Harry’s anxiety in NY

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What to make of the fact that he appeared without Meghan and looked quite anxious and stressed?

He may once have been popular in Britain but the hideous selling his family secrets for money has scuppered his return, in my opinion. No one would want to say or do anything in his presence for fear of being attacked in his next outburst/book/film/whatever.
I wouldn’t trust him an inch

Quite

He looks extremely uncomfortable, but what really stands out is that he has absolutely nothing intelligent or meaningful to say. It’s really quite embarrassing.

I very much hope that Harry and Meghan don’t separate. It would be awful for everyone concerned, especially the children.

I want them to be happy and stay in the US. However, I also want them to stop bullying their staff and stop being so hypocritical.

Harry isn’t anxious. He’s unprepared for many of his appearances so he isn’t coming across as well as he could, and it’s being reported that people have commented that he smells of alcohol and pot so is obviously just jaded from his partying and self medicating.

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You didn't understand my post because we were discussing delivering speeches on a stage and not general charity involvement. I agree he was aligned with many charities but I don't recall him being put on the spot often - and no, I dont want to google, thank you as I'm not into point scoring.

He was good once upon a time and hugely popular. What we saw, however, was a different Harry entirely. He called young women ‘you guys’ several times and displayed a lot of nervous body language. He didn’t do a good job, seeming totally ill prepared. Does he actually have anyone writing his speeches anymore?

Meghans clearly the speech writer.

It will be another interesting day for PH today as he is on a panel first thing this morning with veteran US presenter Katie Couric who in her 2021 memoir stated that Harry stunk of cigarettes and alcohol, with it "oozing from every pore" when she interviewed him when he was 27.

The Sr comms person (Kettler?) who resigned in Aug after 3 months was supposedly working soley for PH - I wonder who has stepped in to manage PH comms now?

". He called young women ‘you guys’ several times and displayed a lot of nervous body language"

Harry in his current and probably future self will never be taken as a serious speaker - he is the link speaker, the presenter and the introducer and he can't even do that properly. He babbles meaningless words. He can't address people properly. He can't stand up for others on the stage. He's boring. He's only there because of his title.

That must be a first. The word "clearly" used in a sentence that also contains the words "Meghan(s)" and "speech writer".

How would anyone know this?? They aren’t going to do it in front of staff presumably, especially in the evening.

If he is nervous I expect the negative PR is part of that as its reported they read it - they have ex and current staff talking to reporters about how unhappy they are not going to help anybodies confidence.

Plus he had Meghan there last few years so may feel odd to be alone and with so much bad PR and so much not going well it will add pressure to anything they do from now on.

From his own mouth his mental health and drug usage are past and likely current issues on top of all that.

PP mention lack of preparation could also be an issue - lack of good staff round him and from some comments from industry people who worked with him and his own words in his book perhaps a lack of internal work ethic/drive - so turns up and wings it.

I think one off looking nervous before public speaking not really a big deal - and there is only so much that can be read into it.

PH does it online his own pockets and for personal gain. The RF so this as their job
On behalf of the country, like it or not we have a monarchy, H&M decided it wasn't for them to do with without personal gain, so left, we're told no you can't use the monarchy to bankroll themselves personally, and have all but tried to do that ... failing badly, but they also sold lies and private information to gain money

You can’t have a big argument without staff overhearing and remember that both current and ex-staff helped with the Hollywood Reporter story about the Sussexes.

@DutifulDaughterWifeMother .... and the prize to the most toxic megalomaniacs ...... joint platinum award goes to PH MM

Always struck me as a bit of a Mean Girl.

Nothing more mean girl than Meghan’s behaviour towards her staff and towards Catherine.

Catherine hasn’t done anything wrong except be reluctant to pass her lip gloss over. Oh and try to recover from cancer while supporters of Meghan spread hate, disinformation and conspiracy theories about her all over social media platforms. Some posters have short memories when it suits!

Always struck me as a bit of a Mean Girl.

Oh, are there multiple allegations, over a period of years, from both sides of the Atlantic about Kate's bullying mistreatment of her staff?

Didn't think so.

That applies to the entire RF as far as I am concerned!

Good for you, I'm not a fan either!

Do you feel that way about Olympic medalists Anne and Zara ?

The very fact that the lip gloss story was included is an indication that there aren't any mean girl stories. If there were Harry would have put them in the book, or Meghan would have talked about them on Oprah. Even in Meghan's version Catherine come out well from the infamous crying story, because she came round with flowers afterwards to apologise for her part.

They are both extremely talented riders, Princess Anne was at the very top of her sport, and Zara is returning to her successful career having had dc.

However, part of success in eventing comes with finding the right horses and you can’t tell me that having a very healthy cheque book, access to the best trainers, your own country estate with stables and staff, is exactly a hindrance to medal winning! And that’s before you count up the perks on the side like being sponsored by Range Rover.

Ask any ordinary eventer and they will tell you about many equally talented riders who faltered when they had to sell their five year old home produced horse with the most potential in order to keep their yard open, or they couldn’t make the leap from full time job to becoming professional because they couldn’t plug the gap financially. Or they couldn’t juggle motherhood and professional eventing bc their parents aren’t horsey and they couldn’t afford stable staff.

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No idea about the racism but I can imagine Kate PA asking about the colour of the baby. Always struck me as a bit of a Mean Girl.

Oh wow! That's taking victim-blaming to the next level.

It's not Kate who has a crowd of ex-employees lining up to give evidence against her. Open your eyes and ears.

You think Kate is a mean girl? On whose say-so? Oh, yes - Meghan's. After all, Meghan isn't in the least bit jealous of her, is she?

I'm still recovering from him miming 'roof' with his hands while saying the words out loud, with M staring at him and attempting not to malfunction. Priceless.

I am old enough to remember an article in Vanity Fair about Prince Philip bullying Charles;

”In his biography of Prince Charles, Dimbleby noted that Charles was often “cowed” by his father’s brusquely critical personality. “Friends who spoke with Charles’s permission described the duke’s ‘belittling’ and even ‘bullying’ his son,” Vanity Fair writes.”

We’ve all seen the clip of Prince Philip brusquely telling a photographer to “just fucking take the photograph”, Charles’s petulance over a leaky pen, and the late Queen being huffy with a portrait photographer. Princess Anne was in court for her dog attacking two children and yet these incidences are seen as quite ok, or they are framed as humorous or understandable in the circumstances and because they are royal, it‘s not seen as rude or entitled behaviour.

I can imagine Meghan coming straight from California and questioning pomposity and petty traditions and that coming across as rude and even bullying, and it definitely not being deemed ok, because she was wasn’t royal, or white, or even British, and she was about to be a royal wife and as such she was expected to remain smiling and subservient!

Honesty, why is one lot automatically better than the other?

And your justification of her bullying staff in LA is….? Because it can’t be a lost in translation issue.
Telling someone to take the bloody photograph is rude and impatient. As are the majority of the incidents you have posted about above. It’s not ok but it’s not bullying. It’s not daily harassment and humiliation. It’s not relentlessly bullying staff, as these people have been reporting about Meghan. So no. It’s not on the same level at all. You are just making yourself look like an apologist for trying to justify such horrible behaviour. We’re not talking one or two people here. We’re not talking about one off incidents. Do better.