gone awry. I wonder if the rumours that he wanted to go and live in Africa were true. Maybe he would have been more effective there.

Working quietly, learning, building up a reputation worth having in the very crowded charity sector takes time and it's low profile. For some reason he needs a high profile, hence the sitting on panels where he doesn't have much expertise to contribute.

Invictus and Sentebele both stem from the days he had access to top class above. He needs that now.

Let's not forget MM was also happy to implicate the AoC in her lie that "they were married 3 days before" as well as lying in court. I think it could be agreed that her credibility is well and truly shot.

I think this thread should be on classics comparing "lies of FC and the tooth fairy" as equivalent to lying under oath/committing perjury I'm incredulous still given me an amusing start to my day😂

I'm enjoying the words 'tearfully revealed on Oprah'. Are you a journalist? You don't need to answer that. It's just that I noticed years ago that a local journalist didn't 'tell', but 'revealed', as they do.

(Pensioner revealed that he paid his electricity bill. Oooer.)

I don't think she set out to tell a downright lie there. I think she was/maybe is, living in a sort of fairyland where she didn't think about anyone else, let alone the Archbishop of Canterbury. I expect he had been quite pleasant to her.
Was it a politician who said 'economical with the truth'?

Re a few posts ago, nice to read about Harry's work in Sentebale.

Harry himself said he would like to live in Africa . Imagined his DC running around barefoot .
Can’t remember where he said it but I remember it .
There was no way MM would live in Africa !!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11399755/amp/Prince-Harry-wanted-bring-son-Archie-Africa-friend-Dame-Jane-Goodall-reveals.html

The story about the lipgloss makes me really cross. Pregnant women need to take care to avoid other people's saliva because of the risk of a CMV infection, which is a widespread virus that can cause problems such as hearing loss for the baby. They are advised not to do things like sharing spoons with their toddlers to avoid sharing an infection (non-pregnant people with CMV are either symptomless or feel like they have a slight cold). In my last pregnancy my preschooler sneezed all over my lovely plate of lasagne just as I was about to dig in, so I had to give it to my husband and eat a cheese sandwich instead. Sad times.

Kate, in her third pregnancy in 2018, would have known that she should not be sharing lipgloss. Meghan, childless in 2018, probably didn't know at the time why Kate didn't want to share her lipgloss. But she's had two children now, assuming she had normal antenatal care she will now understand the reasons why. Yet she lets this nonsense story continue.

In my entire life, I've shared emergency lipstick with precisely 2 people, my mother and my teenage best friend and even then there was a good swipe of the stick with a tissue before and after. Thanks @Sparae for the very excellent points about risk in pregnancy especially.

I was always impressed by Harry's work with Sentebale and have no doubt that his efforts were genuine. He always looked engaged and at ease (as he did in many informal settings when meeting people, TBF) and it made him extremely popular. He isn't a natural "formal" public speaker (this is not a character flaw) and it is a shame he seems to be struggling to find a role that uses his strengths in the "new life".

I think there's a set of rules somewhere and one of them is; If you can't defend Meghan, then go through all posts and pick out an ambiguous line, and kick the arse out of it in an attempt to make the thread about something else.

It was quite amusing though, in a desperate sort of way.

Pigeon chess

Agree its an attempt to suck the oxygen/energy out of the original debate and derail the thread.

Dont feed the pigeons.....

The whole Africa discussion made me reread Robert Frost's " The Road Not Taken":

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44272/the-road-not-taken

ustasking111 · Today 01:20
A friend spends a couple of months most years in Sentebale most years teaching. She said Harry did a lot there, no journalists around just pupils of all ages, children and adults who wanted to learn.
He was hands on, listened to the problems, helping with solutions.
Something has gone very awry if he's not still this person.

Interesting - do you know when this was exactly? I haven't heard of him doing it since meeting Meghan - but please correct me if I'm wrong.

No you're not wrong as his relationship waxed his involvement waned. Which is why I'm so glad to see him striking out solo again.

The last Sentabale event Harry did was that charity polo match in Florida (with Netflix camera crown tow), where Meghan wouldn't let the director of Sentabale stand next to Harry for a photo, and rudely pointed to where she should stand, such that she had to duck under arms holding the trophy; then elbowed Harry out of the picture so she could be photographed hugging another player.

For me the religious ceremony is when I am married not the UK legal part and if anyone asked me thats what i would say. I don't think she is wrong to say for her thats when she felt she had got married. Other people might say well no you were just becuae it wasn't legal but thats their filter and perspective on what they believe married means. So for them she is lying for others it's not.

Of course she was lying @Spectre8 ! The Archbishop of Canterbury had to come out and say no . And then to dismissively refer to the wedding as a spectacle was so disrespectful to the RF and taxpayers .
Is there anything that Meghan does that you disapprove of ??

What I'm getting at is...

I'm no fan of Harry but I do believe that he genuinely cares about some of his causes (IG, obviously, and Sentebale). I can believe what the pp said about him working for them quietly, without press coverage or filming.

But I cannot believe that Meghan would ever do anything for anyone else unless there was a camera and a mic. That's what I guess might have happened here.

Harry: Let's go to Africa and do some quiet work for Sentabale together, my own sweet love.

Meghan: What? You mean with ordinary people? No cameras, no press reports, no speech opportunities? No wardrobe allowance? No chance, loser!

But please prove me wrong,

I wasn't defending Meghan i was simply asking the person who made the comment about lying as i found that comment interesting enough to want to ask that mumsnetter more. But as per usual others like yourself think it's okay to pile onto a person who doesn't come on here and say what is acceptable to you all and toe the line, mock them, take the piss out them and act like bullies.

Do you feel more superior with your comment like your somehow better than me and that by coming here and criticising and judging her it makes you better than someone who doesn't. That those who choose not to write negatively are somehow a supporter of the person when truth is I just don't want to come here to write negative things it isn't why I come on here. Perhaps people who don't support her can also refrain from wanting to write negatively about her because there is plenty of it already

Spectre8
That those who choose not to write negatively are somehow a supporter of the person when truth is I just don't want to come here to write negative things it isn't why I come on here.

There's no virtue in 'not writing negative things' about someone whose behaviour has been so outrageous for so long. It would be a dereliction of our civic duty not to put her straight!!

I can't really because where my friend taught in
Sentebale really was wild camping style. Although Harry used his influence so that brieze block buildings were erected. Paper, pencils, blackboards, text books were brought in.

Also footwear..

In any case she was incredibly crass to have implied that it was an actual ceremony that rendered the whole hugely expensive shebang unnecessary and a drain on the public purse. She sneered that it wasn’t her choice and therefore came across as incredibly ungrateful and entitled. Not to mention the embarrassment she caused the Archbishop.