Harry’s anxiety in NY

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What to make of the fact that he appeared without Meghan and looked quite anxious and stressed?

How convenient for you, she is still a member of the British Royal Family and holds and uses British titles as do her children, no, the truth is no one saw through her lies, her manipulation, her bullying at the beginning but now it’s out there for the world to see, they must feel fools now.

I am not at all sure about that @BigWillyLittleTodger .

Some see it your way.

Others may see it my way.

Most don't care.

But one thing is sure; it would be entirely inappropriate for those British politicians to concentrate on two citzens who moved away a number of years ago to live in California.

We have rather a lot to do here no?

I don't think they stopped talking about it because they had an epiphany about character traits. Their point was about inappropriate newspaper behaviour, regardless of the purity of the individual in question.

Diana didn't threaten to throw herself down the stairs, she DiD throw herself down the stairs.

It was in the news that she had fallen but was all right, but that they had had to call in a Doctor to check that her unborn child was OK.

It's a shame those same politicians didn't say anything when Kate was (and still is in certain circles) at the end of awful abuse and bullying, not just from random online but from media types, the press, talk show hosts, and those who have been publically thanked by the Sussexes for their support.

I wonder why? Perhaps because she's white? Do the politicians think she wouldn't have been hurt by the villification because of her skin colour? Bit weird - I would have thought, being a group of WOMEN politicians, they may have commented on the hate and misogyny directed towards Kate.

And yet Harry didn't believe his wife enough to get the correct care she needed immediately and even afterwards he didn't appear to get her any help at all. always someone else's fault of the manchild that is Harry

I’m sure Meghan could have picked up the phone and found a therapist herself . She didn’t need to ask the Palace for help or Harry. How many of us ask our partners to find a therapist for us? She’s a worldly wise woman. She loves to paint herself as a victim but she is anything but.

Or, of course, simply speak to one of the medical team she had chosen for her care during pregnancy

Oprah asked him why he didn’t get her help, and he literally said because he was ‘ashamed’.

This is a man who led the ‘heads together’ campaign with William.

Mental health advocate he is not.

Fucking embarrassing, and they’ve git the nerve to blame the palace/William/Kate for not getting her help.

Such as the Consultant Obstetrician she had on speed dial.

The mother of one of Megan's old school friends said that Meghan used to come round and watch Diana's wedding to Charles which the mother had on video tape. They watched it many times and Meghan was so taken with it that the Mother lent her a book/biography she had on Diana's life. This is when she was still in her teens.

It can be said now because she’s losing (or lost) her power. I never pretended to believe her because I knew it was BS from the off but people were losing their jobs over it at the time. To see her power failing is very sweet to me indeed. Loathesome woman exploiting experiences she’s never had. My son’s depression was the scariest thing I ever had to see and no, I wouldn’t be smiling and grinning when retelling it.

Even just typing it makes my eyes prickle and tearful.

The word 'depression' is often used quite loosely. I think it's possible to feel very got down by circumstances and need to off-load a bit and have a good cry and then feel better and buck yourself up, if possible with someone who makes you laugh about the situation, and carry on.
There is a different place, where people are diagnosed with clinical depression, if that is the right word, which, in my experience, is much darker and bleaker.

Do female politicians in the US defend her ?
The shocking chimpanzee remark was made by an idiot presenter who was then sacked. The vast majority of people rightly condemned him .

I don't believe she was ever suicidal. It just sounds like a made up story that doesn't make sense.

Harry obviously didn't believe it was a serious comment at the time either. Maybe he put it down to nerves / stage fright.
He could easily have got someone to sat with her until he went to the function.

Later saying he was "embarrassed", well what else is he going to come out with, "I didn't believe the drama queen?" 🤔

That will come later when they split and he paints her as emotionally unstable

@BunnyLake

I agree with all you say, although I haven't experienced a situation as bad as that you describe - my daughter is bi-polar and we've had some difficult episodes. Yes, I too admit to wanting Meghan to disappear from the public eye - to see her triumphant after her scheming and cruelty is really hard to take. Please note, Meghan apologists: I don't say anything more vengeful than that. I just want her to fade into obscurity and not to have to see her 'duper's delight' grin all over the place!

The whole 'suicide ideation' story is full of holes, as pps have pointed out. And frankly, it's the people who don't talk about suicide who I'd worry about. I wonder if even Meghan regrets the massive, global drama and scandal she's made about this now it's come under scrutiny? She had so, so many avenues through which to get help if she really needed it, but seemingly chose not to explore any of them.

I don't know if anyone watched that pathetic 'documentary' on C5 last night, where endless psychologists (clinical psychs with plenty of letters after their names) all took Meghan's protestations totally at face value - not just the above, but pretty much all her complaints since marrying Harry. Fgs! How terrifying that professional psychiatrists can't see through this scheming, manipulative woman - I wouldn't trust them an inch. Yes, I know there are slander/libel laws - but really - it was a case of 'Poor Meghan said she was being bullied - so it must be true'. (It had clearly been made long before the recent revelations about Meghan's true character, but it wasn't labelled as a repeat - weird!) It looked very silly in the light of the last couple of weeks.

He's a man with severe mental health problems. What do you expect.

I didn’t believe her either, but doubting her story was not to be tolerated and people were cancelled if they so much as raised an eyebrow.

The Human Resources stuff was utterly bizarre. I can only imagine that they got involved as Meghan wanted to check into an eye-wateringly expensive retreat in Aspen and it was deemed not a good look.

I think she went to them deliberately, knowing they couldn’t do anything. She could have on record that she went because she was so inexperienced and innocent about royal protocols etc. It can be proof she ‘tried’ to do something while at the same time not having to prove or explain her story to experts.

That sounds entirely plausible! I can just see it...😯

And the heartless brutes said no.

💗 💐 sorry to read about your son’s depression. I agree with you and completely empathise. Hope your son is having better days now.

And there was me thinking she was just thick not understanding HR was for Staff not the RF themselves.

But what you've said makes perfect sense. My jaw has his the floor.

May be there are multiple cases/clips but when I've seen the clips of them leaving the garden party doesn't look planned and doesn't look like it's Harry and Meghan idea - they are sort of swept out - told bye by Charles and Camilla and swept out they look a bit stunned.

My own mother can do that to you - and if you don't realise you go from settled with cup of tea to to in car down to the station without your feet touching the ground. All you can say is something happened and they were swiftly managed away from the event.

Rumours say she was overheard saying she was board or that he was off and feared to be on something - I think her being fed up became the story - as it chimes with some other events and her behavior.

From Newsweek, I didn't realise the African Parks event was closed to the media, such hypocrites.

https://www.newsweek.com/prince-harry-cowardly-controversial-project-african-parks-podcast-1959150

A new episode of Newsweek's The Royal Report podcast has heard that the decision to keep an event connected with one of Prince Harry's most controversial projects closed to the media in New York this month has been labeled "outrageous," as the prince faced calls earlier in the year to sever his relationship with the organization.

Chief royal correspondent Jack Royston told Royal Report listeners that the decision to keep the event behind closed doors and make no public statement addressing the controversy on the agenda made the engagement as a whole an uncomfortable one for Harry to be connected with.

"I think that is slightly outrageous, to be honest," he said. "Because Prince Harry has faced calls to resign from the board of directors, and he has resisted those calls..

This

Apparently she was overheard saying to Harry she had had enough and wanted to leave. Whether this is true or not I don’t know.